FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[BoBo]

I've decided that none of the MIAC teams are very good this year.

I think it's quite the opposite.  We are all so good and very even.  Much like the WIAC we are just beating each other up so bad and now won't get a second team in the playoffs because of it.  It's just not fair.  We should get two or three AQ's this year and every year from now on out.  THE REAL MIAC HAS ARRIVED!


 

Has the cream risen to the top or sunk to the bottom?  I think it's a combination of the two but the fact is that no team has demonstrated any real consistency.  I know that I'm biased but I think it is a year where there is no dominant team (SJU) and everyone else is pretty good.  I really don't think the MIAC deserves more than 1 team in the post season and I don't think our one team will do much in the second season.

Eau Claire (now with 2 loses with Whitewater coming up again in a couple weeks) losing to River Falls today in the WIAC is a shot in the arm to the 2nd place MIAC or IIAC team.

[stanbob]

I've decided that none of the MIAC teams are very good this year.

I think it's quite the opposite.  We are all so good and very even.  Much like the WIAC we are just beating each other up so bad and now won't get a second team in the playoffs because of it.  It's just not fair.  We should get two or three AQ's this year and every year from now on out.  THE REAL MIAC HAS ARRIVED!


 

Has the cream risen to the top or sunk to the bottom?  I think it's a combination of the two but the fact is that no team has demonstrated any real consistency.  I know that I'm biased but I think it is a year where there is no dominant team (SJU) and everyone else is pretty good.  I really don't think the MIAC deserves more than 1 team in the post season and I don't think our one team will do much in the second season.

Eau Claire (now with 2 loses with Whitewater coming up again in a couple weeks) losing to River Falls today in the WIAC is a shot in the arm to the 2nd place MIAC or IIAC team.

Don't forget the much feared and respected UMAC conference.   

[repete]

Wow. Looks like what everyone on the radio was saying, Tommies were indeed screwed.

As tough as it is to give USTD credit, their paper did a nice video recap.

http://www.stthomas.edu/aquin/081017USTSJUFB/index.html

[sfury]

Wow. Looks like what everyone on the radio was saying, Tommies were indeed screwed.

As tough as it is to give USTD credit, their paper did a nice video recap.

http://www.stthomas.edu/aquin/081017USTSJUFB/index.html

I've gotta say, nice job Tommie staff on that report. And yeah, it definitely looked like he scored. Anyone remember what happened in the 1994 Johnnie-Tommie game? Didn't that end in really controversial fashion as well; maybe a Johnnie player stepped out of bounds but it wasn't called and they scored on the play? I think Ramler had just taken over as QB.

[OzJohnnie]

Wow. Looks like what everyone on the radio was saying, Tommies were indeed screwed.

As tough as it is to give USTD credit, their paper did a nice video recap.

http://www.stthomas.edu/aquin/081017USTSJUFB/index.html

They did do a nice job, and it did look like the Tommies crossed the line on that play.  Lady luck was looking our way today.  The fact that the Tommies have a pretty good video reporting team and had a pretty bad break on that non-scoring call doesn't diminish the fact that they do indeed suck, however.

[Willy Wonka]

Great win by the Gusties today. Maybe the biggest GAC win I've ever seen/played in on the gridiron. My full report will be turned in by halftime of the Vikes game, but I'm interested to hear from some of the Carlie backers.

Also, heard some interesting scuttlebutt in regards to the GAC coaching vacancy after this season.

Developing...

[sju56321]

Is it possible that an undefeated Monmouth from the Midwest Conference could be seeded ahead of the MIAC Conference champ? Has that ever happened before-MWC seeded ahead of MIAC champ?
Carleton has a tough last two games, against CC and SJU-looks like that will decide the conference.

[sju56321]

Post from the MWC thread-what does everyone think-possibility for first regional rankings from NCAA.

1. UW-Whitewater 6-0
2. Willamette 7-0
3. Occidental 5-0
4. Carleton 5-1
5. Linfield 4-1
6. Monmouth 6-0
7. Wartburg 5-2
8. UW-Stevens Point 5-1
9. Aurora 5-1
10. Concordia Mhead 4-2

St. Johns, Northwestern, Cal Lutheran, Redlands, Buena Vista are in the picture as well.

[Rugman]

Wow. Looks like what everyone on the radio was saying, Tommies were indeed screwed.

As tough as it is to give USTD credit, their paper did a nice video recap.

http://www.stthomas.edu/aquin/081017USTSJUFB/index.html

It does look like the upper part of his body fell across the goal line but on my PC I can't see where the ball was at the time or if his knee was down prior to the ball reaching the goal line.

It does raise a question that someone can answer for me.  If the ball cannot be seen by any of the referees because it's in the middle of a pile of moving bodies and it is not clear that the ball carrier's entire body crossed the goal line and they have to unwrap a pile of bodies to see where the ball ended up.....how to they rule?  I would think that if the ball carrier had the ball tucked under his arm against his body, and it was resting on or over the goal line, they would call it a TD.  But if the ball carrier's body is short of the goal line and he has the ball outstretched in his hand and it is over the goal line, do they default to the assumption it was moved there after he was down?

[Freebird]

Redpoop,

I was clearly kidding in my post about the miac "arriving." It was a joke about our poor conference and a jab at the wiac.

Where have you been all season? I miss making fun of you.

[CobberFvr]

Post from the MWC thread-what does everyone think-possibility for first regional rankings from NCAA.

1. UW-Whitewater 6-0
2. Willamette 7-0
3. Occidental 5-0
4. Carleton 5-1
5. Linfield 4-1
6. Monmouth 6-0
7. Wartburg 5-2
8. UW-Stevens Point 5-1
9. Aurora 5-1
10. Concordia Mhead 4-2

St. Johns, Northwestern, Cal Lutheran, Redlands, Buena Vista are in the picture as well.

Not sure Carleton should be so high. I was thinkin about 8 or 9 for them to be honest.

[retagent]

I haven't seen the video so I'm talking in general about similar plays. Many times when it looks like the ball is spotted short of where it appears that it should be spotted, I've seen replays that show that the runner's knee is down while his upper body is still off the ground and moving forward, and when the ball actually stops it's forward momentum, it is about 1 to 1/2 yard farther than when the knee actually touched. I'll choose to believe that this was the case yesterday, until I am convinced otherwise

[BudSJU84]

I haven't seen the video so I'm talking in general about similar plays. Many times when it looks like the ball is spotted short of where it appears that it should be spotted, I've seen replays that show that the runner's knee is down while his upper body is still off the ground and moving forward, and when the ball actually stops it's forward momentum, it is about 1 to 1/2 yard farther than when the knee actually touched. I'll choose to believe that this was the case yesterday, until I am convinced otherwise

The sideline commentator for the Johnnies broadcast, Mike Carr, a DII referee, was standing on the goal line and it looked to him like the Tommies scored on the play.   

[SJU92#57]

Haven't posted in a while but after seeing the Johnnies play last weekend in collegeville and listening to this weeks game at USTD I have a few thoughts.

1. The Johnnie D is good, but not great. Suspect to the deep pass and run up the middle. Still manage to get the job done, but really haven't faced a great offense yet.

2. The O line needs work. Haven't really been able to put a whole game together yet.

3. Pick a QB, one of them is going to play next year and obviously needs more playing time.

4. Jimmy's play calling! Although some of it can be attributed to pts 1-3, I really sometimes think "WTF" is he thinking. I played with him back in 88 and thought he was a dumss then and 20yrs later my opintion hasn't changed much.

5. Some have questioned "Is it time for the old man to hang it up?"  I say no. Nobody is better at breaking down film or getting the most out of the players than John.

6. The talet this year is down, but we've become so accustomed to the talent at SJU to be superior to the rest of the MIAC (ie Bethal up until the last 5 yrs) that we don't know how to react when it's not.

Just of few of my thoughts. I will now go back into my hole and hover over the board.

"In time, this too will pass."

[repete]

I haven't seen the video so I'm talking in general about similar plays. Many times when it looks like the ball is spotted short of where it appears that it should be spotted, I've seen replays that show that the runner's knee is down while his upper body is still off the ground and moving forward, and when the ball actually stops it's forward momentum, it is about 1 to 1/2 yard farther than when the knee actually touched. I'll choose to believe that this was the case yesterday, until I am convinced otherwise

The video link I posted isn't definitive because of the angle, but it's fairly telling and it doesn't look like a knee down issue here because the back is vertical.

Beyond Carr, Kyle Schroeder who got the fumble on the next play also said he thought Wartman had scored.