FB: USA South Athletic Conference

[PA_wesleyfan]

Is Shenandoah considering joining the ODAC for football only?
www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=39092&CHID=3&sub=

So maybe they join the CAC as a full member?? Interestiing aye!!

[hasanova]

Related to our earlier posts on the financial situation at Greensboro, President Craven Williams has "retired": 

http://www.greensborocollege.edu/about/communications/news/news-detail.cfm?customel_datapageid_8379=22554

[BTEXPRESS]

Related to our earlier posts on the financial situation at Greensboro, President Craven Williams has "retired": 

http://www.greensborocollege.edu/about/communications/news/news-detail.cfm?customel_datapageid_8379=22554

Interesting! Without knowing all the facts, but based on the circumstances, I guess that is a good move for the school. GC really needs someone who can raise alot of $$$$ in a timely fashion as their next President.

[Allen C]

[However, conference better watch out for Ferrum this season.
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Well I am hopeful!

I am curious about the tie breaker scenario in the USA South...I assume head to head is the first step...after that, what is used?

[hasanova]

However, conference better watch out for Ferrum this season.

Well I am hopeful!

I am curious about the tie breaker scenario in the USA South...I assume head to head is the first step...after that, what is used?

It's head-to-head, then head-to head against the next team in the standings all the way through the line.  If they ultimately can't decide, I think the last team to go to the playoffs gets the nod.

[Allen C]

[However, conference better watch out for Ferrum this season.

Well I am hopeful!

I am curious about the tie breaker scenario in the USA South...I assume head to head is the first step...after that, what is used?

It's head-to-head, then head-to head against the next team in the standings all the way through the line.  If they ultimately can't decide, I think the last team to go to the playoffs gets the nod.
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IS this on the USA South Website somewhere? I cat find a reference for this...Does the overall record come into play? The last team that went to the playoffs may indeed be correct, but that team may not even figure into the tie, and that would seem unfair.  Anyway, just looking for the info. Thanks!

[Pat Coleman]

Certainly in that case, it would be the team among those involved in the tie.

[hasanova]

Certainly in that case, it would be the team among those involved in the tie.

Yes, that was my implied message.  If they can't break a tie, then the last team to go to the playoffs (from among those involved in the first place tie) will get the bid.  For example, look at RMC in the ODAC's 2008 4-way tie where everyone at the top was 4-2.

[blitzer1]

I'm checking on some info about Media Day that has really gotten the MC crowd pretty upset.

According to some of the players I talked with over the weekend at MC, the USA-South football coaches voted for MC to host the 2009 Media Day.  Media Day has been at a different conference school locations since Maryville joined the conference in 2005.  However, the conference's SID's and athletic directors voted not to have it at Maryville and have it at Averett again.

Pretty sorry group if this is the case......

[Pat Coleman]

In this era of economic tightness, the Centennial Conference is dispensing with its in-person media day entirely. Having it at a more central location is better than not having one.

[ProudFightingScot]

In this era of economic tightness, the Centennial Conference is dispensing with its in-person media day entirely. Having it at a more central location is better than not having one.

The coaches are the ones who voted to have them there.  They are the ones that make appearances.  Sending a coach and maybe an SID is a 1 car trip, not a bus full of players.  If it is in Averett or in Maryville the money on the media day is still being spent.  It comes down to the few SID's not wanting to make a trip.  Why even ask the coaches??  It is obvious the conference listens to the SID's over the head football coaches.  They don't understand that by having the media days at the different colleges it promotes the conference within the local communities.  If it is an economic issue hotel rates are down and gas is $2.30 right now, it was over $4.00 a year ago.  So schools can't afford to drive a few hours and pay for 1 hotel room?  The last 4 out of the last 5 media days have been held at Methodist, Christopher Newport, NC Westlyn and Shenandoah, which are the furthest from Maryville.  The one time it is Maryville's turn all of a sudden the SID's vote it down?  Why is that??  They can't bear to drive to east Tennessee one time in 8 years?

[Allen C]

I am curious about the tie breaker scenario in the USA South...I assume head to head is the first step...after that, what is used?
[/quote]It's head-to-head, then head-to head against the next team in the standings all the way through the line.  If they ultimately can't decide, I think the last team to go to the playoffs gets the nod.
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I got the scoop from Mike Christie from the USA South Office- The playoff tie breaker rule is below. This is copied directly from Mike's email:

The football tiebreaking procedure is as follows:



                             a.  Head-to-head competition.

                             b.   Performance against higher-rated teams in Conference.

                             c.   Common opponent records.

                             d.   In the event of a three-way tie, the NCAA regional ranking following the final games will be used to break the tie between the three teams.  This will determine the Conference's automatic bid to the NCAA tournament.

                             e.   Coin toss.

[Pat Coleman]

They don't understand that by having the media days at the different colleges it promotes the conference within the local communities. 

Actually, I think an SID understands this piece better than anyone here, including coaches, athletic directors, you and me. Let's not go overboard -- clearly you don't like the decision, but even if it went down as you said, that doesn't mean it merits the exaggeration you're giving it here.

[ProudFightingScot]

Actually, I think an SID understands this piece better than anyone here, including coaches, athletic directors, you and me. Let's not go overboard -- clearly you don't like the decision, but even if it went down as you said, that doesn't mean it merits the exaggeration you're giving it here.

Well those SID's all had their school's turn at it.  We didn't.  So maybe they do understand it for their communities.  If it were your school you were following, wouldn't you be thinking how that isn't right?  Or how the coaches voted to have your school host then to have it taken away?  Why even have the coaches vote?  Obviously it doesn't matter.

[Pat Coleman]

It's just not a good year to send EVERYONE eight hours when it can be held at a more central location. Gasoline isn't the only issue when athletic departments everywhere are being asked to cut costs and one of your schools is apparently so up to its eyeballs in problems that the power company is sending a shutoff notice.

Regardless of who made the decision, it is very defensible.