MBB: Midwest Conference

[systemfan86]

sf86- 'the roop' spent most of Saturday morning at Saints Rest looking for his mind actually. I promised him I would send it to him c/o Pat Coleman if it shows up.

Hoops Fan- no, nobody pulled anyone's shorts. What a ridiculous hoot of a whine that is. Although, they (the student section) may have managed to call the time out mentioned, it was hard to tell. If so, it was one of the funniest stunts I have ever seen at a game; all credit to the Baseball team!

Re: "The Roops" mind.  I thought I saw it on top of the Roopacinno...

Re: funniest stunts ever, I know I'm biased, but I'm still partial to the sound effects game again Coe back in the day. It's harder to pull off a good stunt in a small crowd, but we gave it a good shot. 

[mwc4life]

GOBUCS~

I would make the trip every year if it wasn't so far for me.  It's one of THE most exciting games to watch and I know Ripon's Gym is ALWAYS packed for the games against Grinnell.  I know I'm probably not the one to say this but give it a rest.  It is definately a home advantage however you look at it.  If you make easy lay-ups and hit your FT's, there's a great chance you can beat Grinnell.  Can it just be a chance that Grinnell's system is back and that they've going to be extremely tough to beat at home?

[hjmphelp]

well put, mwc4life!
Might i also suggest that Grinnell DID NOT invent or define the term "home advantage". I honestly believe it is part of our sports lexicon and can be used to describe the situation at any home court game.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

One of the few things JeffP won't claim to have originated at Grinnell... you should hear his diatribe on the discover of fire by a small group of students standing in line at old darby waiting for the doors to open back in 54,000 BC.


Fire! A great way to keep warm. 

Brought to you by Grinnell College

[hjmphelp]

Fire! A great way to light...er, stuff!

G'night folks! It is way past this old geezer's nap time!

Early to bed
Early to rise
Makes a man
tired and addicted to caffiene.

[Early]

Very good points from jeffp, Cheeb Da Cheetah and mwc.

go bucs, don't stop going to Grinnell.  It is a great place to see a game, although I haven't seen the new facilities.  But I Grinnell fans AT TIMES have shown little to no class in my experiences.   Now I've been in other gyms, Ripon's included, where students has disrespected the opponents so I'm definitely not saying we are all perfect.

but in my opinion, crazy, rediculous, often disresepctful fans are part of the home court.  I've never been to Darby, but in general the fans picking verbal fights with players and coaches all lead to the betterment of the team. 

I completely agree here, but there have been some extreme cases @ Grinnell that are classless.  Yelling OCD to Julian Schwartz, who suffered from OCD, and I've seen Coach A go up to students and give high fives to fans that were picking fights with visiting fans and even parents.  Grinnell fans have picked 2 fights with my own father at the games.

But I have also heard some of the most creative chats there too.  I don't want to say that they don't have class, or any less class than other students.....there have just been some REAL BAD cases in my experience.

[systemfan86]

I   want to put this Grinnell thing to rest but I have to get a few things off my chest first. 

I know that Grinnell is out on an island but I don;t understand  why you would let refs pull that crap year after year.  It has to get better or teams will start to forfeit and not make the trek out there.  Why waste your legs for the slim chance of winning and screw up your chance of winning on Saturday somewhere else.

I agree that we should put this to rest, and I appreciate the kind comments you did make.

What I don't completely understand is this...as recently as last year, your bucs traveled to Grinnell and won. A national cable audience witnessed it. So why do you present this as some unbearable situation? The implication that we somehow 'control' the refs (because they don't make calls or that we 'let refs pull that crap') is silly. If there was any validity to it - and there isn't - why wouldn't Grinnell have exploited it for their advantage on nation cable television?!

Bad refs are bad refs. They just seem a whole lot worse when their bad calls go against you. I'm guessing everyone on the board can tell a story about bad refs. You're wise to let it go.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Of course if we want to reach the level of d1, we have to being infultrating not just the games with pranks, but the other team's fans as well.

Do you recall this story?

[The Roop]

At Knox and Monmouth they sing the opponents fight song in a show of sportsmanship.

Stop it Jeff, you're killing me. 

[Greek Tragedy]

I was guess that's why we haven't heard from Ripon's Fans that made the trip.  They were smarter than me and didn't waste their time.

I was in Stevens Point watching the Pointers beat up on River Falls.  All because they lost doesn't mean it was a waste of time.  As you said, you enjoyed it.  If it is indeed 300 miles, yeah, that's a long trip.  It's not like I'm every going to drive to Superior to watch the Pointers play. 

I'll miss the big Ripon/Lawrence game as well, since Point plays host to Stout. Sorry boys, I got priorities! 

[Greek Tragedy]

Final from Kenosha...

Carroll 82
Carthage 74

Apparently the Carthage boys are trying to make the loss to Carroll look as good as possible...

per press release:

The Carthage College men's basketball team (1-5, 0-0 College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin) lost to No. 38 Carroll College (Wis., 5-0), 82-74, on Monday, Dec. 5 at the Carthage Physical Education Center in Kenosha, Wis.

Thought that was kind of funny. 

[Pat Coleman]

They did that with football, too. Rankings beyond No. 25 are not recognized by D3hoops.com. Or D3football.com, for that matter.

[Greek Tragedy]

Question to Lawrence fans...

I went to the Oshkosh/Lawrence game at the beginning of the season and was glad to see they added bleachers behind one of the baskets. 

What was the seating capacity at the Alex prior to those additions and what is it now with the new bleachers in place?  It definitely looks a lot better than a bunch of people standing around behind that basket and all those little kids sitting on the ground beyond that tacky rope you guys had! 

Is this in any way a result of trying to possibly host a tournament game in the future, considering they probably weren't even considered because of the lack of capacity in the past? 

[The Roop]

OS,

With the possible exception of a first round game, neither Lawrence or Grinnell are likely to host anything. "New Darby" is nice but it lacks the seating capacity for anything more than the MWC Tournament. So the next question for the Grinnell faithful is: 

"Why build something with a regulation court in order to host NCAA post season events, if you don't include enough seating to be seriously considered for hosting NCAA post season events"??

[hjmphelp]

Because, Mr 'The Roop', as everyone knows Grinnell isn't interested in winning and hosting tourney's, just harrassing fans, coaches and players from other MWC teams. New Darby is plenty big enough for that.

Sorry Early. I really have to doubt your story about papa. I have never seen anything remotely close to someone from the student body attempting to fight with a parent of an opposing player. I talked to one long time security person who has no knowledge of such an event, and he dogs the student section.

I'm not saying it couldn't or didn't happen, I just seriously doubt that it did.

BTW- there is a huge difference between verbal jousting and attempting to physically fight with someone. The former may happen frequently and should be taken for what it is-funny and somewhat silly. The latter should be delt with severely but it has to be reported to be addrressed.

Cheeb- you sound like you mighta played system ball at some time, huh?