BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

[GreenJeans]

Ok I understand the records, all you did was give me the same information I was talking about minus the 10 wesleyan games. Capital has not had a winning season since 2001 and that was 11-10 season, they were 20-21 l dont really call that a good season although it was the most wins they have had in years. Old Westburry's past seasons were not that great either. Ramapo did have a good season last year and it seemed that they played a pretty tough schedule.

[Spence]

Ok I understand the records, all you did was give me the same information I was talking about minus the 10 wesleyan games. Capital has not had a winning season since 2001 and that was 11-10 season, they were 20-21 l dont really call that a good season although it was the most wins they have had in years. Old Westburry's past seasons were not that great either. Ramapo did have a good season last year and it seemed that they played a pretty tough schedule.

Well if NCWC wins, it would be pretty hard for their opponent not to lose. So you're saying "OMG they're 7-21", in effect penalizing NCWC for beating someone. So really, they're 7-11 in games not involving NCWC.

Capital played a challenging schedule last year and was in the winner's bracket of the OAC tournament before Otterbein beat them twice. They're not a bad club despite the record.

OW isn't the strongest opponent but it's hard to say what they have when they've only played 2 other games besides NCWC. But their schedule is such that it's hard to see them getting more than a couple wins before they start their conference play.

Almost everyone that's good has some games where they are markedly better than the other team. I think Wesleyan's good, unfortunately the USA South is basically a crapshoot. Only 12 conference games, and then the tournament has all the teams, so there's only a marginal advantage to doing well. But I think NCWC and Christopher Newport are a cut above in the league.

[narch]

usasac vs. odac - 24-12-1...still a good number of games between the conferences, including 4 this week (2 today, 2 friday)

[A.G.]

I got 3 today and the LC-NCWC DH on Friday:

LC @ GC
Ferrum @ VWC
BC @ SU

[WHEELIN WES]

Great post Spence.

BTW..Old Westbury is a much better team than their record indicates.

[Catfishncwc]

Just wanted to let you know people know that there are several former ODAC and USA South players playing independent baseball, all with different teams.  Please let me know if I have missed any


Jono Brooks (Bridgewater), Rockford Riverhawks
Joe Orgovan (Va. Wesleyan), Pensacola Pelicans
David Whigham (Va. Wesleyan), El Paso Diablos
Brett Thomas (Ferrum), Orange County Flyers
Pat Burgess, (Greensboro), AZL WinterLeague

Blake Rice from NCWC played in the South Coast League.  Not sure which team last year.

Blake played for the Macon Music....I think he reports here pretty soon.  Is Jason Sigley still playing?

Sigley "retired" from Independent ball about 2 years ago after about 6 years in Independent ball. 

[Spence]

Great post Spence.

BTW..Old Westbury is a much better team than their record indicates.

I have them as my "below .500" team from New York in the pick em. Was thinking getting rid of a team or two in their conference might give them a good shot at it, and since Bridgewater had to go and make the postseason with a losing record, I couldn't pick them.

I might have been better off taking a team that might win say 28 games and not make the postseason instead of OW though. In retrospect, Piedmont looks like an obvious choice, but I don't recall anyone picking them. But I wouldn't know who I would have picked as the other two in the South.

[NCWC]

In the major leagues does it matter who you beat?  Its all about how many wins you have to win your conference.  Eventhough, Wesleyan hasn't played regional champions or world series teams from last year they have still won 13 games.  In years past with a similar schedule their record might have been 9-8.  The team has improved upon last year so far.  The polls are set in place to create hype.  When you have three guys in double digits in stolen bases I think that deserves some recognition.  The pitching staff has a sub 3 era.  The only knock on the Bishops right now are the errors and what looks like a non-ability to play on the road.

[HighHeat]

big game today for VWC against Ferrum today, especially after the thumping they took down in fayettevile yesterday.

not sure who they are going to throw, but it seems to me as if one of the sophomores, pisula or samuels, will toe the rubber to start.

[NCWC]

How's Garner looking this year?

[Rikki_Tikki_Tavi]

Averett fell to Lynchburg by a score of 7-6 in a hard-fought game.

http://www.lynchburg.edu/x12208.xml

My boy took the loss! He's not performing up to standards, Im going to have to get on him the next time I see him.

[narch]

In the major leagues does it matter who you beat? 

i'm not going to argue that ncwc doesn't belong in the top 25, because i think they do, but this argument has MAJOR flaws - when you're comparing the teams within divisions in the major leagues, they have played the same number of games vs. each team on their schedule - there is basis for DIRECT comparison - when you're talking about comparing d3 teams across the country, most of whom have not played common opponents, let alone each other, it seems reasonable to think that strength of schedule (or "who you beat") would come into play as a means of comparison

[NCWC]

In the major leagues does it matter who you beat? 

i'm not going to argue that ncwc doesn't belong in the top 25, because i think they do, but this argument has MAJOR flaws - when you're comparing the teams within divisions in the major leagues, they have played the same number of games vs. each team on their schedule - there is basis for DIRECT comparison - when you're talking about comparing d3 teams across the country, most of whom have not played common opponents, let alone each other, it seems reasonable to think that strength of schedule (or "who you beat") would come into play as a means of comparison

Somebody come up with a South Regional poll.  The teams in the South Region have played common opponents to a certain extent.

Everything has a flaw if you look at it long enough.

[HighHeat]

VWC defeats Ferrum 8-5. Sophmore Daniel Samuels looked impressive in 5 2/3 IP to claim his first college victory.

Ferrum put together a 4 run ninth off of a couple botched balls in the outfield, but was laid to rest after VWC RHP Chris Deans came on and ended the game with a strikeout.

[A.G.]

GC used about 8 pitchers to hold LC to 5 hits in a 3-1 win Thursday.

The DH with NCWC and LC scheduled for Friday has been canceled due to expected inclement weather in the Lynchburg area.