MBB: Midwest Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

I'm hurt that you would even consider that I would want to cut off communications based on this disagreement - afterall, we haven't even addressed the subject of whether or not IWU having the same number of titles in bball as the next three schools combined is an 'Act of God' .

I was going to interrupt your dialogue with April to make a smart-aleck observation about God's existence being infinitely more provable by the fact that NPU has more than twice as many national titles in men's basketball as the rest of the CCIW combined. But I'll eschew the smart-aleck observation to instead make mention of how much I dislike athletes invoking God's involvement in the outcome after a victory. It's not only ridiculous to think that God favored Philadelphia over New York, or Seattle over Cleveland (did God take an interest in the over/under, too?), but it makes the player and his faith both look bad by his making God appear to have such a skewed sense of priorities.

If a player thanks God on national television for giving him the ability to play a game, that's another matter. I don't see anything wrong with that. But implying in one way or another that God wanted that player's team to win -- that's just self-aggrandizing and shallow.

Amen, Greg - a deity who was concerned about the final score of athletic contests would not be my idea of a deity worth the salt!

I should have clarified CCIW conference titles - NP certainly has cornered the market on national titles!  But, note with dread in your heart, that we have pulled within one on FF appearances.

Anyone recall how all this got going on the MWC board?  If it was my fault (for responding to a post by April on this site), I do apologize.  In fact, if it continues much longer, I apologize regardless of board!

[hjmphelp]

My fault, I think. I made some crack about how DHF didn't know who George Carlin was because Wheaton wouldn't allow students to read/watch him. It was just a joke cascading downhill, I guess. I have thoroughly enjoyed the conversation, though.



I just start 'em, I don't finish 'em.

[Pat Coleman]

In fact, if it continues much longer, I apologize regardless of board!

It won't continue much longer. If I have to, I'll be using my delete button.

[diehardfan]

Yeah, it's all JeffP's fault! 

In fact, if it continues much longer, I apologize regardless of board!

It won't continue much longer. If I have to, I'll be using my delete button.

This, but not the porn stuff on the liberty league board? Interesting. Does that mean you've gotten more complaints, or this topic just bothers you more?

[Pat Coleman]

It seems like it's becoming vaguely contentious, that's all. Don't want to see it go that direction. 

[diehardfan]

You're right, of all the people who post here, I hate Chuck and Jeff and Mark and Greg and John's guts the most. 

As long as Chuck doesn't claim that God is on IWU's side any more, we're good.  Heck, even North Park is more likely than that! 

[titan2000]

I do believe that someone who could bring such joy to the board by reminding you of the Waffle House would get some karma in return. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

You're right, of all the people who post here, I hate Chuck and Jeff and Mark and Greg and John's guts the most. 

As long as Chuck doesn't claim that God is on IWU's side any more, we're good.  Heck, even North Park is more likely than that! 

Naw, I figure Horenberger, Bridges, and Trost probably had a lot more to do with it than God!  

BTW, I hate your guts too!

But, Greg, you've still got the monopoly on banners, but we're gaining rapidly on FFs - someday we'll start collecting the full-fledged banners.

[The Roop]

On a rare basketball note, as it relates to team banquets, "The Roop" has learned that the behavior of certain individuals while out of town is not in keeping with the standards of "Americas Team".

Bad boys, bad boys. Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you. Bad boys bad boys.

Cops, Panama City........

Next time fellas, make sure you have $300 combined before you go out.

[LU_nut]

OK Roop.... I will bite.

Tell me more...pleaaaaase.

nutcake

[The Roop]

The NRO hereby welcomes Lu_Nut as a member in good standing, even though 1 of 3 went there.

[Flea]

Where is the 2006-2007 schedule ... or when does it come out?

[Gregory Sager]

I should have clarified CCIW conference titles - NP certainly has cornered the market on national titles!  But, note with dread in your heart, that we have pulled within one on FF appearances.

My ticker is angst-free on that subject, Chuck. We Parkers have no idea what it is like to go to a Final Four without winning it, so we don't deign to notice such ephemera as "appearances". 

Dennis Prikkel can address whether the first two national championship teams cut down the nets after their wins over Humboldt State and Chaminade propelled them into the Final Four, since I was in high school at the time and wasn't around North Park for those seasons. But I know that both the team and Vikings fans in general took great pride in the fact that the nets were never cut down following the quarterfinals wins over NJCU, Wittenberg, and Wartburg in the three subsequent national championship seasons. The Vikings were adamant that the Final Four was not viewed by North Park as a destination in and of itself, but merely as the last step on the journey. They thus refused to cut down the nets as a matter of principle until the journey was finally completed on the last night of the D3 season and the Big Doorstop was in their upraised hands.

I was in Carthage's gym when the then-Redmen beat Lewis & Clark and won the Midwest/West sectional in '02, earning the right to go on to Salem. The Carthage players cut down the nets. I asked head coach Bosko Djurickovic, "How come you're letting them cut down the nets, Bosk? You know that at North Park nobody ever would've dreamed of cutting down the nets one weekend early." His response was, "It's a different school and a different way of doing things, Sages. Plus, I asked the kids [his players] what they wanted to do, and they wanted to cut down the nets tonight. I've learned over the years that it's not about me and what I want ... it's about the kids."

I thought that that was a pretty good answer.

[Gregory Sager]

Your life if consided unfulfilled until you've eaten at a Waffle House and/or a White Castle.

Never been to a Waffle House, so I'm in no position to judge them. But your life is going downhill pretty rapidly if you find yourself eating at a White Castle. Or at the very least, your sobriety and the health of your digestive tract are going downhill. Just a couple more of the myriad reasons why they call 'em "sliders".

[systemfan86]

Your life if consided unfulfilled until you've eaten at a Waffle House and/or a White Castle.

Never been to a Waffle House, so I'm in no position to judge them. But your life is going downhill pretty rapidly if you find yourself eating at a White Castle. Or at the very least, your sobriety and the health of your digestive tract are going downhill. Just a couple more of the myriad reasons why they call 'em "sliders".

Waffle House is a little like the White Castle of breakfast restaurants.

Not a big White Castle fan. I was always a little concerned about trying it since the vast majority of stories about White Castle involve: (A) large amounts of alcohol, (B) a timeframe of 2 or 3 AM, and (C) limited financial resources. Frequently there is an additional component (D) of being physically sick. Somehow these stories didn't present a glowing endorsement of the restaurant. I ate there once. Nothing special.

Mr. Sager, you have apparently never made the overnight drive to Florida because that's when you eat at Waffle House! I think there are state laws in all states south of the Mason-Dixon line that require that a Waffle House be built at every interstate exit. When it's 5 AM and that all that is open, you're looking at biscuits and (pork sausage) gravy, and grits. They sit on your stomach much in the same way sliders do. On the plus side, it's still one of the few places in the world you can still find a waitress that will call you "Hun", and that HAS to be worth something!

DHF, I don't know whether to be happy or hurt that you don't hate my guts too.