BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

[NCWC]

Who votes on the all sportsmanship team?  That players team or the whole conference?

[Catfishncwc]

After giving a good look at Bailey's stats I wanna know who he stole that base off of.  He is one slow dude, must have been a busted hit and ran. 

[HighHeat]

i have a problem with a guy getting Pitcher of the Year with an ERA of close to 6!! What!

[eraguy1975]

The pitching in the league was very very very down this season, really no quality arms. Moore getting pitcher of the year with a 5 ERA and Manfro on the 2nd team means the pitching had to be slim if these guys were getting any sort of awards. And as stated earlier, no disrespect to Trae Bailey but he was clearly NOT the player of the year. Ingrahm and Williford were better options in my opinion. Just a very down year talent wise for the USA South.

[vabaseball]

I'm going to be a little more generous than eraguy.  I think it may have been a down year performance wise, but obviously alot of the talent played in the conference last year as well -- Trae Bailey for one.

I don't think there was any one pitcher who really stood out.  Several had excellent games but were inconsistent. I think Ingrahm's rbis were very impressive. He did play 7 more games than Bailey (but not enough of a difference to account for his impressive rbi total).  He had a lower batting average, however, in both conference and non-conference games than Bailey.  And as someone pointed out, he stole a heck of a lot more bases. 

I thought Eric Cole had a pretty good year and he didn't receive any recognition.  He was first team last year. Obviously, the talent is still there but perhaps his performance was more inconsistent this year versus last.

I'm waiting to hear from Shenandoah.  I think they will feel very slighted.

[hokieone]

    Look at the in conference stats and Bailey's numbers are every bit as good as the other folks mentioned. Ingram and Williford had  great years, no question, tough call indeed.   You can argue all day with good support for a hand full of folks, but the selection was by the coaches, who know them all well.  I'm very biased as I've seen every game that Trae has played, but he has been clutch, and has suffered some from being pitched around most of the year (29 walks/hbp in 27 games). You also won't see his numbers fattened by going wild in 2-3 games against a lesser quality opponent.

  I disagree on it being a down  year talent-wise. I think it's simply a year with a boatload of outstanding hitters.  Four different third basemen put up numbers that would've put them on first team a year ago.There's no Kenny Moreland but those don't come along ever year.     Shenandoah has a bunch of guys with play station numbers, and they proved to be a legit quality club. Methodist hung 40 runs up against Shenandoah.   It has simply been a wacky numerical year and I'm glad somebody else had to make the all conference calls.


   Now we get to what matters most to all of these guys, the Tournament title.   Forget all conference teams,  Championship rings and NCAA Regional on the line-should be a dandy!

[vabaseball]

nice post... on to the tournament.

[LTBB1971]

I am going to agree on most post about POTY.  CNU SS Bailey had good numbers but a player of the year should come from a team that ended better than 5-5 in conference.  I like NCWC 3B Zollie Woodlief, NCWC CF Luke Williford or even C Dustin Proctor from Methodist.  All three of those guys were key to their teams winning conference games.

[CNU85]

I am going to agree on most post about POTY.  CNU SS Bailey had good numbers but a player of the year should come from a team that ended better than 5-5 in conference.  I like NCWC 3B Zollie Woodlief, NCWC CF Luke Williford or even C Dustin Proctor from Methodist.  All three of those guys were key to their teams winning conference games.

So, Proctor is more deserving because Methodist was 6-4? 

[coachmilburn]

Obviously with 6 teams not playing all of their 12 conference games must of had some type of influence on the selections.

The ALL-CONFERENCE selections is just 6 other coaches opinion of who they think are the best players.  Nobody ever said it would always be fair.  Looks like one team still has something to prove to the doubters.

I just wonder IF they had 2 votes (Head Coach and Assistant) from each team would help make a better representation of what more individuals thought were the best players for 1st and 2nd team.  With just 6 votes, 1 single vote can make a huge difference. 

[narch]

Look at the in conference stats and Bailey's numbers are every bit as good as the other folks mentioned.

i disagree
conference only stats

Player                       avg      r      h      2b   3b hr    rbi    tb    slg%    bb    ob%    sb-att

BAILEY, Trae, CNUB      .410    10    16    2    0    3    10    27    .692    7    .500    0-0

INGHRAM, Brian, MUB    .391    12    18    1    0    5    21    34    .739    5    .462    6-6

WILLIFORD, Luke          .444    15    24    6    0    1    15    33    .611    2    .466    11-13

overall stats
Player                         avg    r      h     2b  3b    hr    rbi    tb    slg%    bb    ob%    sb-att 
BAILEY, Trae, CNUB      .404    34    42    6    0    6    29    66    .635    24    .526    1-1 
INGHRAM, Brian, MUB    .377    41    52    5    2    8    51    85    .616    23    .471    14-16 
WILLIFORD, Luke,         .376    32    44  11    2    3    33    68    .581    8      .411    23-26 

some analysis stats
     w/ runners on     w/ 2 outs     w/ risp   w/ runner on 3rd<2 out
bailey     0.339             0.520        0.364       0.364
inghram   0.456             0.500        0.500       0.500
williford   0.377             0.409        0.370       0.370

i think these numbers show that both williford and inghram were more "clutch" than bailey, too

[narch]

So, Proctor is more deserving because Methodist was 6-4? 

no, but .385, 13 2b, 2 3b, 10 hr, 39 rbi and 12 sb's in 31 games for a team that finished ahead of cnu might be

[A.G.]

So...has anyone heard there may be a tournament starting today 

Good luck to all the teams down in Burlington.

[LTBB1971]

CNU85,
I am going to stick to my guns here because when NCWC swept Methodist at Fayettevile, they were without Proctor that weekend and it sure affected them.  With Proctor, the defense and bat from the catcher position would have been better.

I am going to agree on most post about POTY.  CNU SS Bailey had good numbers but a player of the year should come from a team that ended better than 5-5 in conference.  I like NCWC 3B Zollie Woodlief, NCWC CF Luke Williford or even C Dustin Proctor from Methodist.  All three of those guys were key to their teams winning conference games.

So, Proctor is more deserving because Methodist was 6-4? 

[LTBB1971]

How about an All-Freshman Team to recognize the newcomers?

1B - Cory Nelson (Shenandoah) - 28 G/101 AB - .356, 6 HR, 30 RBI, 34 R, 11 doubles, 3 SB
2B - Paul Jaglowski (Ferrum) - 25 G/110 AB - .409, 1 HR, 24 RBI, 21 R, 6 doubles, 11 SB
SS - No one worth mentioning
3B - Josh Perks (Methodist) - 19 G/28 AB - .250, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 9 R
C - Steven Lindemuth (CNU) - 20 G/60 AB - .333, 2 HR, 13 RBI, 6 doubles
OF - Patrick Laffin (NCWC) - 22 G/65AB - .292, 2 HR, 10 RBI, 10 R
OF - Jason Parker (Ferrum) - 13 G/39 AB - .308, 0 HR, 12 R, 3 SB
OF - Kyle Newcomb (Averett) - 27 G/85 AB - .294, 1 HR, 13 RBI, 12 R, 3 SB
DH - Trey Such (Methodist) - 33 G/111 AB - .369, 5 HR, 31 RBI, 22 R, 8 doubles, 25 BB

P - Eric Rabung (Shenandoah) 6-0, 4.15 ERA, 7 G, 39 INN, 48 HITS, 29 K's, OPP BA .308
P - Michael Mahaffey (Methodist) 2-4, 4.56 ERA, 13 G, 1 SV, 47.1 INN, 46 HITS, 45 K's, OPP BA .254
P - Jake Yocum (Shenandoah) 4-0, 3.25 ERA, 6 G, 27.2 INN, 23 HITS, 31 K's, OPP BA .223