MBB: Midwest Conference

[The Roop]

Roop...found the answer to your Coespiracy
http://www.ripon.edu/athletics/wbasketball/2007-08/2008-09_Schedule.html
two games at RC already that first night

Thanks for the info FK but wouldn't there be two games the next night as well ?? The plot thickens................. My money says it will eventually involve the Mayan calendar or the DaVinci code.

[Pat Coleman]

The next day is a Saturday, so you can play a 1 p.m. game where you couldn't on a Friday.

[System Error]

We have heard about all of the recruits for LU, KC, LFC and some from CC, Ripon. Do we have any updates on the recruits STN, MC, GC and IC? Does STN have anyone to replace Bieniasz? Can Grinnell continue its recent "success" without Keith Chamberlain and Schmidt from the outside? Monmouth lost their first team all conference Joe Terwelp...do they have anyone to step up in his absence? IC lost Womble who was always a solid performer. Any updates?

[pgkevin]

Along those lines, the only school who we have really heard all about in terms of recruiting is LU, the rest of the schools you mentioned we seem to have only partial information for, LFC with 2 recruits, GC with one or 2 recruits, are these all these schools have, or is it just one of those situations where the only real consistent posters we have on this board are from LU and GC. 

Personally, I'd have to imagine that all these other schools have quite a few more recruits than are being mentioned here, but because this board doesn't have the resources and sources of a board like the CCIW we are operating with limited information.  Only my opinion of course

[The Roop]

Beloit has 9 coming in but they were all bench players on their respective high school J.V. teams. Bucs won't do anything this year, probably won't even win a game. So my advice is to just look past them on your schedule.

Having said that. A.D. Kim Chandler is leaving Beloit for Macalester College next month. Beloit will still have a full time A.D. (good thinking) and the search has begun. I nominate me. Cosmetic improvements are nice but what most people care about is buying players, point shaving, running a sports book and playing off campus to attract alcohol sales. I can do all that.

Sure I'll keep it D3 (on paper)  but RoopVegas will bring in more revenue than begging for money from alums.

Win if you can, lose if you must but always cheat..................... Jesse Ventura

[System Error]

Only 1 or 2 recruits for Grinnell? Unless these players have some size, I don't see how they will be able to compete without a big like Mr. Chamberlain. I wonder what this lack of recruiting for Grinnell has come from.

[Greek Tragedy]

Anyone know what Grinnell's record was without Chamberlain in the lineup? 

[System Error]

With Chamberlain Pre-Injury:        8-1
Without Chamberlain:                  5-6
With Chamberlain after recovery:   3-1

Chamberlain wasn't completely healthy from what I understand in the last four games after his recovery. However, I believe his presence in the back of Grinnell's press may have been beneficial, considering the lack of experience from their freshman bigs.

Does anyone think it is possible that Grinnell's "Big 3" can carry the load next year? Will a year in the MWC be enough for their now sophomore bigs to contribute?

[LU_nut]

System Error: Great name.

To directly answer your question, Grinnell can and will be very compeititive without Chamerblin.  Their top three guards are all among the top 10 in the conference.  Equally important, two of them can shoot the 3 very well.   What I have noticed about GC over the years is they need to have shooters.  The team 4 years ago was bad bad bad because no one could shoot.   This group can shoot and will win their share of games.

Their system does work a lot better when they have a big guy to reduce the layups.  Chamberlin made them very good his junior year.  Nordlund played the role well before he was hurt as well.

I look for GC to be in the top 4, too much talent not to be........and this conference is still not terribly deep unless things change.   Last thing I will say is that I have always noticed that it is a benefit to have your best players be seniors.   You see it all the time.  GC will benefit from their strong senior class.

Nut

[The Roop]

The "without Chamberlain" stat is a little deceiving as they were also without Arseneau during part of that stretch. You can make adjustments when you lose a big man, especially with "The System", but when you lose your point guard it's kinda hard to fake it.

Probably looking at the same 4 in the tournament again, although the order might change a little. I'm thinking LU, St. Norbert, Carroll and Grinnell.

[System Error]

I decided to answer one of my own questions I posted earlier about Grinnell's recruting. It looks like they do have more than one or two players. Officially, on their website, they seem to have six incoming freshman. While they do have two 6-4's, they don't seem to have anyone to directly replace Chamberlain.

Xander Strek G 6-2 185 Fy. West Bloomfield, Mich./Cranbook Kingwood
Eric Ragan G 6-0 170 Fy. Lander, Wyo./Lander Valley
Matt Chalupa G 6-1 175 Fy. Overland Park, Kan./Blue Valley Northwest
Greg Fox F 6-2 180 Fy. Leawood, Kan./The Barstow School
Joe Fouche F 6-4 185 Fy. Oakwood, Ohio/Bedford
Matt Skelly F 6-4 180 Fy. Phoenix, Ariz./St. Mary's

[MWCSID2005]

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[Fort Knox]

Eric Ragan sounds like a prototype system player

A google search reveals that he is his schools all-time leader in steals and assists and second in three pointers

didnt find much on the others

[Greek Tragedy]

Carroll U's schedule is up, saw it posted in the schedules board here...

I'm reposting it on this page.

http://athletics.cc.edu/news_detail.asp?newsid=2169&teamid=310

WIAC opponents Whitewater, La Crosse, Oshkosh and Point (tentatively) all on the schedule.  Ouch.

[Gregory Sager]

I would be surprised if the Carroll @ North Park game time for November 22 is correct. Carroll has it listed as a 7 pm tipoff, but NPU home games are always 7:30 starts.