BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

h-sc bball · February 24, 2007, 09:39:23 PM

NCWS....this past mid-week your boys Pearson & Moore were your teams # 4 & 5 pitchers, pitching against VWC....They pitched a conference game today...I didn't think teams in the usas pitched their #4 & 5 in league play. Whats up with that?

Could it have been Lesure's ground out to 2nd would have been the 3rd out...all runs after then were un-earned.

go Tigers

narch · February 24, 2007, 11:55:45 PM

the monarchs came back to beat ferrum 9-2 and earn a split...i'll take it

story & box scores

h-sc bball...i can't answer you're question, but they sure were effective pitching on short rest...maybe there are injuries to the ncwc staff?? - if so, i hope it's only serious enough to last beyond next weekend

NCWC · February 25, 2007, 12:07:00 AM

Robertson was sick or hurt, he is usually the number two. There are a couple other starters that are mixed in for 3,4,5 spots. But if you have a problem im sure anyone of them will solve it when we play you this year.

hokieone · February 25, 2007, 08:09:52 AM

NCWC, All runs unearned is correct. Recreate the inning without the error and there are no runs. Batter that doubled scored on an error on 2B. Next two batters made outs and inning should have been over. It's basic baseball scoring 101. Give Averett credit , they did a great job that inning of going with the pitch and had at least 3 opposite field hits. Moreland wasn't his normal sharp self, and plate ump was really squeezing curve ball calls both ways. Pretty good baseball games, and VERY glad USA South changed the schedule as I'd otherwise be sitting in a hotel in Danville right now looking at a lot of snow falling, 3.5 hours from home.

NCWC · February 25, 2007, 09:08:20 AM

Hokie... didnt really care to much about the earned run deal...concerned with morelands performance mainly...how does loye look for AU? ROY?

h-sc bball · February 25, 2007, 10:22:01 AM

NCWC...No problem at all...since I'm a new poster and didn't know the history of your conference play it just seemed to me that everytime your boys lost to an odac team or other conference team you use the excuse that it was because we threw our #1 and you guys threw your #4 or 5....well it works the same for us....no different....when we play mid week games with a conference game to follow, you are not going to see our # 1 or 2....you may see our #3 if it's played on a Tuesday like last yr when we you beat us 1-0....had that game been played on a Wednesday you would have seen our # 4 or 5....we play on a Thursday this year and you will not see our #1, 2, or 3 as I expect the same from your team. The one thing I didn't know that I now see.... is.... that in previous years you guys played 3 conference games on the weekend which means mid week games you had to pitch your 4 or 5 or by committee.....while that is difficult to keep up a record that may get you an at large bid it also strengthen your pitching and prepared your team for tournament ball.....I'm really going to be curious on your end of the year take on going back to 2 weekend conference games.....are you planing to attend the game at Sydney this year ?....Good start on your weekend sweep...Greensboro has good some big sticks on that team.

hokieone · February 25, 2007, 01:42:08 PM

Moreland looks good this year. He had a good summer and fall, and is throwing well. He wasn't as pinpoint with his control as we're used to seeing, but everybody has a less than perfect day. He will continue to be very tough to beat. CNU seems to have deep pitching this year as a lot of guys have looked pretty good in the early going. Moreland wasn't at his best yesterday, but take nothing from Averett, they got the bat on the ball, put it in play and good things happened. All 6 runs scored for AU in one inning.

NCWC · February 25, 2007, 08:26:27 PM

The reason I keep asking about Averett and talking about 4th and 5th starters is because I would like to see a USAS south team get an at large bid for once.

hokieone · February 25, 2007, 10:19:24 PM

Loye looked okay, but I didn't see what I expected, although hard to tell much in two games. Defensively he's struggling-11 errors committed already per AU stats, and one Saturday.

George Foster · February 25, 2007, 11:38:40 PM

Middle or in,
Say goodbye,
There goes another,
Foster RBI.

My main man Tim Jourgensen told me to check out this message board here. Me and him are some D-3 Baseball Fanatics.

Catfishncwc · February 26, 2007, 09:22:38 AM

Quote from: NCWC on February 25, 2007, 08:26:27 PM
The reason I keep asking about Averett and talking about 4th and 5th starters is because I would like to see a USAS south team get an at large bid for once.

I hear you on that one. When we played in the 98 Regionals. The Dixie had three teams in the regional that year. NCWC, Methodist and Greensboro.

Catfishncwc · February 26, 2007, 02:48:30 PM

Quote from: NCWC on February 21, 2007, 03:10:55 PM
Catfish-Is burgessesseses glove holding him back any?

I would say the only thing holding him back would be his golve. He can hit the ball and shows some speed around the bases. But the guy has stone hands, they even tried to hide him in the second game in left field.
I graded his glove at below average and a fair arm. But he was 45-50 with the bat and power. Someone will take a chance on him because of his bat but he does not have a position on the field to play. Cause even if they put him in the outfield his arm is not good enough.

Jim Dixon · February 26, 2007, 03:37:06 PM

Quote from: hokieone on February 25, 2007, 08:09:52 AM
NCWC, All runs unearned is correct. Recreate the inning without the error and there are no runs. Batter that doubled scored on an error on 2B. Next two batters made outs and inning should have been over. It's basic baseball scoring 101. Give Averett credit , they did a great job that inning of going with the pitch and had at least 3 opposite field hits. Moreland wasn't his normal sharp self, and plate ump was really squeezing curve ball calls both ways. Pretty good baseball games, and VERY glad USA South changed the schedule as I'd otherwise be sitting in a hotel in Danville right now looking at a lot of snow falling, 3.5 hours from home.

The first run is earned. After Loye doubled, Loye goes to third no matter if the 2b made the out or not and eventaully scores on the balk. The official scorer credited the Loye run as earned (or it would have been noted as unearned). I can only imagine that the ball McMillian hit was behind Loye at second which allows him to advance. Alsop, the fact that Loye scored on the error leads me to believe that Loye would have advanced with out a problem. If the ball was hit in front of Loye, I would expect the scorer to consider Loye still on second for earned run purposes thus making his run unearned (unless circumstances merited advancing the runner - i.e. trying to steal third on the McMilliam play). Not quite Scoring 101 - maybe Scoring 102.

Averett 5th inning went like this:

Averett 5th - LOYE doubled to center field. MCMILLAN reached on an error by
2b; LOYE scored. SIBRIZZI popped up to 2b. MCMILLAN advanced to second on a balk.
LESUEUR grounded out to 2b; MCMILLAN advanced to third. BRAY walked. STEINRUCK
doubled to left field, RBI; BRAY advanced to third; MCMILLAN scored, unearned.
KELLUM singled to right field, RBI; STEINRUCK advanced to third; BRAY scored,
unearned. BROWN doubled, 2 RBI; KELLUM scored, unearned; STEINRUCK scored, unearned.
MOTHERSHEAD doubled to right field, RBI; BROWN scored, unearned. LOYE grounded out
to 2b. 6 runs, 5 hits, 1 error, 1 LOB.

hokieone · February 26, 2007, 08:35:43 PM

The ball was behind the runner, and I forgot the balk so the first run should properly be earned. Scoring 101.5 maybe....

. Still an ugly inning for CNU as Averett got on a roll and to their credit got the job done.

George Foster · February 26, 2007, 11:41:37 PM

George Foster says.......

I don't know much about earned runs but I sure know alot about RBI's and Home Runs. Tim Jourgensen better be glad I didn't play D-3 or I would have had that HR record.