FB: USA South Athletic Conference

[Scots13]

Anybody know where this Craig guy at LaGrange came from? Listed on the roster as a Jr..did he transfer in or just decided 2013 would be a great time leave the dorms to air it out in West GA?

Narch, that was one heck of a play. Reber is no joke.

Another side note: a local tv station that reported the game last weekend noted that the Averett shutout was the 171st in program history. Surprising to hear that, seeing how the program only has around 430-ish wins. That's about 40% of the wins. I might have to look at media guide and see.  Only thing for certain is, it's the second this year and hopefully not the last.

[narch]

Anybody know where this Craig guy at LaGrange came from? Listed on the roster as a Jr..did he transfer in or just decided 2013 would be a great time leave the dorms to air it out in West GA?

valdosta state transfer per the roster

[narch]

Narch, that was one heck of a play. Reber is no joke.

some ballot stuffing going on....that play is a distant third behind Lagrange and Huntington plays...neither of which was a game winner vs. a ranked opponent

[Pat Coleman]

Anybody know where this Craig guy at LaGrange came from? Listed on the roster as a Jr..did he transfer in or just decided 2013 would be a great time leave the dorms to air it out in West GA?

Valdosta is not the only place he was at. It was in Kickoff:
http://www.d3football.com/secure/2013/USAC/LaGrange/index

[DGPugh]

A few yrs back, LaGrange had a senior (5th yr i think) from Jax State (in Bama, not FLo-rida) JSU is a pretty good D1AA team. He had some stats from Jax, but on played sparingly.
He was pretty good against Huntingdon, but the Hawks could score quicker than the Panthers that day.

As i recall LaGrange and the NAIA school near them (Point University) both have a good number of transfers from D2, NAIA, ans D!AA..... sorry... i mean D1FCS

Heading the other way, Huntingdon had a RB that told folk at Huntingdon he was only going to play 2 yrs then go to Ga Southern (a perty good D1FCS program). He did, took a red shirt yr GSU, then played some at RB, but was a regular on Special teams for his final 2 yrs.
keep the faith

[Scots13]

Anybody know where this Craig guy at LaGrange came from? Listed on the roster as a Jr..did he transfer in or just decided 2013 would be a great time leave the dorms to air it out in West GA?

Valdosta is not the only place he was at. It was in Kickoff:
http://www.d3football.com/secure/2013/USAC/LaGrange/index

Must have read past it. An FCS school too? Nice. Can I say it?  A USAC Nash Nance? Whoops. Said it.

[Swish3]

Well, CNU has done it again....they beat two pretty good teams to start the season, which was a pleasant surprise, then they lose to a team they should have beaten.  I'm sorry, 85, but Methodist is not "a really good team"....you can't be humiliated on your home turf by E&H and be really good.  If you ask me, Methodist is a mediocre team w/a puncher's chance of beating a better team, given their quarterback.

Huntingdon will likely win all of their conference games, so hopefully CNU will be considered for a Pool B slot, IF they can win the rest of their games.  CNU faithful should be big fans of Salisbury and H-SC the rest of the way....if they could win their respective conferences, CNU would look a little better for Pool B consideration.

First things first, though....win out, Captains!

Or is it Pool C?  Anyway, you guys know what I mean....

[jknezek]

Well, CNU has done it again....they beat two pretty good teams to start the season, which was a pleasant surprise, then they lose to a team they should have beaten.  I'm sorry, 85, but Methodist is not a "really good team"....you can't be humiliated on your home turf by E&H and be really good.  If you ask me, Methodist is a mediocre team w/a puncher's chance of beating a better team, given their quarterback.

Huntingdon will likely win all of their conference games, so hopefully CNU will be considered for a Pool B slot, IF they can win the rest of their games.  CNU faithful should be big fans of Salisbury and H-SC the rest of the way....if they could win their respective conferences, CNU would look a little better for Pool B consideration.

First things first, though....win out, Captains!

CNU would not be considered for a Pool B, they would have to go into Pool C. Given there are only 5 Pool C bids this year, that is not a spot you want to be in. While CNU fans should certainly be rooting for Salisbury and H-SC, they would be better off hoping Huntingdon and the rest of the USASC find a couple losses.

A Pool C out of the USASC with a 1 loss team will be marginal, though CNU might have the resume if HSC and Salisbury keep winning. I would think a 1 loss team from the WIAC, MIAC, NWC would go off the table first. Those last two spots could be very competitive...

[Swish3]

There are only 5 Pool C bids this year?!?!  That's not good....

[jknezek]

There are only 5 Pool C bids this year?!?!  That's not good....

Yep. Last year there was only 1 Pool B. This year the math indicates 3 Pool B bids. Since they can't come from the A bids, they have to come from the B bids. While Pool B is abnormally large thanks to the MASCAC and SAA, as both those conferences get A bids in the next couple years, the "extras" will shift from B to A, meaning that C is more or less permanently reduced. If you want to make the playoffs, win your conference...

*** Pat if you peruse this post, third time IS the charm for getting this right. Mom always said I learned slow ***

[narch]

swish3...as much as it pains me to say, your analysis of mu as a mediocre team with a fighting chance is spot on...having watched every play of the mu/cnu game in person, though, i can tell you the better team won on saturday - perhaps cnu just didn't come to play, but they simply weren't as good as mu in any phase other than running the ball and the return game

the cnu defense was vanilla...they rushed 4 and dropped 7 into coverage, and the lack of a consistent pass rush gave reber time to pick them apart - honestly, if max had his normal game, he may have thrown for 400+...mu receivers dropped at least 4 balls, he locked in on his primary receiver and tried to force balls in instead of going through his progressions...the pick 6 he threw was a particularly bad read, and he missed open receivers on a couple of throws - the last play he made atoned him of the earlier mistakes, though

cnu's offense is so one-dimensional, that a team that is probably below average defensively (mu) actually looked ok - the captain qb play is particularly bad - morrast has a live arm, but his accuracy leaves a lot to be desired...i actually was disappointed to see him leave the game, because i thought mu had a better shot of winning with him in - the back up threw 2 picks, but one was the last offensive play of the game for cnu on 4th and 40+ - the cnu coaching staff does not seem to have much confidence in his ability to run their offense, given the play calling

cnu also had some huge penalties in bad situations and i thought the coaching staff made some questionable decisions...i wouldn't have punted 4th and 1 from the cnu 40 something late in the game...that punt was shanked and gave the monarchs a chance to win it - a short pick-up (with a mobile qb and a very good rb) could have iced it for the captains

i'm not sure my assessment of cnu would be that of a playoff team...they may well finish with a record that gets them consideration (i could see the mu loss being the only blemish on the cnu record, especially since they don't play huntingdon), but i also wouldn't be shocked if maryville and lagrange beat them

i hope that mu will do its part to make that loss look better, though...we would both like it if the monarchs didn't lose again this season

[D3MAFAN]

swish3...as much as it pains me to say, your analysis of mu as a mediocre team with a fighting chance is spot on...having watched every play of the mu/cnu game in person, though, i can tell you the better team won on saturday - perhaps cnu just didn't come to play, but they simply weren't as good as mu in any phase other than running the ball and the return game

the cnu defense was vanilla...they rushed 4 and dropped 7 into coverage, and the lack of a consistent pass rush gave reber time to pick them apart - honestly, if max had his normal game, he may have thrown for 400+...mu receivers dropped at least 4 balls, he locked in on his primary receiver and tried to force balls in instead of going through his progressions...the pick 6 he threw was a particularly bad read, and he missed open receivers on a couple of throws - the last play he made atoned him of the earlier mistakes, though

cnu's offense is so one-dimensional, that a team that is probably below average defensively (mu) actually looked ok - the captain qb play is particularly bad - morrast has a live arm, but his accuracy leaves a lot to be desired...i actually was disappointed to see him leave the game, because i thought mu had a better shot of winning with him in - the back up threw 2 picks, but one was the last offensive play of the game for cnu on 4th and 40+ - the cnu coaching staff does not seem to have much confidence in his ability to run their offense, given the play calling

cnu also had some huge penalties in bad situations and i thought the coaching staff made some questionable decisions...i wouldn't have punted 4th and 1 from the cnu 40 something late in the game...that punt was shanked and gave the monarchs a chance to win it - a short pick-up (with a mobile qb and a very good rb) could have iced it for the captains

i'm not sure my assessment of cnu would be that of a playoff team...they may well finish with a record that gets them consideration (i could see the mu loss being the only blemish on the cnu record, especially since they don't play huntingdon), but i also wouldn't be shocked if maryville and lagrange beat them

i hope that mu will do its part to make that loss look better, though...we would both like it if the monarchs didn't lose again this season

I had a chance to look at a couple of CNU games here and there and one game fully. I thought they actually did well only rushing four and playing good pass covergage in the back end. Maybe Methodist is actually better, I am sure as the season continues we will get a better picture on both teams. Now as far a the offense is concerned, I somewhat agree with your assessment, at times they can be very one dimensional, but the way the defense was playing as of late, it didn't matter.

[Swish3]

I knew it was just a matter of time until you responded, narch....given this loss, I'm not sure what to make of CNU.  By your own admission, MU played quite a bit better than CNU, yet they were barely able to squeak out a last minute victory.  However, we did agree that MU is a .500 team, or slightly above, so what does that say about CNU?  I don't know....CNU's defense didn't play as well as they had been, and their offensive issues really bit 'em this time, to which I'm not surprised.  I've made comments throughout the years about CNU needing a short, reliable passing game to keep opposing defenses honest.

I'm hoping CNU will learn from this loss and finish the season strong....hopefully, MU will continue to win and make this blemish look a little better than it does right now.  There's a lot of football left to be played, so we'll have to see what happens.

[narch]

so what does that say about CNU?

personally, i hope that by the end of the season, we're saying cnu was a pretty good team and mu was a little better

[Scots13]

so what does that say about CNU?

personally, i hope that by the end of the season, we're saying cnu was a pretty good team and mu was a little better

I agree wholeheartedly, narch.