MBB: Midwest Conference

[larry_u]

Also for Monmouth what are their credit requirements for a degree? Could be another "yes"
"Monmouth will accept a maximum of 62 credits from outside academic institutions"

Ripon maybe, but it would be tough.  Monmouth no because of this line here:

Students obtaining at least 59 semester hours will transfer at Junior status.

[Gregory Sager]

Seems like Illinois isnt clear enough either for a yes or no...doesn't give a max for anything related to four year institution transfers (only for 2 year institutions), but one may exist...

and Ripon is a very possible yes: Transfer students must complete a minimum of 32 semester credits at Ripon, including at least one half the credit hours for any major or minor (seems like it depends on your major? it isnt possible to complete half the courses required for some majors in a senior year)

Also for Monmouth what are their credit requirements for a degree? Could be another "yes"
"Monmouth will accept a maximum of 62 credits from outside academic institutions"

You're correct that none of those three schools has an explicit statement in their catalogs about the 50% rule. However, since it is a highly restrictive rule (and one that would appear to enhance a school's claim to academic exclusivity) that could have a definite impact upon any number of potential transfers, it stands to reason that if such a rule was in place it would definitely be stated in the catalog.

[The Roop]

The rule is "we will transfer none, some, or all of your credits". What my research proved was as clear as mud. That's my story and I'm sticking to it, unless I find some reason why I shouldn't stick to it.

[Dolph Stanley]

So it really only appears that Carroll and St Norbert would abe able to accept a senior transfer.  However if said player wanted to stay for a 5th year, even though he would only have one year of eligability, pretty much any school would take him.

That's true, inasmuch as Hoch (or senior transfers in general) is the subject of the conversation. However, as regards my response to Roop's assertion:

In writing most institutions require 50% of your credits to be earned at that school before they award a degree. However, there are a lot of <wink wink> unwritten policies within certain conferences. Especially when they think they are the Ivy League of D3.

Evidence, please. I'm not aware of this being a requirement at most institutions.

... and his subsequent research, this is what we find:

Beloit: Yes, Roop's "50% of credits must be earned at the degree-granting school" thesis is upheld by Beloit's stated requirements.
Grinnell: Yes
Carroll: No
Illinois College: No
Knox: ?
Lake Forest: Yes
Lawrence: Yes
Monmouth: No
Ripon: No
St. Norbert: No


That's four "yes" schools with regard to the 50% transfer restriction, five "no" schools, and a question-mark school. And that's just within the academically-exclusive MWC, to say nothing of all the other four-year college and universities out there in the country. This is plainly not a widely-established graduation requirement in American higher education. However, to give due credit here (no pun intended), a tip o' the cap to Roop for undertaking what must've been some pretty boring school-catalog research.

The biggest recurring theme I discovered in my research was "up to the discretion of" somebody. What exactly that means is any ones guess. I will always maintain that he gets a better deal if he stays in conference than going elsewhere. In conference he likely gets the "discretionary nod" whereas going elsewhere, probably not.

My thoughts as well. It's all a matter of, "Here are our rules, which show how exclusive we are, and we shall uphold these rules to the letter ... except for cases in which we decide not to uphold them." In other words, it's "four legs good, two legs bad" unless the pig administrator in charge decides it's "two legs good, four legs bad".

The four schools that are "yes" along with one other make up the  "academically-exclusive" portion of the MWC.  

Roops rumor, while vague, is true.  

[Gregory Sager]

The four schools that are "yes" along with one other make up the  "academically-exclusive" portion of the MWC.  

Yeah, I, too, noticed that it fit what seems to be the consensus regarding academic reputation, Dolph. I didn't want to say anything, because I don't know how much of a touchy subject comparative academic reputation is among MWC schools.

[larry_u]

The four schools that are "yes" along with one other make up the  "academically-exclusive" portion of the MWC.  

Yeah, I, too, noticed that it fit what seems to be the consensus regarding academic reputation, Dolph. I didn't want to say anything, because I don't know how much of a touchy subject comparative academic reputation is among MWC schools.

Thats allright, thats ok...we know Ripon grads are gonna work for us someday......

[RTF]

Buchanan is new head coach at CU.

[The Roop]

"The players are looking forward to the opportunity to work with Coach Buchanan," said Hoch, a third-team D3hoops.com All-Region selection and first-team All-Midwest Conference honoree. "We are willing to whatever it takes to keep the program at a high level. We believe Coach Buchanan is going to give us a great opportunity to be successful, both now and in the future."

Doesn't sound to me like Hoch is going any where. However. Dowden was on the committee that helped select Vraney and he didn't stay at Beloit after the coaching change.

[ballhawk1dog]

John Hoch is 100% staying at Carroll

[phoenix_rising]

I'm sick to my stomach

[The Roop]

You have too many posts to be a player that committed to Superior and now your coach is gone. So exactly what is the source of your discomfort ??

[Just Bill]

You have too many posts to be a player that committed to Superior and now your coach is gone. So exactly what is the source of your discomfort ??

phoenix is simply a big UW-Superior fan and was very excited over the direction Coach Buchannan was taking the program.  In fact, possibly the only UWSup fan on these boards that I'm aware of.

[The Roop]

That makes sense. Superior isn't exactly the easiest sell from a recruiting stand point.

[Just Bill]

Chris Conger of Lake Forest is quoted in this New York Times blog entry about summer tournament admission fees/recruiting packets.

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/more-on-the-packet-racket/?scp=1&sq=Antonio%20Curro&st=cse

[Greek Tragedy]

via Facebook, got some info from Bobby Long.  He's headed to Germany to play basketball.

He's going to be playing for Rattelsdorf Independents.

He's not on the roster listed yet, but his fellow Grinneller, Keith Chamberlain is.  John Grotberg has his picture up on the Leverkusen team. 

Rattelsdorf didn't fair too well last term, going 3-19 while Leverkusen went 23-4.