MBB: Midwest Conference

[Old Fighting Scot]

It still hurts, haha.  Seriously they probably thought i was going to receive a scholie or that i would end up at a juco like everyone else in the ie....

[TeeDub]

That must be it...so many kids come out of a small Catholic high school in Riverside, who traditionally hasn't had much success, and get scholarships, so I can see why they would think that.

[Old Fighting Scot]

when they are the best team in the county ppl start to notice....

especially when the backourt (socal hoops said maybe best in area) is imported from a Moval team that produced three D1 bball (Michigan Loyola and Texas A&M) products, one d1 football player and a d2 player of the year that is now in the "L," just a year before......    

and the small catholic h.s. had a player gettin attention from a lot mid majors (won an NAIA national title at Concordia), a current NFL player (scored td on MNF w/niners this year)and two others that played major D1 football, CSU and Army... meaning not your average small catholic school.

[TeeDub]

and the small catholic h.s. had a player gettin attention from a lot mid majors (won an NAIA national title at Concordia), a current NFL player (scored td on MNF w/niners this year)and two others that played major D1 football, CSU and Army... meaning not your average small catholic school.

...meaning not your average "individuals" at your small catholic school...and you don't get talent by association.  While they may have been good, that doesn't mean that you were.

There were many other kids that played with LeBron James in high school, but I think the only thing we call them now is "entourage"

[Old Fighting Scot]

http://www.socalhoops.tierranet.com/archive/prepnotes/Feb98/riv211b.htm

you are correct.

[TeeDub]

Let's shed a little light on this link you have provided, shall we:

First of all, that is not So Cal Hoops calling you "one of the best teams in the county", it is a reprint of the local paper in your area, The Press Enterprise.  And we all know how unbias local ink can be.  Plus, saying that you have a chance to win the Skyline League (a mediocre league at best) does not instantly elevate you to one of the county's best, a county, I might add, that includes the likes of Riverside Poly, JW North, Centennial (Corona), MLK, Ramona, and others...all of which are in an entirely higher place than Notre Dame will ever be.

CJ, I'm just giving you a hard time for the fun of it.  But, let's be real for a second, you were just a maybe slightly better than average, small high school player with speed, playing in a less than average talent league that allowed your team to elevate the W's on the win/loss record.  You went to a midwest D3 and played some minor minutes and got a good education.  As you have said before, this all started because you said Redlands sucks.  They may suck, but I just thought it would be fun to challenge your credentials to say so...especially after seeing them once and now learning that you are bitter about them not recruiting you.  Your credibility on both boards has been challenged so I just couldn't let your 'premature' assessment stand.

[Old Fighting Scot]

bitter.. no.  didnt even know redlands existed when i was in high school.  King (the only county team to win a title ever) did not exist when i was in school. 
Historically you are correct about the other teams in the county, but that year Notre Dame was the best, we beat ramona in the chip of the Press enterprise (county christmas tourney), corona centennial (featuring washington's jamal williams)won the consolation bracket.  Murrieta Valley, featuring future pac-10 defensive player of the year (pretty sure) Brian Weathers, got ran by the lowly catholic school team.  Riverside Arlington had jimmy miggins (pepperdine) (county POY)that year, they beat us at the buzzer in a game we were up by 20 in.  i think jimmy had 35, 25 and 8 or something ridiculous.  Poly hasnt really been dominant since mr. miller was there and North was in between dominant teams.  We also beat long beach jordan and Venice.  Notre Dame (small and catholic) was the best team in the city that year.  period...  The second best team that year was probably la sierra (you failed to mention them) and we beat them by 15 in a preseason game. 

[hjmphelp]

Grinnell High School finished 4th(losing to the eventual State champ in the semi)  in the state my sophmore year and 8th (losing to the eventual state champ, a team we had beaten twice in the regular season) my senior year. It sounds like i had as much to do with our victories as you did in yours according to JR's research!

Research is really the key to making good arguements that people will listen to here. Your statements about Wood, Malinowski et al aren't doing what was left of your credibility much good, my friend.

[hjmphelp]

BTW-i sat 3 rows behind the bench both of those games!

[hjmphelp]

Scottie-
Richard C and Karen are both life long friends and not to be disparaged incidentally as my post almost kinda did. great grant writers, both, and both with wicked hair!
Teri and Niel on the other hand...

[Old Fighting Scot]

Grinnell High School finished 4th(losing to the eventual State champ in the semi)  in the state my sophmore year and 8th (losing to the eventual state champ, a team we had beaten twice in the regular season) my senior year. It sounds like i had as much to do with our victories as you did in yours according to JR's research!

Research is really the key to making good arguements that people will listen to here. Your statements about Wood, Malinowski et al aren't doing what was left of your credibility much good, my friend.

Are you serious???  i believe i showed he needed to do at the least bit, a lil more research via my last post.

Me saying wood was a baller and very hard to guard (he was MVP wasnt he) takes away from my credibility?? where do you come up with this stuff.  JeffP, once again it seems as if you are bashing me for complimenting Grinnell, there's gratitude for ya...

[systemfan86]

According to D3hoops, Redlands is 3-5, but isn't hard to say a team sucks and should be thrown out of a league when Cal Tech is in the same league?!?!

Redlands and their version of the system seem as popular as Grinnell is for many MWC fans. They've been bottom half of their conference the last couple years, but they're still going to beat a couple of the middle rung teams. Does that constitute 'sucking"? I doubt it. Cal Tech defines the term for that league (and for all of d3hoops!)

[systemfan86]

Speaking of Cal Tech read the write up the bball teams gets on their own website. It's a hoot!

http://www.athletics.caltech.edu/sports/mbb/mbb.html

[scottie]

JeffP - Are we still allowed to post up on this board?   

You'll be happy to know that I dropped your name to both Richard and Karen (and also Todd, who mentioned something to me about Hilary wanting to get in my line of work).

[hjmphelp]

OFS-you might want to read your own post half way down page 63. Then re read it. Then read it again and tell me how you get from there to where you are in your arguement now. I can't really call what you do dancin' on thin ice when you are already in up to your neck. As I mentioned before, maybe you lost to GC 5 times because you didn't keep track of the so-called 2-11 shooters.

So nice of  you to be nice to Grinnell, though.




OK, Scottie, I think we can talk here again. Hilary would be a natural! That is quite a group you met!