FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[repete]

Carleton beat Olaf.....  I quit. 

on a side note... the hot carls forgot to point the eagle towards carleton after turning it.  its still pointing at St. Olaf.  You're killin me Carleton.

I'm pretty sure I saw the Eagle get turned to point directly at Carleton after the game and it looked like someone from the D3football crew (Pat?) was there to witness this as well http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=2265&page=9.  Always with the inferiority complex, you guys kill me.

I watched some of the Carls-Oles on the Web while listen to the SJU disaster.

Good video feed from STO and CC was pretty impressive, especially 1st half.

[chewey]

Listening to that game on the radio was down right painful.  WTF?? Even during the 1997 season, the offense did not look that bad, even against Augsburg.  Could it be that from top to bottom SJU is filled with mid-level talent sausages?  

We have several games left and we are out of the play off hunt regardless of the math.  Anyone who thinks this team will even make the playoffs is a Pollyanna.   I say:

1.  Defense stays intact as they, at least, have played well;
2.  Replace the whole inept unit charitably denoted "the offensive line" with freshmen and sophs and other juniors who will have more of a desire to play and who may have more talent.  With no line, there is no passing game and no running game and we have what we have now.  
3.  Replace the QB (yet again) with a freshman or soph (not Boyle) and see what happens.  
4.  Play Mark Waring.  With a real line, perhaps he could do really great things.  He's as fast as the wind.

Regardless of how much time the current guys have in, we need to find talent and we need to find who wants to step up and play.  If we're not going to be successful this year, we need to find the right mix by getting others playing time so that we're successful  next year.  With 189 (or whatever it is) players out languishing on the sidelines, there has to be much more talent than what is on the field now, especially with the offensive line.  This is pretty much what they did in 1997 when Chris Moore, Linneman, Kirshner and others got a lot of playing time.

[chewey]

Augsburg and Carleton are at the top of the conference??  Hell hath frozen over.  I guess the MIAC champ will get the monkey stomp this year just like in 1997 when UW-LAX pummeled the Cobbs at the FargoDome

[snoop dawg]

I see the johnnie fans talking about the lack of offense but when I looked at the stats, they gained 359 yds (to BU's 164) and ran 85 plays (to Bethels 62).  On paper that doesn't look so bad.  I didn't have a chance to listen to any of the game, why are the stats so misleading?

[DustySJU]

I see the johnnie fans talking about the lack of offense but when I looked at the stats, they gained 359 yds (to BU's 164) and ran 85 plays (to Bethels 62).  On paper that doesn't look so bad.  I didn't have a chance to listen to any of the game, why are the stats so misleading?

We forgot to score!   

[chewey]

Turnovers and the lack of the ability to put the ball in the end zone.  Going from 20 to 20 is all well and good only as long as the ball gets in the end zone.   Arguing "stats" and "on paper" are probably going to be the argument of a lot of us SJU fans this year, including me.  I feel even more of an affinity to Linfield than before.  That's another stellar and storied and redoubtable program that has hit the skids recently.   It's too bad.  

[stanbob]

I see the johnnie fans talking about the lack of offense but when I looked at the stats, they gained 359 yds (to BU's 164) and ran 85 plays (to Bethels 62).  On paper that doesn't look so bad.  I didn't have a chance to listen to any of the game, why are the stats so misleading?

Missing on 4 of 5 4th down conversions, one interception led directly to a Bethel TD and another was picked off in the endzone.  When we finally managed a TD (off a bad snap on a Bethel punt) there was a bad snap on the 2 point conversion which would have made it a three point game and could have led to a tieing field goal as SJU was stopped on the two to end the game.  Whew, now I have a headache and am ready for a beer.   

[DustySJU]

Turnovers and the lack of the ability to put the ball in the end zone.  Going from 20 to 20 is all well and good only as long as the ball gets in the end zone.   Arguing "stats" and "on paper" are probably going to be the argument of a lot of us SJU fans this year, including me.  I feel even more of an affinity to Linfield than before.  That's another stellar and storied and redoubtable program that has hit the skids recently.   It's too bad.  

AK-11 had his own problems in the red zone however we had so many more of them(opportunities) that the odds were always in our favor.

We will rise to one day rule again....

[snoop dawg]

I know stats can be misleading, and those certainly are.  Not hearing the game, I asked the question.    It is very frustrating for a team to get into the red zone time and time again and walk away with no points.

Wow, sounds like a rough outing for the offense from stanbob's description.  

[tmerton]

The Johnnie "O" did not at any point look like it was in charge of the game.  There is still some stuff there that needs to be worked out.  Whether it will be worked out this season remains to be seen.

[AO]

Why is it that Johnnie fans blame their players when they lose?  I thought SJU won with a series of "nos" and not with superior talent recruitment?   This was probably the first year of the last 3 where Bethel did not have the edge in talent on paper after losing wetzell/carr and others.  Bethel's D held up when it needed to while the O ran the ball well enough for a couple of scores.  get used to it.

I was in St. Peter watching the Tommies pull out a good win for their program.  The home crowd was pretty lifeless as the gusties had not scored in 6 consecutive quarters of homecoming football, but becker and arlt made it interesting in the end.  A little nicer day to watch football than I remember last year's SJU-Bethel tilt was.

..on a side note, in a previous note I mentioned Macalester should consider joining the UMAC in football..after watching the 2nd half of the Northwestern beatdown of the scots, I noticed that MAC will play all of the UMAC members in 08, including new program St. Scholastica (who had 4,000 in attendance up in duluth on saturday).   It looks like they're also going to be apart of the UMAC's dome-day games this year.

[stanbob]

Why is it that Johnnie fans blame their players when they lose?  I thought SJU won with a series of "nos" and not with superior talent recruitment?   This was probably the first year of the last 3 where Bethel did not have the edge in talent on paper after losing wetzell/carr and others.  Bethel's D held up when it needed to while the O ran the ball well enough for a couple of scores.  get used to it.

Winning with NO offense doesn't cut it though.

[Pat Coleman]

Carleton beat Olaf.....  I quit. 

on a side note... the hot carls forgot to point the eagle towards carleton after turning it.  its still pointing at St. Olaf.  You're killin me Carleton.

I saw the eagle pointed appropriately as well. On a side note, after the end of the current losing streak the knights only trail by 4 in the all time series.

As did I. Congrats to Carleton. I'll have a feature story on this later in the week.

I wonder if someone at Olaf couldn't stand that the eagle was moved and climbed up to turn it back later ...

[janesvilleflash]

College students would never do a thing like that.

[CCKnight]

That would have been my guess as well.