BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

[narch]

If you have any other questions please feel free to send me a personal message on scouting.  I love talking about this stuff.

catfish, don't confine that talk to personal messages...we love reading about it

the monarchs get another 27 runs in two 7 inning games today, winning 12-2 and 15-1...i hope they saved a few hits for ferrum this weekend

tre britt pitched well  in the first game, getting the 7 inning cg, striking out 6 and allowing 2 er on 2 hits...maybe this will give him the confidence to match his stuff

josh andrade got the win in game 2, going 4 and giving up 1 er on 3 hits - white, wilkins and sholar each pitched a hitless inning to finish things off

the best thing about the games today is that the monarchs didn't have to alter their pitching plans and were able to keep the rotation in line for the weekend

obviously, mu was playing inferior competition the last few days, but 100 runs in 6 games is ridiculous in tee ball ...just imagine what mu would be doing offensively if kivett (who is hitting .407 with 6 hr and 22 rbi for uncp) were still in the lineup

[TheRightHander]

hahaha. I never said anything about records stats or anything just trying to figure out why everyone is so impressed when one guy hit 90. But if it makes you feel better I'll agree with you my stats aren't great. I'm glad you are so concerned about what I've done. Our team can't wait to start conference after playing a tough schedule against four or five ranked teams. Sure we had a rough start but It's how you finish.

are you throwing saturday or sunday this weekend I may have to make a trip to Rocky Mount and actually get you on the gun.  I actually got Batts on the gun at 91-92 two years ago as opposed to some dude saying he hits 9's.  I can not tell you how many times I hear from people this guy throws 9's and I get to the game and they are 86ish.  I actually hope you do throw that hard.  I love to get real prospects under my name so I can make some money. 

Not sure. But i do hope to see you in the stands. And i wouldn't lie about something like that.

[HighHeat]

im over the issues of the number that shows up on the radar gun. look at travis beazley, jason glushon, chris rivera, etc. these guys all throw mid to upper 80s now and rely on movement, location to get the job done.

there are not to many guys pushing the radar gun mark over 90 consistantly at the d3 level. this is where the real question lies...if they are throwing the ball over 90 on a consistent basis, why are the playing division III?

[Catfishncwc]

im over the issues of the number that shows up on the radar gun. look at travis beazley, jason glushon, chris rivera, etc. these guys all throw mid to upper 80s now and rely on movement, location to get the job done.

there are not to many guys pushing the radar gun mark over 90 consistantly at the d3 level. this is where the real question lies...if they are throwing the ball over 90 on a consistent basis, why are the playing division III?

their are not many guys who consistently are over 90.  I have been to many games this year including 4 D1 games and have not seen a 90 mph yet.  The hardest thrower I have seen is Breedlove from Lynchburg and he popped a few 88 and 89 pitches. 
I bet 90% of all pitchers at the D1 level wish they pitched in the 90's. 
I had to unlearn a stuff when I started scouting.  What makes one person successful at one level does not always translate to the next level.  I wish all the guys who play in the USA South, ODAC who put up good numbers would get drafted/signed to the next level but like I have said before numbers will get you looked at, Tools get you signed. 

[coachmilburn]

Look for Franklin & Marshall to have a 20 win season and do not be surprised to see that they might have 1 or 2 players drafted.



WINCHESTER, Va. - Shenandoah University set new school records for most runs, hits and largest margin of victory in a 32-5 non-league baseball win over Franklin & Marshall Friday afternoon.

The Hornets (15-3) scored four runs in the first, eight in the second and then a combined 10 in the middle three frames to pull away from the Diplomats (1-2).

After substituting for all but one starter, the SU reserves finished off the game with a 10-run eighth.

In all 19 position players and four pitchers saw action in the contest for the hosts.

Sophomore Greg Van Sickler (3-1) started and tossed the first six innings before giving way to three relievers. Van Sickler allowed two runs on eight hits and two walks while striking out two. He also was 3 for 5 with four RBI at the plate before being lifted for a pinch hitter in the seventh.

Shenandoah had 11 extra-base hits including three home runs (two by Scott Van Dusseldorp).

The Hornets banged out 28 hits and had 27 runs batted in off of eight F&M pitchers; none of them lasted longer than six outs.

BoxScore : http://www.su.edu/athletics/bb/current/031309.htm

[NCWC]

im over the issues of the number that shows up on the radar gun. look at travis beazley, jason glushon, chris rivera, etc. these guys all throw mid to upper 80s now and rely on movement, location to get the job done.

there are not to many guys pushing the radar gun mark over 90 consistantly at the d3 level. this is where the real question lies...if they are throwing the ball over 90 on a consistent basis, why are the playing division III?

I completely agree with you in what you are saying.  But, there comes a day when a pitcher may not be spot on with location or movement and maybe need to dial it up a little to make up for it. 86 flat and 92 flat are two different animals.  But i would take 87-88 with movement over 90-93 flat.

[Catfishncwc]

im over the issues of the number that shows up on the radar gun. look at travis beazley, jason glushon, chris rivera, etc. these guys all throw mid to upper 80s now and rely on movement, location to get the job done.

there are not to many guys pushing the radar gun mark over 90 consistantly at the d3 level. this is where the real question lies...if they are throwing the ball over 90 on a consistent basis, why are the playing division III?

All this fastball talk is still assuming the pitcher can command at least two pitches for strikes and has a secondary out pitch.  If you throw 90 and have nothing to go with that 90 FB you are out of luck.  But if you throw mid to up 8's and have command of your pitches and a secondary pitch that can get people out you will get signed trust me. 
The problem with a lot of guys who throw in the mid 8's is that with that lack of "arm strength" the secondary pitch is missing bite and ultimately that is why they are not signed.   It is all about projecting the ability to get people out at the next level not actually getting people out at the level you are playing. 
I completely agree with you in what you are saying.  But, there comes a day when a pitcher may not be spot on with location or movement and maybe need to dial it up a little to make up for it. 86 flat and 92 flat are two different animals.  But i would take 87-88 with movement over 90-93 flat.

[Catfishncwc]

Those are some huge numbers by SU.  Is it me or is their a lot of offensive in the South Region this year.  We are seeing a lot of runs being scored this year. 

[narch]

i'm hoping mother nature doesn't dominate the weekend...the usasac can't afford a wet weekend

[LTBB1971]

NCWC and Greensboro game cancelled for Saturday.  Doubleheader starting Sunday at 1100.  Hopefully weather holds up and we see John Lucas throw a good game...Hooya Bishops...Playing real great baseball.  Maybe the early beatings have made the team better.  I am sure proud of how the kids are playing and getting results.  I am crossing my fingers for sun on Sunday!

[hokieone]

   CNU and Averett now playing Sunday and Monday in Danville.

   Lots of crazy offensive numbers being put up in Southern Region, but to be fair, some of the teams surrendering those massive run and hit totals are just pathetic.  It seems that an awful lot of teams are either strong or pathetic, one  extreme or the other, with not too much in between.  "In Conference" numbers should be more realistic as USAS seems pretty balanced all things considered.

[NCWC]

im over the issues of the number that shows up on the radar gun. look at travis beazley, jason glushon, chris rivera, etc. these guys all throw mid to upper 80s now and rely on movement, location to get the job done.

there are not to many guys pushing the radar gun mark over 90 consistantly at the d3 level. this is where the real question lies...if they are throwing the ball over 90 on a consistent basis, why are the playing division III?

All this fastball talk is still assuming the pitcher can command at least two pitches for strikes and has a secondary out pitch.  If you throw 90 and have nothing to go with that 90 FB you are out of luck.  But if you throw mid to up 8's and have command of your pitches and a secondary pitch that can get people out you will get signed trust me. 
The problem with a lot of guys who throw in the mid 8's is that with that lack of "arm strength" the secondary pitch is missing bite and ultimately that is why they are not signed.   It is all about projecting the ability to get people out at the next level not actually getting people out at the level you are playing. 
I completely agree with you in what you are saying.  But, there comes a day when a pitcher may not be spot on with location or movement and maybe need to dial it up a little to make up for it. 86 flat and 92 flat are two different animals.  But i would take 87-88 with movement over 90-93 flat.

I was going on the basis they could throw their secondary pitches for strikes.  But was to tired and lazy to go back and change it.  Thank you for the heads up.  Hopefully, the extra day of rest will help our pitchers out, a lot of innings were logged this week.  Any idea who is throwing game two?  I'm assuming Shearon and Knowles should be able to throw in relief.

[coachmilburn]

So far, the teams that Shenandoah has played and was fortunate enough to put up 19 or more runs as of March 13th along with their current records :

(27) 2/18 Maine Presque Isle (0-8)
(20) 2/24 PSU-Altoona (6-6)
(22) 2/25 Eastern Mennonite University (6-9-1)
(22) 3/05 Bridgewater College (VA) (6-8)
(19) 3/07 Methodist University (13-5)
(32) 3/13 Franklin & Marshall, (PA) (1-2)

All of these teams are in SU's Region based on what I believe is a 250 mile radius of your school except Maine Presque Isle, so everyone's regional opponents will be different.

In my all of my years watching the SU teams in Winchester, this 2009 squad is the most productive by far.

Maine had a southern trip that consisted of stops with Ferrrum, Lynchburg, Roanoke, Shenandoah, Averett and Southern VA in that order which ended up being a nearly 2900 mile round trip.

Neat story about Maine Presque Isle that was in the NY Times, basically, "for the love of the game"

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/sports/baseball/01maine.html

[vabaseball]

Thanks for posting the link re: Maine Presque Isle, Coach.  Did you mean to say that Franklin and Marshall will have a 20 win season and a couple guys drafted?  Or was that really SU you were referring to?  If it's F&M I am wondering who they are going to have the 20 wins against.

[narch]

Neat story about Maine Presque Isle that was in the NY Times, basically, "for the love of the game"

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/sports/baseball/01maine.html

one of the most well-written articles i've read in a long time...thanks for sharing...if i ever see umpi playing against anyone other than mu, i'll give 'em a cheer or two