MBB: Midwest Conference

[Greek Tragedy]

Maybe the Green Knights can just work on their SoS. Granted, the conference doesn't help. Are the MWC teams ever going to go to a 25 game schedule?

Any word on Sabin's potential professional career?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Maybe the Green Knights can just work on their SoS. Granted, the conference doesn't help. Are the MWC teams ever going to go to a 25 game schedule?

Any word on Sabin's potential professional career?

Yes... I believe 25 games next season... but I will work to confirm.

[WUPHF]

Any word on Sabin's potential professional career?

I was curious so I looked at his Twitter feed.  He Tweeted a news story with an interview.  He says he hopes to play overseas and will hire an agent in May.

[ShineTime]

They need to make a splash and hire nick Bennett.

[WUPHF]

In case anyone cares, it looks like Ty Sabin has signed with an agent to play overseas.

It is always cool to see a Division III player find a way to stay in the game whether it is playing or coaching.

[badgerwarhawk]

He was fun to watch.  We held him in check once and watched him nearly beat us singlehandedly another time.  Good luck to him. 

[hopefan]

Amusing to me...  or maybe disgusting...

Grinnell looking for new scoring record?

4 of their 6 non conference games in 2017-18 are vs:

Emmaus Baptist   (12-23) last year vs mostly Bible College teams... lost to Illinois Tech by 25

Wright State Lake  (5-20) vs other Branch Campus and Community College Teams

Lincoln Christian   (5-22)  vs mostly USCAA Schools, Christian Colleges.... lost to Greenville, Eureka, Illinois Tech each by + 40

Kansas Christian   (11-27) vs a variety of schools ranging from D2 to Bible Colleges.   0-3 vs D3 teams Nebraska Wesleyan (a 70 point loss), Westminster Mo, Simpson

Then throw in another likely high scoring non conference game vs System proponent Nebraska Wesleyan!!!


Yikes, use the system for 40 minutes against each of these teams and Grinnell may push 180, 190 per game for 5 games!!!!

I love watching the system, be it Grinnell or Greenville or anyone else.... but not against programs that likely have no chance to compete....

[Greek Tragedy]

No Greenville rematch? Thought they might get Rhodes in there.

I don't know about Greenville, bit I've heard in the past that Grinnell has a hard time getting games because no one wants to play against The System. There's no benefit to them.

[Gregory Sager]

Amusing to me...  or maybe disgusting...

Grinnell looking for new scoring record?

4 of their 6 non conference games in 2017-18 are vs:

Emmaus Baptist   (12-23) last year vs mostly Bible College teams... lost to Illinois Tech by 25

Wright State Lake  (5-20) vs other Branch Campus and Community College Teams

Lincoln Christian   (5-22)  vs mostly USCAA Schools, Christian Colleges.... lost to Greenville, Eureka, Illinois Tech each by + 40

Kansas Christian   (11-27) vs a variety of schools ranging from D2 to Bible Colleges.   0-3 vs D3 teams Nebraska Wesleyan (a 70 point loss), Westminster Mo, Simpson

In the interest of fairness, do we know for sure that Dave Arseneault sought out these opponents for the specific purpose of setting records against them to garner publicity for Grinnell? Or was this a case of nobody in D3 wanting to play Grinnell because of the System, thereby forcing Arseneault to schedule NCCAA and USCAA teams?

Then throw in another likely high scoring non conference game vs System proponent Nebraska Wesleyan!!!

This is the first time I've heard that NebWes is running the System. Are you really sure that it is? The statistical profile of NebWes does not match that of a System team. Only nine Prairie Wolves played in 20 or more games last season, compared to Greenville's 16 and Grinnell's 14. NWU's box scores consistently show only ten to twelve players being used per game. Five different Prairie Wolves averaged over 22 mpg last season, with star Cooper Cook averaging over 32 minutes of playing time. Only one player between Greenville and Grinnell averaged 20 mpg last season, and that was Kenny Greene of the Panthers -- and he averaged 20 minutes right on the nose. Slightly over half of Greenville's field goal attempts (1,388 of 2,765) and a whopping 62% of Grinnell's field goal attempts (1,245 of 1,990) were from behind the arc, while less than 40% (711 of 1,800) of the FGA of Nebraska Wesleyan were from downtown. There's also a wide discrepancy between the number of opponent turnovers for Nebraska Wesleyan and the number of opponent turnovers from which Grinnell and Greenville each benefited in 2016-17: NWU acquired the ball via opponent turnovers 426 times, while Grinnell's opponents had 632 turnovers and Greenville's had 789.

Based upon their statistical profile, it looks to me as though the Prairie Wolves were just a team that liked to run a lot, and were very good at it.

[hopefan]

Amusing to me...  or maybe disgusting...

Grinnell looking for new scoring record?

4 of their 6 non conference games in 2017-18 are vs:

Emmaus Baptist   (12-23) last year vs mostly Bible College teams... lost to Illinois Tech by 25

Wright State Lake  (5-20) vs other Branch Campus and Community College Teams

Lincoln Christian   (5-22)  vs mostly USCAA Schools, Christian Colleges.... lost to Greenville, Eureka, Illinois Tech each by + 40

Kansas Christian   (11-27) vs a variety of schools ranging from D2 to Bible Colleges.   0-3 vs D3 teams Nebraska Wesleyan (a 70 point loss), Westminster Mo, Simpson

In the interest of fairness, do we know for sure that Dave Arseneault sought out these opponents for the specific purpose of setting records against them to garner publicity for Grinnell? Or was this a case of nobody in D3 wanting to play Grinnell because of the System, thereby forcing Arseneault to schedule NCCAA and USCAA teams?

Then throw in another likely high scoring non conference game vs System proponent Nebraska Wesleyan!!!

This is the first time I've heard that NebWes is running the System. Are you really sure that it is? The statistical profile of NebWes does not match that of a System team. Only nine Prairie Wolves played in 20 or more games last season, compared to Greenville's 16 and Grinnell's 14. NWU's box scores consistently show only ten to twelve players being used per game. Five different Prairie Wolves averaged over 22 mpg last season, with star Cooper Cook averaging over 32 minutes of playing time. Only one player between Greenville and Grinnell averaged 20 mpg last season, and that was Kenny Greene of the Panthers -- and he averaged 20 minutes right on the nose. Slightly over half of Greenville's field goal attempts (1,388 of 2,765) and a whopping 62% of Grinnell's field goal attempts (1,245 of 1,990) were from behind the arc, while less than 40% (711 of 1,800) of the FGA of Nebraska Wesleyan were from downtown. There's also a wide discrepancy between the number of opponent turnovers for Nebraska Wesleyan and the number of opponent turnovers from which Grinnell and Greenville each benefited in 2016-17: NWU acquired the ball via opponent turnovers 426 times, while Grinnell's opponents had 632 turnovers and Greenville's had 789.

Based upon their statistical profile, it looks to me as though the Prairie Wolves were just a team that liked to run a lot, and were very good at it.

Yes, should not have used "system proponent", rather than "high scoring"...    Still, they were able to find 4 D3 opponents last year....

[AndOne]

NWU loves to both run and shoot. However, that doesn't make them a true "system" team like Grinnell.
NWU took 711 threes last season. Grinnell took 1,245 in 3 less games.
NWU shot 149 more threes than their opponents or 5.7 more per game. GC shot 1,012 more or 44 more per game than their opponents.

There aren't many available shots that NWU doesn't like. But, there are a few. Grinnell and other true system teams, not so much.

By the way, Kansas Christian, which NWU put up 144 points against last season, and which Grinnell has scheduled this year, is an NCCAA school which played its first year of basketball last season. Me thinks that's the primary reason the Plainsmen Prairie Wolves reached 144 rather than them playing "the system." 🏀 😉

[gbpuckfan]

Sabin signs deal to play in Denmark:

http://fox11online.com/sports/college/ripons-sabin-sets-sights-on-pro-career

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Sabin signs deal to play in Denmark:

http://fox11online.com/sports/college/ripons-sabin-sets-sights-on-pro-career

That seems like a great opportunity for him.  It's a lower league overall, but it's first division in Denmark, which will have more exposure.  The first year in Europe is just to build a resume and if he does well, bigger clubs will come calling.

[AndOne]

Maybe the Green Knights can just work on their SoS. Granted, the conference doesn't help. Are the MWC teams ever going to go to a 25 game schedule?

Yes... I believe 25 games next season... but I will work to confirm.

The Norbert's have released a 2017-2028 schedule that indeed includes 25 games as Dave surmised.
They have done a wonderful job of padding the first half of the season with home games. The first six are all at home, followed by a road game, and then six more at home. All 7 of their non-conf games are at home.
Are they giving a nice guarantee to get all that home cooking?
Unlike last year, will this year's SOS be above that of the Wisconsin School for the Deaf and Blind?
Unlike last year, will they get an invitation to the big dance if they don't win the AQ?
Any word on any recruits besides Jared Murphy from Illinois?

[sncdangler]

Maybe the Green Knights can just work on their SoS. Granted, the conference doesn't help. Are the MWC teams ever going to go to a 25 game schedule?

Yes... I believe 25 games next season... but I will work to confirm.

The Norbert's have released a 2017-2028 schedule that indeed includes 25 games as Dave surmised.
They have done a wonderful job of padding the first half of the season with home games. The first six are all at home, followed by a road game, and then six more at home. All 7 of their non-conf games are at home.
Are they giving a nice guarantee to get all that home cooking?
Unlike last year, will this year's SOS be above that of the Wisconsin School for the Deaf and Blind?
Unlike last year, will they get an invitation to the big dance if they don't win the AQ?
Any word on any recruits besides Jared Murphy from Illinois?

If you were paying attention you'd know that outside of their holiday tournament, the "Norbert's" played all of their non-conference games on the road last year because their on-campus facility was undergoing a major facelift and played their home games at another facility across town. So those games are coming back around this year.
Surely you also realize that a team doesn't have complete control over its SOS. The MWC as a whole last year had a terrible non-conference record which killed SOS of entire league. The "Norbert's" played three WIAC schools and the defending national runner-up in four of their five non-conference games last year so I think they did their part scheduling. It's the rest of the league that needs to pick up the pace outside of conference play to make that SOS number better. Not only did the MWC get mostly pasted outside the conference but there were some really bad losses in there to boot.