MBB: Midwest Conference

[GrinnellFan68]

jeffp...who is this Attitude guy...not listed on the team roster...also, please order some waffles special for saturday morning...be a sport.

my daughter is pregnant with my first grand child. I'm as happy as a school boy. Boy those were the days...catching lightning bugs with Cleo on the grassy fields just before night fall.

sorry about my nostalgia...anyway...I'll be in Grinnell for the weekend to see Grinnell wipe the floor with those Beloit Bucs...Hinz won't be able to catch up...hahahahahaha.

[hjmphelp]

GF68-
Is being 'happy as a schoolboy' the same as being happy as 'a virgin in church'?

If you can't find something to eat here, you better bring your own, because we ain't gonna serve/get no stinkin' waffles...good sport or otherwise.

See you this weekend!

[systemfan86]

I get the trash talking with "The Roop" - he invites abuse, it would be impolite not to give it to him - but I'm not sure I'm ready to start trash talking with a team where the top two leading scorers are a freshman and a sophomore.

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited, and I think we'll have reason to boast during the year. I'd just prefer to go into the conference season very quietly.  

BTW, jeffp, is the play-by-play for the MtM game correct? It looks like all but 5 or 6 of the MtM shots were layups. I know the System gives up a bunch of layups, but that seemed like A LOT.

[Old Fighting Scot]

MWC4life,

i originally wrote a post that vented about how i believe MC regularly received unfair treatment from officials in wisconsin and especially at ripon.  but i erased it thinkin that maybe this message board is not the best place to be rehashing this event.  anyone at MC or around the program at that time will know exactly what i am talking about.  what took place was ridiculously shady and i will just leave it at that.

MC plays well at home, b/c we get decent fan support and our strength has been our shooters.  any basketball player will say that they shoot better in comfortable surroundings, your home gym being one of those.  it definitely has nothing to do with the refs, TG gets as many T's at home as he does on the road

you are off base on most of your statements, but i will take back the ripon = bottom feeder statement.  ripon will not be a bottom feeder in this conference b/c gillespie knows what he is doing, but ripon will not be a top 4 team this year, that is the point i am/was trying to get across.

[schwanman]

mwc4life makes some nice points, although "literally ended ... with no time and no one else on the line" isn't accurate. In both cases, the Red Hawks had one second left, and in both cases, the MC player who made the free throws (Dibble and Miller) batted away the inbounds pass.

But you're right, Monmouth has to win on the road to make a statement. And that statement is a ways off from being made because the Scots don't play an MWC game away from Glennie until Jan. 7. By late January, they will have only played three MWC road games. If the Scots are going to make a statement, it might not come until late in the year.

OFS -- hope you're right about the double-digit win. This SEEMS like a good time to catch Ripon ... we'll see (also should be a good time to catch Beloit after playing at Grinnell the night before).

(Technically, Ripon and Lake Forest are the current MWC "bottom feeders" but that won't last ... Ripon COULD get off to an 0-3 league start, though).

If the new big man can play like Braier, I'd guarantee that the Scots will battle Lawrence for the title. He's not there yet, though.

The Scots are solid, though, and the bench combo of Dibble, Blaser, Moore and Singleton, plus a few freshmen, is a strong one to supplement a solid top five.

This should be a fun weekend at Glennie. Judging by their recent home success, the Scots will be favored to go 2-0, and I'd take 'em anyway we can get them.

[mwc4life]

Fighting Scots-

I wasn't venting about any officiating...just noted how strange it was that both road games the last two years have ended on a refs call...all of which weren't very obvious...i would know (PS Schwanman, two years ago there was no time on the clock cause he shot FT's by himself.  Second game was tied and after the foul call there was less then a second left and hardly a shot at making a basket).

It's funny, you haven't seen them play yet and even if you did, it's WAAAAAYYYY too early to judge a team that has consistantly competed for 20 years!!! I'm not saying Ripon has competed every 5 years, lose 10 games, win another 3 years and then lose 13 games.  They consistantly finish at or over .500 for a long long time.  For whatever reason they aren't playing well together right now, but there is plenty of time to change that.  I have no doubt that Monmouth will be a better team then they have been in the last 5 years...especially since Terry is such a fine coach (one of my favorites in the league). We will see how it goes this weekend and be sure to get back to me win/lose and let me know what you think....remember double digits or more!!!

[schwanman]

Just to clarify, I'm not judging Ripon as a weak team. Just saying this might be a good time during the season to catch them. The accounts I'm reading is that they aren't in sync yet. And the 0-3 league start observation IS a possibility .. they're on the road at Grinnell, Monmouth and Lawrence for their first three.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the game two years ago. I was there, and I clearly remember Dibble knocking away Ripon's last-ditch inbounds pass. The box score shows it as well. It's a minor point, though.

I'll be sure to post following the Monmouth-Ripon game on Friday. By no means am I expecting a double-digit outcome. I'm just expecting a pretty darn good MWC opener.

[fightingscots13]

mwc4life - I'm not ready to predict any finishes at this point in the season, either.  My former experiences w/ RU tell me not to rule them out.  

I think I'll have a better opinion of the Scots in another week after they've played two conf. games sandwiched between two non-conf. games, one tonight and one next Wed.  The competition will be much better and we'll see how MC's newcomers handle the pressure of MWC games.

IF, IF, IF RU has a sub-par season, what would RU posters say is the reason?  It seems as if the team has a nice pg in McMullen, Johnson can score inside/outside and they have a true big man in Schmitting.  Are the role players not fulfilling their role as they have in the past?  Just curious...

[fightingscots13]

I should've clarified my early statement to read something like, "because of RU's slow start, what would RU posters say is the reason?" 

...And, since the Scots are playing BU this wkend, too, has it been posted that Hinz hasn't been their leading scorer yet?  Last year he was their leading scorer in about 1/2 their games.  Obviously he can do that again this year since it's early, but thought that was a little odd...any reason why?  BU posters??

[diehardfan]

Ok, I've been called out in a personal Email from Mr. "the Roop" for not giving him the opportunity to trash talk on this board about our side bet for this Friday's game against Beloit.
Mr. "The Roop" is gonna look great standing at center court after the game wearing a GC shirt that is 2 sizes too small.

"just get whatever size fits you as I won't be needing one" indeed.

The race is on!

I don't know... a tee shirt bet just isn't as fun as a cookie, scone, and kimchi and spam bet. 

[The Roop]

DHF,

The bet has been modified. Originally I had called for Jeff to drink Folgers Crystals after the game.

Grinnellfan68,

True, Hinz might not be able to catch up, but that's because he is one of the slower players on the roster this year.

AM,

Glad to see one of the Pioneer faithful is talking sensibly. But then again you have always been NRO compliant so I'm not surprised.

JeffP,

Hope you won't mind a previously worn Beloit shirt. I thought about getting a new one but new ones just don't absorb the tears that well until they've been washed a few times.

[scottie]

Any word from Glennie Gym?  The Scots are going up against the MacMurray "System" tonight...

[schwanman]

Monmouth 89, MacMurray 83

The Scots were up 15 at one point but allowed the Highlanders to tie the game at 80-80. Hebeler and Dibble came up big at the end, combining for the final nine points.

The Scots, uncharacteristically in their home gym, didn't shoot well from beyond the arc (9-of-32) or at the line (18-of-32).

[Maverick]

I'll take you up on that Maverick.  If you go to the games at Glennie Gym this weekend, I'll look forward to your recap.

"Dominating the pick 'em league in 2006!"   

Scottie - I may make it over to the Ripon game on Friday night, but probably won't be there for Beloit on Saturday afternoon--have a previous commitment.  I might put a recap on here after the Ripon game or could just post the score and leave the recapping to SchwanMan or FightingScots13!

And I was in the middle of typing up the Scots score that I found on the MC website, but SchwanMan beat me to it!  Anyhow, congrats to the Scots on holding onto the win.

[scottie]

Way to go Scots!

I hope you all are watching the Indiana/Duke game right now.  I could care less about both of these teams, but that Killingsworth is DA MAN.