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forheavendial4999

Quote from: Back2Back!! on May 05, 2011, 09:48:44 PM
Trae Baily?
Kenny Moreland?

Pecora?


Im not familiar with any players from 2000- to 2005 so you guys will have to throw in names from that span....


Good place to start is who was named All-American from the conference. In this case, that'll get you most of the way there.

P -- Van Sickler, Moreland, Blake Rice (NCWC), Jason Beale (F), Mike Oldham (M), Jason Dooley (A). All were All-Americans during the decade. Buddy Hernandez (NCWC) and Jayson Sigley (NCWC) finished in 2000 and were not A-A but had outstanding careers. Rob Dye (CNU) was pitcher of the year and was the ace on some really good CNU teams. Gene Yost (A) was first team all confernce twice.
1B -- Justin Franklin (F), Jess Maloney (G), Thomas Meeks (F).
2B -- Van Sickler. Beyond that, I'm way open to suggestions. Only guy with more than 1 1st team all-conference is Brian Halpin with some pretty marginal numbers. I would cast my vote for Armando Reyes (A).
SS -- Trae Bailey (CNU). Backup I'd go with Chad Anderson (A), who was first team all conference twice and 2nd in another.
3B -- Brett Thomas (F), Matt Turner (CNU), Jeremy Schutt (S). Actually leaving off an all-american, that's how loaded this position is.
OF -- Another loaded position. Dan Gleis (M) is automatic as a 4 time all conference and 2nd team AA. Jeremy Elliott (CNU) was a 1st team AA. Turner moved to OF and could be here as well. Kevin Brashears (S) has only been all conference once, but was 1st team A-A. Geoff Williams (S) was a 3 time all conference pick but the latest was 2000, and a 2nd team A-A in 2000. Ryan Anderson (S), Eddie Guessford (A) were all americans and also first-team twice. Matt Smith (NCWC) was never an all american but was 1st team four times. Another loaded spot.
C -- Jesus Adames (M), Trey Such (M)

That's 29 players. NCAA postseason limit I think is 23? (Maybe that's changed). So whoever wants to try to cut 6 names off that, be my guest! :)

Boysofsummer21

Quote from: narch on May 05, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
back2back...i think those names are pretty good...i'd like to see how bailey's career numbers stack up vs. inghram's and maybe even jesse henry from su...

van sickler is a no-brainer

brett thomas put up monster numbers for fc for a couple of years

blake rice from ncwc had a good run as a pitcher, as did yost from averett

the burgess kid from gc had a few really good offensive years, as well

here are my monarch suggestions

blake maxwell career:
pitching: 7 wins, 4 losses, 22 saves, 110.2 ip, 1.79 era, 91 k's
hitting: 154 ab, 50 hits, .325 ba, 6 hr, 40 rbi

Dan Glies,OF - no career numbers, but here are his accolades:
2000 diac/usasac rookie of the year
2002 diac/usasac player of the year, 2nd team all-american
he was probably one of the hardest working players i've seen in the diac/usasac...really a great player

ryan brandt had a really solid career for the monarchs, and he was the conference pitcher of the year in 2005, but i'm not sure he'll make the cut – here are his career numbers:
23 wins, 13 losses, 342.2 ip, 3.15 era, 294 k's, holds the mu career record with 4 shutouts

i don't have his career numbers, but jesus adames was a pretty darn good catcher – his 2003 season was pretty nice and he was a 2nd team all-american that year:
.384 ba, 10 hr, 32 rbi, 12 sb

a trio of current monarchs deserve consideration, as well:
brian inghram career numbers:
.354 ba, 20 hr, 157 rbi, 47 sb

trey such career numbers (3 years) – 2009 usasac rookie of the year, 2010 2nd team all-american
.359 ba, 32* hr, 130 rbi,
*one hr away from the mu career record, held by mike brewington, who played in the majors  

i thought that i might be overstating his career to think of lancaster, but he had a nice run:
.344 ba, 1 hr, 97 rbi, 84 sb

i think maxwell, glies and such are all legit all-decade guys, while the others merit strong consideration

Bailey numbers can be found in the CNU media guide for 2010 (they don't have one for 2011?????) and his number are better over all and he got a ton of awards. they had the same number of career RBIs and Ingram has more SB. But Bailey hit .375 for his career.

Back2Back!!

Quote from: Boysofsummer21 on May 05, 2011, 11:49:36 PM
Quote from: narch on May 05, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
back2back...i think those names are pretty good...i'd like to see how bailey's career numbers stack up vs. inghram's and maybe even jesse henry from su...

van sickler is a no-brainer

brett thomas put up monster numbers for fc for a couple of years

blake rice from ncwc had a good run as a pitcher, as did yost from averett

the burgess kid from gc had a few really good offensive years, as well

here are my monarch suggestions

blake maxwell career:
pitching: 7 wins, 4 losses, 22 saves, 110.2 ip, 1.79 era, 91 k's
hitting: 154 ab, 50 hits, .325 ba, 6 hr, 40 rbi

Dan Glies,OF - no career numbers, but here are his accolades:
2000 diac/usasac rookie of the year
2002 diac/usasac player of the year, 2nd team all-american
he was probably one of the hardest working players i've seen in the diac/usasac...really a great player

ryan brandt had a really solid career for the monarchs, and he was the conference pitcher of the year in 2005, but i'm not sure he'll make the cut – here are his career numbers:
23 wins, 13 losses, 342.2 ip, 3.15 era, 294 k's, holds the mu career record with 4 shutouts

i don't have his career numbers, but jesus adames was a pretty darn good catcher – his 2003 season was pretty nice and he was a 2nd team all-american that year:
.384 ba, 10 hr, 32 rbi, 12 sb

a trio of current monarchs deserve consideration, as well:
brian inghram career numbers:
.354 ba, 20 hr, 157 rbi, 47 sb

trey such career numbers (3 years) – 2009 usasac rookie of the year, 2010 2nd team all-american
.359 ba, 32* hr, 130 rbi,
*one hr away from the mu career record, held by mike brewington, who played in the majors  

i thought that i might be overstating his career to think of lancaster, but he had a nice run:
.344 ba, 1 hr, 97 rbi, 84 sb

i think maxwell, glies and such are all legit all-decade guys, while the others merit strong consideration

Bailey numbers can be found in the CNU media guide for 2010 (they don't have one for 2011?????) and his number are better over all and he got a ton of awards. they had the same number of career RBIs and Ingram has more SB. But Bailey hit .375 for his career.
After playing agaisnt both of these guys I think Bailey has the edge. He was a STUD both defensivley and at the plate. He always seemed to get the big hit when the game was onthe line.

narch

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 05, 2011, 11:38:19 PMThat's 29 players. NCAA postseason limit I think is 23? (Maybe that's changed). So whoever wants to try to cut 6 names off that, be my guest! :)
i'll volunteer oldham to come off the list...he had a couple of great years, but that's just it...he only had a couple of great years...too short-lived to be on an all decade team

narch

inghram and brashears honored as first team academic all-district...congrats!

http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2011/5/6/BB_0506111038.aspx

PNeal7

Here are my thoughts on a few of the accolades...

Kenny Moreland is, by FAR, the best pitcher I've seen. Despite the accolades of Van Sickler, when watching both pitch Greg does not come close to the level that Moreland was on.

I agree with Back2Back in that Bailey has the edge of Ingram. While Ingram is very, very good, Bailey was about as good as they come at the dIII level. I wouldn't even Ingram is easily the 2nd best SS after Bailey, as Henry (SU) is just as good, if not better, than Ingram.

Ryan Anderson from SU has a 2 very, very good years in the OF.

Maloney and Burgess both from GC had MONSTER junior years, but kind of fell off in their SR years.

Brett Thomas was a stud 3B. (I just recently played him in old man's softball; he can mash one of those too)

Kevin Brashears is certainly deserving of being in the OF conversation, as does Connor Madden once his collegiate career comes to a close. Both are about as good as it gets offensively.

Blake Rice and Ben Moore from NCWC deserve in the conversation, as does Matt Smith and Chris Pecora.

That's about all I can think of out of memory....Any thoughts?

forheavendial4999

Quote from: PNeal7 on May 08, 2011, 11:04:12 AM
Here are my thoughts on a few of the accolades...

Kenny Moreland is, by FAR, the best pitcher I've seen. Despite the accolades of Van Sickler, when watching both pitch Greg does not come close to the level that Moreland was on.

I agree with Back2Back in that Bailey has the edge of Ingram. While Ingram is very, very good, Bailey was about as good as they come at the dIII level. I wouldn't even Ingram is easily the 2nd best SS after Bailey, as Henry (SU) is just as good, if not better, than Ingram.

Ryan Anderson from SU has a 2 very, very good years in the OF.

Maloney and Burgess both from GC had MONSTER junior years, but kind of fell off in their SR years.

Brett Thomas was a stud 3B. (I just recently played him in old man's softball; he can mash one of those too)

Kevin Brashears is certainly deserving of being in the OF conversation, as does Connor Madden once his collegiate career comes to a close. Both are about as good as it gets offensively.

Blake Rice and Ben Moore from NCWC deserve in the conversation, as does Matt Smith and Chris Pecora.

That's about all I can think of out of memory....Any thoughts?

Of guys I saw...Jason Dooley was probably the best pitcher, though Moreland had a better overall D-III career because it was longer. Dooley was pitcher of the year over some guy named DeSalvo. I don't know if he ever amounted to anything or not. :)

I can't imagine a better hitter than Matt Turner. He and Jeremy Elliott in the same outfield was sick. The USAS seems to be a little thin up the middle in the infield, but Chad Anderson and Armando Reyes from Averett were both really good defensive players. I actually remember thinking when he was in high school that Brett Thomas would make a really good college pitcher. Threw close to 90, needed some mechanics work. Jeremy Schutt just hit everything he saw for a year. I remember thinking he would come back to earth and I guess he did...the next season!

So many good players on those teams in the early 2000s. P Doug Heagen from Ferrum was another good one, they just never had enough help. Chris Phaup had a huge 2002 WS. Rob Dye tried to throw CNU to a championship just about by himself. Threw a CG, then later closed a game and got the win and tried to start the next day and got through 4 innings with the lead but ran out of gas in the 5th and they didn't get him out soon enough. The defense really let them down and let his pitch count get up, though one of the errors was his own. Still, a bigtime effort and a really good pitcher. Not very often a guy starts 2 games in a Series and gets 3 decisions.

Ralph Turner

CNU -- the projection has you flying to Millington, but you have to like the teams you will face in a 6-team bracket!

forheavendial4999

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2011, 12:36:02 AM
CNU -- the projection has you flying to Millington, but you have to like the teams you will face in a 6-team bracket!

I wouldn't sleep on Thomas More or Franklin, assuming that's how it goes down.

Will2Win

Adios CNU...disappointing end to a good season!

rolln2

Well the season ended on sour notes for two very good USAS teams in SU and CNU.  With CNU losing the first two games it was a disappointing appearance in the NCAA tourney where expectations were high for a team that had a fantastic season.  SU I am sure feels even worse even though they had a better appearance in the regional.  Making it to championship day undefeated and then losing two w/ a trip to the DIII championship on the line, I am sure feels worse than the 0-2 CNU took.  Well the season is over for the USAS for 2011, and I am sure we all look forward to 2012.

rolln2

Three USAS players made the All-American team for 2011.  VanSickler was first team, w/ Madden making the second team, and Brashears making Honorable-Mention.  Congrats to all three on fantastic seasons.

Catfishncwc

Not sure if this was mentioned yet but I just got a letter from NCWC that Rocky Mount, NC is the new host of the Spring Conference tournaments starting 2013. 
1999 Division 3 National Baseball Champs

LTBB1971


rolln2

Has anyone heard if any of the USAS seniors got picked up to play baseball anywhere?  Whether it be indy ball or free agent tryout.