FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[chewey]

The cobbers were fortunate to leave klas field yesterday with a victory!  The safety in the 4th quarter was huge, but not as big as the phantom pass interference call on 4th and 5 with under a minute to go in the game.  Oh well, it was a great win and Hamline deserves a lot of credit.  They kept the cobber running game in check all afternoon.  However, I was surprised that cory johnson didn't get the ball more often.  I hope the cobbers take it one game at a time and finish the season strong!

Go Cobbers!

SJU faithful,

Looking back at last season for the johnnies, when did AK finally leave the game due to blowing out the opposing team?  If he stayed in the entire game when you're up by 30+ points late, then this is a coaching flaw.  Didn't the staff think to take him out of the game and give experience to the younger qb's?

I'm a bit surpised it was that close yesterday.  Props to Hamline.  They have taken some definitive steps forward.  I was sure saying my novenas that you guys would lose but I guess the answers of "yes" will have to be for more material life stuff.   I seem to recall that he left mid-fourth quarter, many times.  Maybe others can give further indication.  While some of those games were tight, I can think of the GAC game that was sort of a blow out -- at least it was pretty close to that near half time, if memory serves me correctly -- and he stayed in until the mid-fourth.  It would be nice to see some younger guys in much earlier during the games that are none too close.  With respect to GAC, it is too bad that they're losing their coach this year.   GAC has not had enough depth to go too far, unfortunately.  They have had  some very good players go there from this area; they've not had enough of them.

[OzJohnnie]

tmerton calls nap time. Nicely done.

Ah, come on you guys.  I don't wanna take a nap.

[janesvilleflash]

I wish I was sanctimonious, but I doubt I am. I had to cut and paste the word as I couldn't spell it. I'm loving all this bickering.

[familyguyfaneightyfour]

I've started four five posts since the Johnnies game yesterday.  What a difference from last year's thriller.  If AK or Penz played any game like the QB's played yesterday this board would be on fire.  The offense's may be down this year but the quarterbacks had opportunities to make many more plays than they did.  In the end St Johns expects to win, and the Oles waited for a catastrophe.  That was the difference in a very mediocre footbal game.

If Matt Penz (or Kofoed) were still in MIAC play, their team would not have lost a game, or have been within 20 points of their opponent in MIAC games.

[TC]

Let's keep a little bit of perspective, huh?  If one of about a dozen plays goes a different way in the Bethel and Concordia games, everyone would be talking about the Cardiac Johnnies, the plucky little top five team with the no name offense and impenetrable defense that just refuses to lose.  It's not like St. John's is getting blown off of the field like they have in the recent past against Central or UW-Whitewater.  They're playing close games against the teams that have given them close games the last handful of years--Concordia, Bethel, St. Thomas, and St. Olaf.  Sometimes  the breaks go your way, sometimes they don't.  There are a handful of close games the past couple of years that the Johnnies easily could have lost, some that they really had no business winning, but were fortunate enough to pull them out.  No one freaked out then, no one should be freaking out now.

You can argue that St. John's shouldn't put themselves in position to play a such close games in the first place, but all this season has really proven is that St. John's is no more immune to the cyclical nature of college football recruiting than any other team.  The only difference is that a couple of down years makes St. John's a conference title contender, rather than a national title contender.  Sure, it would be nice to have Decker or Waldvogel or Flannery (damn you, Scrubby) or whoever these stars are that we've missed out on the past couple of years.  But, unless you have some remarkable inside knowledge or something, to assume the reason they aren't wearing red and white is because the St. John's coaches don't recruit hard enough, or make the right promises, or play the right pregame music for them on their visit is just asinine.  Sometimes kids just decide not to go to St. John's--it's not like these other schools aren't trying their best to recruit, too.

The implication that Duff is a mindless Johnnie Lover is laughable.  

Let's all just take a collective step back from the ledge, take Mike Tice's advice and enjoy the season, and hope we get a few more W's next year, huh?






Cobbernation, Kofoed threw 24 or more passes in the last 20 games that he started after missing the Carleton game and half of the Concordia game his junior year.  Last year, the threw 392 passes while Hansel threw 28 and Boyle threw 8.  If anything, I don't think the coaches allowed the backups enough latitude to run the offense when they were in the game as they would typically just hand off every play.  Of course, that brings us to one of the old favorite discussion on here and elsewhere in prior years about how the Johnnies and John Gagliardi are killing little puppies by running up the score in the 4th quarter by passing the ball.

[chewey]

I've started four five posts since the Johnnies game yesterday.  What a difference from last year's thriller.  If AK or Penz played any game like the QB's played yesterday this board would be on fire.  The offense's may be down this year but the quarterbacks had opportunities to make many more plays than they did.  In the end St Johns expects to win, and the Oles waited for a catastrophe.  That was the difference in a very mediocre footbal game.

If Matt Penz (or Kofoed) were still in MIAC play, their team would not have lost a game, or have been within 20 points of their opponent in MIAC games.

I don't know about that.  I think the o-line for SJU would have cost us one game.  Koefed probably would have saved us at Bethel though.  I still think the Cobbers d-line would have been too much even with AK.  Like it or not, the Cobbers do have a very good defense.  If they learn how to pass better they may do something in the post-season.   It was fun to take two road trips up to Moorhead in 2005 to watch them beat Menlo and Wartburg. 

[tmerton]

It was fun to take two road trips up to Moorhead in 2005 

Now we all know that you're seriously deranged ... unless, of course, it was combined with a hunting trip.

[chewey]

It was fun to take two road trips up to Moorhead in 2005 

Now we all know that you're seriously deranged ... unless, of course, it was combined with a hunting trip.

Deranged I was but not deranged with a shot gun, thankfully.  When we combined them with Fighting Sioux hockey games, it made for eventful weekends.

[CobberFvr]

If anyone is interested, I have created a free forum site for Cobber and other MIAC football. Feel free to check it out.

MIND YOU THIS SITE IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. I'M NEW AT MANAGING IT AND HOPE TO FIGURE IT OUT SOON.

[snoop dawg]

I wish I was sanctimonious, but I doubt I am. I had to cut and paste the word as I couldn't spell it. I'm loving all this bickering.

How the heck did you find this picture of me and OB?   

[chewey]

If anyone is interested, I have created a free forum site for Cobber and other MIAC football. Feel free to check it out.

MIND YOU THIS SITE IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. I'M NEW AT MANAGING IT AND HOPE TO FIGURE IT OUT SOON.

I'd like to check it out.  I did not notice a link, however.  Thanks.

[CobberFvr]

http://cobbernation.freeforums.org/

Also found in my profile.

[chewey]

http://cobbernation.freeforums.org/

Also found in my profile.

Thanks.  I'll check it out.  Thanks for putting it up.  It's good to see people from other programs doing this. 

[OzJohnnie]

I'm not even going to get into my use of a verb (assault) and an image (collective ivory tower) and an adjective (inane) to describe the response of some SJU faithful's reaction to points that go against the usual SJU conventional wisdom  -- it's ok, never change anything. 

It all boils down to this, chewey: You think you're stickin' it to the Man and speaking Truth to Power, problem being we're not the Man and we're not the Power.  We're just a bunch of guys (and gals) that enjoy Johnnie football and share your frustrations with a sub-par season.  Who here argues that nothing should change?  No one.  What we don't share is your flamingly personal and increasingly belligerent rantings.

You have no apparently genuine interest in discussing what can be improved at SJU, since if you did you would find plenty of friendly folks here.  Instead you seem more interested in engaging in cheap polemics and unhinged ranting.  And on that topic, as well as on your analysis of what ails SJU (damn that fancy song!), you also fall embarrassingly short of competent.  Your latest screed is a pitiful victim of your tragically limited argumentative vocabulary and monochromatic bully technique.  It also seems that you are victim of an inability to comprehend your own argument.  We are not a bunch of rubes and patsies that fail to see the wisdom that only you have shined a light upon.  Your apparent inability to recognize our offense is with your name calling, not of the Johnnies but of us, points to an obtuseness of rare density.

You think the Johnnies are off this year and it may be systemic?  Fine (ooooh, an unique insight.  Not.).

You think we are a bunch of SJU sycophants for failing to whither under your melodramatic histrionics? Blowhard.


And with that finished, I now follow tmerton's advice.

[snoop dawg]

..........can I get an AMEN?