FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Lone Auggie Backer]

Obviously I have a biased opinion, but the refs called the game as well as they could. LAB didn't mention the TD that Augsburg scored that very well could have been a fumble before their player crossed the goal line.  But overall they called a fair game, and Augsburg got away with some calls.

Everyone knows Augsburg is a dirty team, they like to talk a lot of junk and (very generally) act like jerk offs, as evidenced by their players getting on this form earlier in the week and talking crap, who does that while still actually playing? . If the refs did favor Carleton, it should be expected. Why wouldn't they favor the team with more class? Besides, as maizeandblue noted, Carleton has never gotten any love from refs in the past (and why would they when our program used to be one of the worst in all of D3), so if anything, it was finally karma coming full circle.

We know LAB is disheartened they let the game slip away, but they made the mistakes, Carleton made the plays.  

Carleton's O looked very very good, without Frank. Henfling played incredibly. The frosh running back is a stud, and they got other backs that are solid. Their D did not play as bad as the yardage indicated, they made a lot of plays to bat balls away and get sacks when they needed. Honestly, I never thought I would see this day, at least not so soon.

Carleton is the real deal, Ramler is the real deal. Lots of recruits there today, I can only see this continuing for Carleto., I expect Carleton will be able to start pulling players away from the Ivys and other higher division intense academic institutions in the coming years.

Not only a great day to be a Knight, but a great year. Today was Blissful.

You're an idiot. You want to talk about not mentioning TD's that weren't. Watch the game film of the TD at the end of half. I didn't mention it in my first posts because WE should have never let the play get that close. The ball never crossed the goal line. Pretty simple. But I didn't mention it because WE should have not let the play even get that close.

Your second paragraph would have merit if not for receivers #80 and #1 hitting/cutting Royce well after the whistle on numerous occasions. You are obviously right. The was just brotherly joking. Nothing cheap about that. We were the only cheap shots on the field today! Good call jackass!

If you were not aware, you could read all of my posts. The first one describing today's game gave tons of credit to the Knights. However, the number of terrible calls in key situations didn't help us at all. Am I asking the officials to HELP us. No, you MUST be an idiot! I'm just trying to figure out how you can rationalize the 12/3 differential. And, no, your linemen held just as much, #80 and #1 continued to hit well after the whistle, so, there's your cheap-dirty play for ya!

Get a clue. Enjoy your 4th post reject!

[Lone Auggie Backer]

I'm amazed, as the Carleton coaches clearly were at the time, that there is any dispute over the onside kick. The ball was given to the Knights at about the 44, where they recovered it. 44-30 = 14 (more than the requisite 10 yards). It may have been touched slightly before the 44, but definitely past the 40.

The facemask penalty was visible from the Carleton side of the field. You can call me a liar, but I saw it. Maybe I can prove to you that I saw it by saying I think the play was unfortunate in that it illustrated the silliness of the new facemask rules in college football. The penalty was one that probably would have fallen under the old 5-yard rule, which no longer exists and would not have resulted in a first down for Carleton. Unfortunately for college football that is the rule, but you have to play with it.

Auggie fans, I understand that you're upset that your masterful passing offense was undermined by a couple big special teams plays, but don't degrade Carleton's all-around effort by blaming officiating. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Carleton went to the back page at the right time and got it done today.

I look forward to you guys getting screwed and just saying, "Awe shucks! We should have tried harder, the refs can't have that much impact!"

You too, are a moron!  Playing two teams at once is rather difficult!

[chewey]

Wow, with 2 conference losses I did not think SJU had a chance at winning the conference.  Now, I do.  They had better have their helmets strapped on tight for UST. With the way the MIAC is this year and the lack of respect it gets, we're only getting one team in the Playoffs this year boys. 

Come on chewy, the MIAC is one of the best conference in the West Region.  The WIAC might have you beat.  You want to talk about lack of respect.  Come talk to the IIAC. 
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I agree the IIAC has gotten hosed too.  After last year's arse-kicking of SJU by CEntral, I think things will be different now.  There have been some very, very good teams to come out of there.  I think that 2000 Dutch defensive front five was the best I have seen up to now, even.  With the MIAC, it has usually been SJU beating up on everyone else and that is why the MIAC has been penned as "easy." SJU always did well in the Post-season, so the MIAC had to have been better than it was given credit for.  Central, Wartburg, Coe, Simpson, etc have all been pretty good.

[Rugman]

I'm amazed, as the Carleton coaches clearly were at the time, that there is any dispute over the onside kick. The ball was given to the Knights at about the 44, where they recovered it. 44-30 = 14 (more than the requisite 10 yards). It may have been touched slightly before the 44, but definitely past the 40.

The facemask penalty was visible from the Carleton side of the field. You can call me a liar, but I saw it. Maybe I can prove to you that I saw it by saying I think the play was unfortunate in that it illustrated the silliness of the new facemask rules in college football. The penalty was one that probably would have fallen under the old 5-yard rule, which no longer exists and would not have resulted in a first down for Carleton. Unfortunately for college football that is the rule, but you have to play with it.

Auggie fans, I understand that you're upset that your masterful passing offense was undermined by a couple big special teams plays, but don't degrade Carleton's all-around effort by blaming officiating. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Carleton went to the back page at the right time and got it done today.

I look forward to you guys getting screwed and just saying, "Awe shucks! We should have tried harder, the refs can't have that much impact!"

You too, are a moron!  Playing two teams at once is rather difficult!

LAB. Speaking (unauthorized) for all Johnnie Fans, now you know what all "consistently good" teams have to deal with.  Half of your losses are to the officials.  Half of the other half are your coaches fault.   Our condolences.  We know exactly how you feel.

[Klopenhiemer]

Wow, with 2 conference losses I did not think SJU had a chance at winning the conference.  Now, I do.  They had better have their helmets strapped on tight for UST. With the way the MIAC is this year and the lack of respect it gets, we're only getting one team in the Playoffs this year boys. 

Come on chewy, the MIAC is one of the best conference in the West Region.  The WIAC might have you beat.  You want to talk about lack of respect.  Come talk to the IIAC. 
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I agree the IIAC has gotten hosed too.  After last year's arse-kicking of SJU by CEntral, I think things will be different now.  There have been some very, very good teams to come out of there.  I think that 2000 Dutch defensive front five was the best I have seen up to now, even.  With the MIAC, it has usually been SJU beating up on everyone else and that is why the MIAC has been penned as "easy." SJU always did well in the Post-season, so the MIAC had to have been better than it was given credit for.  Central, Wartburg, Coe, Simpson, etc have all been pretty good.

Well our non conference record did not do much to help that out.  With Wartburg losing to Augsburg and BV in the conference, it looks like the IIAC will only get one team into the playoffs this season.  Lets hope my Beavers stay on top of the conference and represent the IIAC in the post season. 

Good point about SJU and the perception.  I see what you are saying now.  Same could be said of recent in the IIAC.  Central and Wartburg have been the horses and Coe has shown glimpses of success and contention, with one playoff appearance. 

[CCKnight]

The refs in the MIAC generally suck, they miss calls and make bad calls, sometimes they call more penalties on one team, but I don't think they ever purposely try to favor a team.  All teams seemingly get "Screwed" by the officials at somepoint.  Maybe the Auggies need to get better at concealing their transgressions?  Personally I didn't think the officiating was any worse than any other week in the MIAC, but obviously I'm biased just as others are biased towards Augsburg.  Get over yourselves, and quit being whiny little db's, you lost the game it's over.  If things were as bad as LAB suggests they should be carrying out an investigation into this massive scheme of collusion against Augsburg.  Be careful though once you start following the trail you never know where it will lead, probably all the way to the white house, this sounds like something Cheney would do. 

So, back to things that matter, etc.  What's the story from the UST / CC game?  Is it just a lack of offense from Concordia?  Is UST starting to come around as well?
I'm kind of bummed that the knights play GAC at home next weekend as I do want to check out the still new to me stadium they have in St. Peter now.

Good luck to all and stay classy!

Go Knights!

[CobberFvr]

The Cobbers allowed a long touchdown pass on the Tommie's first play from scrimmage and had to play catch up for the rest of the game.

Cory Johnson had a 44 yard run to put them within field goal range to win the game...but the snap was dropped and the kick was blocked.

Bad weather, bad officiating (for example, UST holds on offense quite regularly...and there were several late hits not called, one of which a helmet to helmet hit on Cory Johnson that was right in front of the head ref).

Other than that, the Cobbs just looked lethargic on both offense on defense. Starting to think their bye week hurt more than it helped coming off those 2 big wins over SJU and Bethel.

[familyguyfaneightyfour]

This post is in response to a post by a carl that LAB quoted that I am too lazy to look up and quote myself.  It was something like "things are going to continue to improve for Carleton... steal recruits from the Ivys... Ramler is amazing... etc. etc."

Here's a reality check-

1.) Ramler is gone as soon as possible.  He is a young guy, and I'm assuming that he has aspirations that are larger than small D3 school in bum*&%^, MN.  He will eventually get a better job, with a better salary at a D2 or D1 school.  And ask the Johnnies who they would rather have as the successor to Gagliardi- Jimmy G or Ramler?  Ok, now where would it be easier to have a successful football program- SJU or Carleton?  point made.

2.) Reasons that recruits from the Ivys will not come to Carleton:
a.) Ivy's are in cities.  not Northfield.  Norhtfield, quite frankly, is kinda boring.
b.) People outside of Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, and the Dakotas have heard of the Ivy's.  The same cannot be said for Carleton.
c.) When paying tuition, you are basically paying to put that college's name on your resume upon graduation.  The Ivy's are the most impressive names to put there. 

The end.

[tmerton]

And ask the Johnnies who they would rather have as the successor to Gagliardi- Jimmy G or TDT? 

This is one vote I think TDT could win. 8)

[Lone Auggie Backer]

I'm amazed, as the Carleton coaches clearly were at the time, that there is any dispute over the onside kick. The ball was given to the Knights at about the 44, where they recovered it. 44-30 = 14 (more than the requisite 10 yards). It may have been touched slightly before the 44, but definitely past the 40.

The facemask penalty was visible from the Carleton side of the field. You can call me a liar, but I saw it. Maybe I can prove to you that I saw it by saying I think the play was unfortunate in that it illustrated the silliness of the new facemask rules in college football. The penalty was one that probably would have fallen under the old 5-yard rule, which no longer exists and would not have resulted in a first down for Carleton. Unfortunately for college football that is the rule, but you have to play with it.

Auggie fans, I understand that you're upset that your masterful passing offense was undermined by a couple big special teams plays, but don't degrade Carleton's all-around effort by blaming officiating. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Carleton went to the back page at the right time and got it done today.

I look forward to you guys getting screwed and just saying, "Awe shucks! We should have tried harder, the refs can't have that much impact!"

You too, are a moron!  Playing two teams at once is rather difficult!

LAB. Speaking (unauthorized) for all Johnnie Fans, now you know what all "consistently good" teams have to deal with.  Half of your losses are to the officials.  Half of the other half are your coaches fault.   Our condolences.  We know exactly how you feel.

wow, was I ANGRY yesterday!

[Willy Wonka]

I'm kind of bummed that the knights play GAC at home next weekend as I do want to check out the still new to me stadium they have in St. Peter now.

While you are certainly missing out on one of the nicer new D3 venues in the nation, I'm fairly certain my Gusties will prove accommodating guests on your potential run to the MIAC title

[Lone Auggie Backer]

The refs in the MIAC generally suck, they miss calls and make bad calls, sometimes they call more penalties on one team, but I don't think they ever purposely try to favor a team.  All teams seemingly get "Screwed" by the officials at somepoint.  Maybe the Auggies need to get better at concealing their transgressions?  Personally I didn't think the officiating was any worse than any other week in the MIAC, but obviously I'm biased just as others are biased towards Augsburg.  Get over yourselves, and quit being whiny little db's, you lost the game it's over.  If things were as bad as LAB suggests they should be carrying out an investigation into this massive scheme of collusion against Augsburg.  Be careful though once you start following the trail you never know where it will lead, probably all the way to the white house, this sounds like something Cheney would do. 

So, back to things that matter, etc.  What's the story from the UST / CC game?  Is it just a lack of offense from Concordia?  Is UST starting to come around as well?
I'm kind of bummed that the knights play GAC at home next weekend as I do want to check out the still new to me stadium they have in St. Peter now.

Good luck to all and stay classy!

Go Knights!

Call me a db when I've given point by point examples of blown calls. Tough guy behind a keyboard I see! Stay classy, huh? Guess calling others a db is classy too. nice job! Way to back up your own point. Glad to see you follow the rules you advise others to follow. Typical of a Knight!

[Lone Auggie Backer]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=281012016



http://www.boston.com/sports/articles/2008/09/16/league_holding_hochuli_accountable_for_blown_call/


Guess officiating can't have an impact on a game?

[OzJohnnie]

I think there may be a grudge of significant deepness developing here.  Good to see.  We can never have too many grudges to fire up the boards during the week.

[TC]

Looks like it's time to shut down shop at Auggie Bandwagon Headquarters--it was a good run.




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