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PrideSportBBallGuy

No credit by the coaches just to add another point about GC not finishing last, as the coaches seem to see preseason.  They already got the one conference win that historically keeps them out of last place  ;D :D

PrideSportBBallGuy

I thought about this after looking at the South Region Fan Poll.  Here is how I see the conference finishing up this year at this point and please do keep it in mind, so you all can bring it back out on me later ;D

1 CNU
2 Ferrum
3 Averett
4 Greensboro
5 Methodist
6 NCWC
7 SU
8 Marryville

I thought about doing power rankings each week too.  Just to add some volume to this board.  I don't know though.

narch

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 20, 2006, 08:55:33 PM
I thought about this after looking at the South Region Fan Poll.  Here is how I see the conference finishing up this year at this point and please do keep it in mind, so you all can bring it back out on me later ;D

1 CNU
2 Ferrum
3 Averett
4 Greensboro
5 Methodist
6 NCWC
7 SU
8 Marryville

I thought about doing power rankings each week too.  Just to add some volume to this board.  I don't know though.

crack kills...get off of it now, before it's too late...and the 'shrooms that you've been eating lately weren't meant to be eaten, either

AdmiralPapi



crack kills...get off of it now, before it's too late...and the 'shrooms that you've been eating lately weren't meant to be eaten, either
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He must of have been hanging out on Willie Nelson's bus!
Any fool can circumnavigate the world sober...it takes a real sailor to do it drunk!!!

narch

Quote from: admiralpapi on September 20, 2006, 11:11:43 PM
He must of have been hanging out on Willie Nelson's bus!

when i heard the news that they found drugs on willie nelson's tour bus, i was shocked...i mean, who would have thought that willie nelson of all people might have drugs on the bus - i heard they also found cowboy boots, a cowboy hat, a bandana, and various instruments...shocking :)

bishops...you're on the clock...tick-tock

PrideSportBBallGuy

"narc"h-
it really isn't that far fetch.  You may think it is because of where Methodist is located.  Top 3 are solid.  4 wins in the conference got greensboro tied for 3rd in 2002 and 3 wins had them tied for 3rd in 2001 (Grant it, it was the DIAC then) I can't see how anyone couldn't think that is reasonable enough. They have a QB this year actually two QB's this year.  One a highly touted player out of HS a few years ago.  Another a MEAC transfer.  (Plus what I think the most talented WR corps in the conference) Our OL shut down d3football AA DE Colby Townsend to 4 tackles 0 sacks.  That game was only close because of penalties.  No doubt in my mind 3-5 wins in the conference.  Puts them right where i said.

D3Newbie

PrideGuy

You think SU will finish ahead of Maryville?  I thought Maryville was pretty tough and had a very good WR and a pretty good QB.  I think their problems were caused more by the improved GC defense (like freshmen Wooten &  Dula) as much as anything else. One of the Scots TDs was by INT and another set up by mishandled punt snap. Of course, we will know more after a couple more games.  :-\

But I think they will finish ahead of SU and probably NCWC. And by the time they play Ferrum(10/28), Averett(10/21) and CNU(10/7), The Pride just might give them a real run for their money. The offense will definately get better as the new QBs improve their timing with the WRs and the defense really stepped up against Maryville. JMO  8)



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !

narch

#2047
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:47:03 AM
"narc"h-
it really isn't that far fetch.

All-Time Series Records
OpponentW L
Greensboro8 1

my prediction...after this year it will read 9-1, monarchs...you'll have to wait a few weeks to take the loss, though...the bishops are up next :)

D3Newbie



2006 record for Greensboro College:

Opponent          W  L 
Monarchs           0  0 

The only record that counts in this matchup until after November 4th -  ;D

The Monarchs have NEVER played this Pride team!!



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !

PrideSportBBallGuy

Narch you can't use records to compare teams.  D3Newbie got to it before I did. 2006 0-0.  Records can't be used.  Greensboro Men's Basketball Team is 27-27 against UNCG-Mens.  Using your philosphy we should be able to beat them every other team.  Its a new year. Times change

AdmiralPapi

While I agree that records can't be used to decide who is the better team this year, I have heard numerous times on this board how GC has SU's number and how SU has had CNU's number.  At 8-1 I would have to say that MC has GC's number.  I think there is a mental thing involved when a team routinely beats another.  My high school used to play Havelock High School (a team ABNRGR coached) every year from '65-'01 and we beat them twice in those 36 or so years.  There were definitely years we were more talented but never came out on top.
It seems to me that in games like this the team that has dominated the past series always seems to get some strange break in the game that makes the biggest difference.  For instance the '99 game between GC and MC.  The game was tied with roughly 30 seconds left when I overthrew my underneath reciever, it just so happened the deep reciever had run the wrong route and was there to catch the pass and take it down to around the 10 where we kick a field goal to win it as time expired.  Its just one of those football god conspiracies.
Any fool can circumnavigate the world sober...it takes a real sailor to do it drunk!!!

CNULifer

The way things are shaping up, looks like the conference race should be a good one this year. Ferrum's offense seems to be as effective as ever, Averett is showing signs of the next level in their program and CNU is back. However, Ferrum's offense is too one dimensional, and against a fast defense like CNU they will be shut down. On the other side, Averett seems to have their offense clicking with a more balanced attack. Also, not to be overlooked is Methodist. While I dont think they will win the conference, I do think they will be tough competition and spoil someone's season. As conference play gets started in the coming weeks I am excited to see just how good Averett's offense is and if CNU's defense can dominate the USA south.

Captains start Conference play against SU sept 30th.

CNU!!!!!!!

PrideFan1986

Quote from: narch on September 21, 2006, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:47:03 AM
"narc"h-
it really isn't that far fetch.

All-Time Series Records
OpponentW L
Greensboro8 1

my prediction...after this year it will read 9-1, monarchs...you'll have to wait a few weeks to take the loss, though...the bishops are up next :)


Hey Narch...you need take a look at your passing rating. With your starter and your back up you are well below our two so that is a little thing for you and also we are #23 in the nation in passing eff. and where are the Monarchs nowhere in sight.

AdmiralPapi

#2053
Now this board is getting going...it's about time.  You know I sat here and looked at the stats for both GC and MC and figured out which one had a statistical advantage and about half way through it I realize that we don't play one another for over a month and just quit.  But at this point it looks like MC rushes for a lot and gives up crazy passing yards and GC throws for a bunch but gives up huge chunks of rushing yardage so the game could be a barn burner.  It'll definitely be one I try to get to. 
With all that said,  Narch how do you think we are gonna match up with the bishops.  I've never even seen NCWC so I have no clue.
Any fool can circumnavigate the world sober...it takes a real sailor to do it drunk!!!

narch

#2054
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 21, 2006, 09:34:15 AM


2006 record for Greensboro College:

Opponent          W  L 
Monarchs           0  0 

The only record that counts in this matchup until after November 4th -  ;D

The Monarchs have NEVER played this Pride team!!



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !

sorry...i didn't realize the pride had played THIS monarch team...i missed that on the schedule...who won?

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PM
Narch you can't use records to compare teams.  D3Newbie got to it before I did. 2006 0-0.  Records can't be used. 

how else do you compare teams???...oh, i see from your next post...passer rating - yeah, i noticed that d3football.com had started to use each team's passer rating  to determine the top 25 and the bcs, massey and sagarin ratings have all followed suite :) - tell me how to compute passer rating and i'll let you use that as a point of reference for qb comparison's, but it hardly tells me anything about the TEAM in my book

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PMGreensboro Men's Basketball Team is 27-27 against UNCG-Mens.

apples and oranges, my friend...uncg played most of those games vs. gc as a d3 that was just converting from a women's college

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PMUsing your philosphy we should be able to beat them every other team.  Its a new year. Times change

the more things change, the more they stay the same

and lastly, here are a couple of interesting stats for you...note the per play averages, because i've always thought that was a telling stat:

TOTAL OFFENSE       G  Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Yds/G
4. Methodist...........  2   476  203   110   679   6.2  5 339.5
5. Greensboro..........2   145  526   149   671   4.5  7 335.5

TOTAL DEFENSE        G  Rush Pass Plys Yards  Avg  TD Yds/G
5. Methodist...........  2    95  620  146   715  4.9   4 357.5
7. Greensboro..........2   632  190  139   822  5.9   9 411.0