FB: USA South Athletic Conference

CNU85 · October 07, 2007, 08:19:14 PM

+1 for you....I feel the same way about CNU football, basketball and baseball.....

Football....round 2
Basketball......a few Sweet 16, 1 elite 8 and an overtime loss away from a final four
Baseball......3rd in world series, then 2 games to win national championship in same day...lost both...2nd place

many CNU sports are almost there.....just can't get over the hump!

I feel your pain!

abnrgr · October 07, 2007, 11:12:42 PM

CNU 54 and 85
I hear you guys and feel the passion and that's good but, stop and be grateful for what you do get.

When your boys get to the show just know and remember how hard it was to get there.

Hopefully the 07 team has the drive you guys have got.

I still hate you

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CNU85 · October 08, 2007, 11:51:09 AM

we hate you too!

narch · October 08, 2007, 02:07:30 PM

legacy posted a good poll on the pick 'em board and i thought i'd reproduce it here in case some don't see it on that board...'cause i thought it was a good question that deserved a little debate

PrideSportBBallGuy · October 08, 2007, 02:54:34 PM

Hello All-
This is offically my last post on the board. I am sick of the poor sportsmanship displayed in the conference, so I don't feel I need to post on here anymore. The conference promotes good sportsmanship, even by hanging up signs in gyms across the conference. I don't see it being displayed. Before I get really scorned by those I know will scorn me. I want to be nice.

GC I think does a good job for the conference in terms of sportsmanship. They may not have the best teams year in an year out, but the character of the teams are top notch. A GC Men's Soccer game this year the coach was yelling at the team to stop scoring, and they listenend. So a coach can tell a team to stop scoring. Someone said last year that can't happen, but indeed you are wrong. Some coaches have even said the best form of trashtalking is going in there and just playing your best. The softball team does more projects for the community than most professional football teams do. All the coaches are thankful, when fans go out of thier way at a game to show the pride they have for the team, even if they are struggling. The teams win and win with respect. When they lose they lose with dignity.

I have been an athlete at one point or another and good sportsmanship has always been preached to me. I can't sport this any longer if the conference doesn't practice what they preach. Poor sportsmanship takes away alot from the game.

This past weekend I wouldn't have been upset with CNU had they tried to run out the clock and actually scored a TD. The 45 yard FG was not needed. What is 3 more points in a blow out? The personal fouls late in the game were not needed. Winning teams do not do those kinds of things. The coach may have been mad about what happend, but some of those fouls somebody really could have gotten hurt bad.

USA is in our conference name, we should be displaying the USA as best we can, and athletics of the land as best we can. I don't think I can show up to another USASouth event until some sort of agressive action is taken to assure everyone that the USASouth practices what they preach. GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP.

Another thing CNU should not get to host the conference tournament every year. People wonder why the attendance is so great up there, well they have the most students and thier team usually makes it to the finals. I hate traveling up there. More travel for the teams is outrageous. It needs to be closer to everyone else. Sometimes it should be more about the fans, than the money.

Pat Coleman, we have bumped heads on alot of issues, I respect your opinion, but thing you need to be more accepting to others opinions even if they are wrong. This is a message board, and different opinions help keep these boards healthy.

That also goes for the rest of you, more opinions are good, not bad. This board I will miss.

I will be back again some day. Not under the name PrideSportBBallGuy, but something else. I will always root for the Pride, but years down the road, I could be elsewhere. Good luck to everyone. Maybe I will see you around sometime.

I didn't check my grammar, and right now I don't care

"Good sportsmanship is sometimes more important than good playmanship"
PrideSportBBallGuy

Pat Coleman · October 08, 2007, 03:07:27 PM

I would never quibble with a team giving a kid a chance at a long field goal to see if he can hit it in a game. If a field goal rather than a touchdown and a couple penalties drive you from the board, then I don't think there's much hope for you.

Eh-You · October 08, 2007, 03:15:13 PM

You're leaving Post Patterns b/c CNU (in your opinion) showed bad sportsmanship?? I'm missing the connection. What upsets me the most is I'd like to talk smack to you if Averett gets their first, and maybe only, win against the Pride.

ProudFightingScot · October 08, 2007, 03:17:59 PM

Just a thought... are you saying you would have rather them go for it on 4th down, possibly get it and possibly tack on another TD?? I mean that is more insulting for them to go for it b/c that really makes it look like they are running up the score. 45 yards is a long field goal and if a kicker can hit it good for them. Also, especially in a rout, there is frustration in a loss and personal fouls happen. It is the refs/coaches job to police that. I am sure they were told about the fouls and probably have a little extra running in store after practice this week for them.

footballsouthernstyle 1 · October 08, 2007, 03:27:31 PM

kicking a field goal with less than 2 min to go in a 49-21 game is bush league at best. The coach from CNU is low bread for doing that. Stuff like this usually has a way of comming back around and biting you on the BUTT.

allsky7 · October 08, 2007, 03:50:11 PM

Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:17:59 PM
Just a thought... are you saying you would have rather them go for it on 4th down, possibly get it and possibly tack on another TD?? I mean that is more insulting for them to go for it b/c that really makes it look like they are running up the score. 45 yards is a long field goal and if a kicker can hit it good for them. Also, especially in a rout, there is frustration in a loss and personal fouls happen. It is the refs/coaches job to police that. I am sure they were told about the fouls and probably have a little extra running in store after practice this week for them.

I assume (hope) the 2nd O was in the game. With two minutes remaining, I would have just run the ball on 4th down. If the first down was picked up, I would just continue to run the ball as long as G-Boro didn't stop the clock or to the point that the clock could be killed by downing the ball.
However, as a former coach, I never had a problem with a team scoring late in the game during a blowout as long as the starters were out of the game. Those kids bust their ass all week too and deserve an opportunity to play on the rare occasion they get a chance. It's an opportunity for a team on the losing end to get some players in the game too. Maybe you could argue CNU was working on their kicking game getting some other players some work. Not sure I would be so offended I would call it bush league but if I were the coach, I would not have kicked the FG. 8)

Pat Coleman · October 08, 2007, 03:52:22 PM

Previous long attempt of the season, 37.
Last field goal attempt, Week 1.
I don't see the problem in letting the guy attempt a long field goal.

ProudFightingScot · October 08, 2007, 03:56:56 PM

Quote from: allsky7 on October 08, 2007, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:17:59 PM
Just a thought... are you saying you would have rather them go for it on 4th down, possibly get it and possibly tack on another TD?? I mean that is more insulting for them to go for it b/c that really makes it look like they are running up the score. 45 yards is a long field goal and if a kicker can hit it good for them. Also, especially in a rout, there is frustration in a loss and personal fouls happen. It is the refs/coaches job to police that. I am sure they were told about the fouls and probably have a little extra running in store after practice this week for them.

I assume (hope) the 2nd O was in the game. With two minutes remaining, I would have just run the ball on 4th down. If the first down was picked up, I would just continue to run the ball as long as G-Boro didn't stop the clock or to the point that the clock could be killed by downing the ball.
However, as a former coach, I never had a problem with a team scoring late in the game during a blowout as long as the starters were out of the game. Those kids bust their ass all week too and deserve an opportunity to play on the rare occasion they get a chance. It's an opportunity for a team on the losing end to get some players in the game too. Maybe you could argue CNU was working on their kicking game getting some other players some work. Not sure I would be so offended I would call it bush league but if I were the coach, I would not have kicked the FG. 8)

Yeah it definately would be crappy (not to mention an injury risk) if they had the 1st stringers in. That said I might have tried the field goal especailly if it was the second team in. It never hurts to get game experience with the kicking game. I would wonder if it was a second team kicker in or not. I don't think they were trying to run the score up. Was CNU still passing at that time? If they were throwing to get into scoring position that would be a different story.

ProudFightingScot · October 08, 2007, 03:58:36 PM

There is a whole lot of kicker love that Pat

I agree w/ ya. Let the guy kick the ball. CNU is too busy scoring TD's this year to give him a chance to try a field goal. Poor kicker...

Pat Coleman · October 08, 2007, 04:03:04 PM

Well, call me crazy, but if someday I need to send a kid out there to make a 45-yard FG with the game on the line, I'd like it not to be his first time trying.

Looks like the second team was in on that drive, yes.

allsky7 · October 08, 2007, 04:07:21 PM

Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:58:36 PM
There is a whole lot of kicker love that Pat I agree w/ ya. Let the guy kick the ball. CNU is too busy scoring TD's this year to give him a chance to try a field goal. Poor kicker...

I guess in my view, it is just not that big a deal. If a coach has a rep for running the score up, then karma will catch up with him eventually. I've never heard that about Kelchner. 8)
I would think that losing teams have more important things to worry about. Like what can they do to improve. Before all the Pride fans jump me, I played on a Fighting Scots team that won 7 games in 3 years and coached for a number of years. I have been on both ends of this.