MBB: Midwest Conference

[The Roop]

Losing at Carthage certainly isn't a crime. That has been a tough place to play at since always.

Beloit isn't likely to win to MWC this year but I really like the "new attitude" they have this season. Two years ago especially, and even last year, a 20 point defecit at any time would have easily turned into a 30 point loss.

I think Tubbs took a nice step forward tonight scoring wise, but he needs to watch the fouls.

et al

LU probably wins there without much trouble.

[hjmphelp]

Wartburg had a great game plan last night and Grinnell went cold for two 4-5 minute stretches in the 2nd half after posting a 7 pt lead at half. WC had almost the same plan as the Aussies, only they didn't turn it over 52 times and they finished almost every possession with a lay in. GC  had a good solid 1st half and totally unhinged in the second. Not only were the treys not falling, but the chippies weren't either. You can't miss lay ups  and 5 footers, get way out-rebounded, and win against good teams, I guess.

GC forced a good number of TO's, but failed to handle the ball at critical times. GC had no problems penitrating-in fact had an easier time of it than against Ripon, but just couldn't get the ball in the hole for too long a time in two stretches. They missed at least 10 chippies  in the second half, and shot poorly from the ft line. Wow. Also put WC on the line too many times. One guy was 15-16 and another was 9-10. Grinnell never adjusted  to the type of calls being made and it hurt them in the second half. (BTW, the foul disparity should help eliminate some of the nonsense about 'homers' at Grinnell. )

This should be a real learning experience for the youngsters. I imagine Carroll and Larry will have similar plans (maybe not quite as efficient) especially on defense.

Grotberg continues to be a bright spot-easily the best guard on the floor-eliminating many of the mistakes made against BC and RC. I haven't seen any team take Paul out of his game like these guys did. Their style took away much of his defensive punch-might have had something to do with the overall height advantage-and kept him from getting too many open looks on the offenseive side. In fact, they defended against the treys in the second half quite well and for the first time this year, GC couldn't get the shots to fall off the penetration moves.

wartburg is a strong team, they were able to execute their game plan, and basically execute Grinnell as well. Are they top 15 caliber? I think so, they certainly have the size and mental toughness to make a run in the MWC. Very happy to report they have no intention of joining.

[schwanman]

Thanks Mr. Ypsi. As Johnny Carson would say, "I did not know that."

[titan2000]

Tharp has a "goon squad"?  Now that is funny.  No, actually ridiculous.

[scottie]

Hebeler is now the best shooter AND scorer in the MWC!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.   

[Greek Tragedy]

Hebeler is now the best shooter AND scorer in the MWC!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

there's a difference? lol 

[Old Fighting Scot]

Maverick,

If all else fails, run em!  thats what i did best, run em!

Schwannman,

Redlands for lack of a better term sucks.  They are like the really bad grinnell teams.  the "west coast system" is extremely limited b/c they dont have any talent.  the have one player (think atheltic scuba steve) and only one other player that i would even try to describe as a shooter.  The rest of the team (talent wise) might as well have been picked randomly from the student section prior to the game.  The game I saw (vs. currently 8-0 Chapman U.) they didnt even shoot the three ball.  Mainly b/c of the lack of "shooters" but, i would guess that redlands put up less than 30 treys.

Snydz,

Your grey ghost dont want to see the M-R titans.  I dont care if Orion is 15th or not i dont believe that is a game we should have lost, especially at home.  Im sure coach grant will get them righted for the next game. 

To all,

12 threes is amazing, hebeler is a very good "SCORER." i still would not classify him as a great shooter 8)

[Snydz822121]

Maverick,

If all else fails, run em!  thats what i did best, run em!

Schwannman,

Redlands for lack of a better term sucks.  They are like the really bad grinnell teams.  the "west coast system" is extremely limited b/c they dont have any talent.  the have one player (think atheltic scuba steve) and only one other player that i would even try to describe as a shooter.  The rest of the team (talent wise) might as well have been picked randomly from the student section prior to the game.  The game I saw (vs. currently 8-0 Chapman U.) they didnt even shoot the three ball.  Mainly b/c of the lack of "shooters" but, i would guess that redlands put up less than 30 treys.

Snydz,

Your grey ghost dont want to see the M-R titans.  I dont care if Orion is 15th or not i dont believe that is a game we should have lost, especially at home.  Im sure coach grant will get them righted for the next game. 

To all,

12 threes is amazing, hebeler is a very good "SCORER." i still would not classify him as a great shooter 8)

Smoov,

dont even get me started....but you still didnt answer my question on how far you are from Glendale, CA?

[LU 05]

sorry "dahammer" but I have previously stated that I have no problem with the occassional transfer.  I am pretty sure that Carroll is starting three right now!  I am not even going to acknowledge this Carroll hype. 

here's the equation

finishing in 4th place last year + losing Hickethier = Lawrence being a better team

[Maverick]

Maverick,

If all else fails, run em!  thats what i did best, run em!

Old Fighting Scot - We've been doing our fair share of running over the first few weeks.  But I guess we may have to raise that amount some if we don't start doing certain things the right way from now on.

[Greek Tragedy]

here's the equation

finishing in 4th place last year + losing Hickethier = Lawrence being a better team

New equation:  Carroll barely beats Concordia.  Concordia is horrible.  I saw them play against Eau Claire, and believe me, Eau Claire is horrible too.

[Snydz822121]

Maverick,

If all else fails, run em!  thats what i did best, run em!

Old Fighting Scot - We've been doing our fair share of running over the first few weeks.  But I guess we may have to raise that amount some if we don't start doing certain things the right way from now on.

Come on coach Mav...you have to know that the best way to get you rplayers to play is to put them through hell in practice.  Have them play one on one, two on two, three on three full court...therefore making alot of drills full court.  but anyways, did you get alot of drifting snow in IL??

[TeeDub]

OFS,

Exaggerations sometimes affect credibility...Redlands shot 54 treys in the Chapman game and made 19.  Don't get me wrong, your assessment may still hold water, but the numbers you threw out there (< 30 treys) were a tad bit off.

[wwallacecc]

you're right old school, our guys didn't play very consistently last night, got into some foul trouble, and didn't find a workable rhythm against concordia.  and you are also right, concordia is not very good.  but the guys found a way to win, and didn't get down when they weren't playing well.  for anyone that missed it, tosh won it in dramatic fashion.  johnson dribbled it down the sideline with 4.7 seconds left to go looking to hit drury in the corner, tosh's defender went to help out and james lobbed it up to tosh who hit the shot at the buzzer.  that makes two buzzer beating shots THIS WEEK at van male fieldhouse!  and you bet your ass i was at both of those games with bells and whistles on.  the girls game on monday ended with a sophmore phenom going coast to coast and hitting a jumper as time expired.  i like to think i had something to do with that one because i am on the team of "gym rats" that practices against the girls.  but...my point is that its one hell of a time to be a pioneer!  and not a damn hippie pioneer from the field of dreams back country.

[GrinnellFan68]

I am currently locked in my basement. My wife left earlier and won't be back until Sunday morning. All I have to do is check the internet and eat Doritos(strategically placed my me a couple weeks ago...hiding them from Edith). The point is I'm bored.


I missed you a couple weeks ago, jeffp...the lady and I made the game against Beloit but I wasn't feeling social. We ate at A and M in the morning. It smelled horrible and the waitresses were less than attractive, but the food was good and cheap. But I bet Saint's Rest is better.

I was just nervous about meeting you. Pretty intimidating. I mean, you're jeffp.