BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

Started by narch, December 30, 2005, 10:58:27 PM

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D-BAT

#2460
If history continues to repeat itself, Averett pitching staff will have dead arms come Conference Tourney time.

Loye goes a full 9 innings while facing 41 batters, 3 BB's and 3 SO's and 2 HBP.

Sure hope those kids or someone watches their pitch counts.  Averett's #1 last year ended with a injury, correct?

41 Batters Faces based on 3.0 - 3.5 average pitches per batter = estimated 123-143 pitch count plus we are NOT even counting the amount of pitches that he threw to warm-up before the game plus the number of warm-up pitches between innings.

That's an heck'va a lot of pitches in 1 day.

Congrats to Averett University for such a fast hot start!

cnuball25

I never said such a thing...I did make an incredibly sarcastic comment though about them being challenged when they play the Roaring Lions of Penn State Fayette and the Fighting Maroons of Roanoke College. Once again in my own opinion, for what it's worth, "throwing it pretty well" does not consist of going 2-7 and ERA close to 5.00 in 2009 and a current ERA (although this will obviously drop) of over 17.00 in 2010. And this is totally off subject, but wasn't he the guy on here tooting his horn last year like he was the second coming of Nolan Ryan? I could be wrong, but I seem to remember him...

And you stand corrected, I will most certainly give a team credit...see the entire last paragraph of my previous post. But I will not, however, drop to me knees for ANY team that went 11-2 versus a schedule that Woodrow Wilson Rehab could compete with. They could easily catch fire and beat the crap out of my Captains and everyone else in the USA South, and if that happens I know I'll be eating crow for a while. But until they beat a team with a pulse they will likely continue to have skeptics. Call it "bashing", call it "dogging", whatever...I just know that if I had beat up a retarded elderly man with a walker I wouldn't necessarily expect to be given street credit for it. Just sayin'...

D-BAT

Just did a google and found this on the web and it had Loye's EPC at 141.  So 123-141 was in the ballpark.

Estimated Pitch Count Calculator

This calculator takes the values from a standard box score and estimates the pitches thrown by a pitcher.

http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/epccalc.pl

usasouthisnumber1

Quote from: cnuball25 on February 28, 2010, 10:38:26 PM
I never said such a thing...I did make an incredibly sarcastic comment though about them being challenged when they play the Roaring Lions of Penn State Fayette and the Fighting Maroons of Roanoke College. Once again in my own opinion, for what it's worth, "throwing it pretty well" does not consist of going 2-7 and ERA close to 5.00 in 2009 and a current ERA (although this will obviously drop) of over 17.00 in 2010. And this is totally off subject, but wasn't he the guy on here tooting his horn last year like he was the second coming of Nolan Ryan? I could be wrong, but I seem to remember him...

And you stand corrected, I will most certainly give a team credit...see the entire last paragraph of my previous post. But I will not, however, drop to me knees for ANY team that went 11-2 versus a schedule that Woodrow Wilson Rehab could compete with. They could easily catch fire and beat the crap out of my Captains and everyone else in the USA South, and if that happens I know I'll be eating crow for a while. But until they beat a team with a pulse they will likely continue to have skeptics. Call it "bashing", call it "dogging", whatever...I just know that if I had beat up a retarded elderly man with a walker I wouldn't necessarily expect to be given street credit for it. Just sayin'...

The only thing you seem to post are incredibly sarcastic remarks, and the only teams you constantly bring up with "1 legged shortstops" and "ghost runners" are Roanoke College and Penn State Fayette. They have yet to play Penn State Fayette, but those Fighting Maroons, who you also trash talk, beat Frostburg recently and that same team beat the powerhouse of Methodist. Greensboro, who they just swept, previously beat Lynchburg who Averett lost to. When the Yankees beat teams like the Nationals, Brewers, Royals, etc. does those game get thrown out the window because of the opposing teams record? I think not. So, you can continue to think they are playing Middle School teams and work on getting your "Street Cred" up, either way they are hot right now regardless of their schedule. Maybe if they schedule a couple of games against UNC or LSU you will give them credit, but as of right now you are giving them none and probably will continue not to.

But with all that said, it looks like the team to beat right now is NCW with a huge sweep of Shenandoah. They seem to have a good pitching staff with their lefty Knowles and some other good arms in the pen. It's going to be interesting if Shenandoah can bounce back and make some noise in the conference. With the split between Methodist and CNU it shows that both of these teams are going to be evenly matched. CNU looks to have a deep pitching staff which is normally the key to winning the conference tourney. After the first weekend of conference play it looks like it is going to be an interesting season! ;) 

cnuball25

Are the Nationals, Brewers, or Royals then considered on the same level as the Yankees after beating them?? Hell no...it's understood that in baseball anybody can be beat on any given day. Every September/October ESPN begins breaking down the Wild Card contenders. While analyzing the teams fighting for a playoff spot they often highlight the W-L record of the opponents remaining on their respective schedules. They are careful to point out which teams have a "tougher" road to the playoffs and which ones don't. Reason being...and I realize this is ground-shaking news here...playing teams on the lower end of the spectrum SHOULD result in more wins and vice versa. In professional baseball the teams (obviously) have essentially no-say in the schedule they are handed. However, if we are going to use a professional model AND the Averett philosophy, then it's only fair to assume that if granted the opportunity to create their own schedule, the Baltimore Orioles (knowing darn well that it's going to be tough to compete with the overall records of the Yankees/Bo Sox/ Rays) might try and schedule 20-30 more games against the Nationals/Indians/Royals of the baseball world in an attempt to accrue more wins. But professional baseball, unlike college, doesn't take into consideration overall strength of schedule...after all, these are paid professionals. College baseball does however, thus there is essentially no reason for stockpiling a schedule of creampuffs.

And are you seriously making the "this team beat this team, who in turn beat this team, who later turned around and knocked off this team" argument. I commend you for your research, but someone intelligent enough to look up that information should also realize how rediculous that sounds. Applying the same rules, in the year 2003 McPherson College (in football) was better than Oklahoma, USC, and LSU:

http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/story?storyId=1681332

There's a website that computes that kind of information...if I can find the stinkin' thing I'll post it on here for everyone to play with.

narch

#2465
back to baseball being played on the field....

i was disappointed the monarchs didn't get the sweep, but cnu is a good ball club...sweeping them is not an easy task - i'm not overly concerned about the #2 pitcher for mu...yet - i think britt can turn things around, and when he does, he's a tough competitor - kelly is throwing lights out right now, but i don't expect to see him get the ball as the #2 starter...coach austin has a history of wanting a reliable arm to bring out of the bullpen on saturday AND sunday, if needed...i could be wrong, but i don't expect the monarch coaching staff to make a change just yet...

the ncwc sweep of su didn't surprise me a bit, but as a monarch fan i wish it hadn't happened...i'd like ncwc to split every series except the one vs. mu :)

the averett sweep of greensboro is a little surprising, but i'm not ready to jump on the cougar bandwagon because of it...i felt coming into the season that greensboro had the most question marks - any time you can come out of a usasac weekend with 2 wins, you should feel good about your team, though, and while we can all question the quality of au's wins, we can't question the quantity...

usasouthisnumber1

Quote from: narch on March 01, 2010, 02:01:12 PM
back to baseball being played on the field....

i was disappointed the monarchs didn't get the sweep, but cnu is a good ball club...sweeping them is not an easy task - i'm not overly concerned about the #2 pitcher for mu...yet - i think britt can turn things around, and when he does, he's a tough competitor - kelly is throwing lights out right now, but i don't expect to see him get the ball as the #2 starter...coach austin has a history of wanting a reliable arm to bring out of the bullpen on saturday AND sunday, if needed...i could be wrong, but i don't expect the monarch coaching staff to make a change just yet...

the ncwc sweep of su didn't surprise me a bit, but as a monarch fan i wish it hadn't happened...i'd like ncwc to split every series except the one vs. mu :)

the averett sweep of greensboro is a little surprising, but i'm not ready to jump on the cougar bandwagon because of it...i felt coming into the season that greensboro had the most question marks - any time you can come out of a usasac weekend with 2 wins, you should feel good about your team, though, and while we can all question the quality of au's wins, we can't question the quantity...

Glad to see someone else who ONLY wants to talk about the baseball being played in the USA South.  :) Sorry CNU FAN I don't have the time to look up pointless stats and google every baseball website in America to try and back up my arguments. (Not enough hours in the day for that) All I was trying to do was simply give you perspective from someone who likes to see any team in the USA South win and not just CNU. And last I checked an important aspect of being a good team is beating the teams you are supposed to beat which Averett has done, along with every other team in the conference. So, from now on I will just disregard any of your posts because all you seem to do is try to argue and nit-pick anything and everything I say. I love the talent and the teams in the USA South and try to catch all the games I can, and I also try to give ALL the teams in the conference credit for what they do and not just support a college that I used to play for.

hokieone

                 In the end, it will all get resolved on the fields of play, assuming they dry out from the stinking snow.

                 
   

cnuball25

Not out to argue and nit-pick...I simply make rational comments and statements then back up my viewpoint with facts, which is something that I commend to the few people on here that actually do that. For years I've read this board (I think it was created my junior year at CNU...not positive though) and couldn't believe some of the empty discussions and/or arguments that have occured. When I post something on such a board as this (which is a free, public forum) I understand that all people will read it. Some could care less, some will have a negative reaction, some will have a positive reaction...and I welcome all. I feel that's the point of a message board...to express and discuss facts and feelings about whatever topic said board is about. This one happens to be about USA South baseball, and that includes everything...not just patting everybody on the butt for a job well done.

I expect various viewpoints of mine to be challenged, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Before I type anything in a public forum I make sure of two things: 1) that my spelling and grammar is correct (I don't want to come across sounding like an idiot), and 2) before I make a statement I make darn sure that I have reasonable and accurate information to back it up. It doesn't take days, hours, or even minutes to do that...it requires a solid knowledge of the game and familiarity with the conference. I hold other posts I read to the same standard and if I see something I don't agree with I question it. I don't consider that nit-picking...I consider it being an active and contributing member of a message board.

But if you and that other USA Fan (especially that guy) are going to continue to hype a team up for no reason, then you probably should disregard me. That would be a very wise move...

cnuball25

Amen hokieone...I'm tired of the white stuff.

Speaking of the Hokies, they better get all of this losing done with before the conference tournament. I was FURIOUS to see Eric Green (yea, I know he's from Winchester but still) taking the last shot in the 2nd OT instead of Delaney. I don't care if Maryland  had 3 guys on him, I want him taking that shot...and if he couldn't get it off I would try and find Hudson.

Sorry...I know that didn't have anything to do with baseball but I had to get that off my chest...

narch

cnu25...i wish everyone who posted on these boards could read your rules for posting...i don't normally give or take karma (seems kind of pointless, but i've done it a time or two), but +1 karma for you

D-BAT

Quote from: cnuball25 on March 01, 2010, 04:49:53 PM

But if you and that other USA Fan (especially that guy) are going to continue to hype a team up for no reason, then you probably should disregard me. That would be a very wise move...

"cnuball25" ... are you talking about me?

cnuball25

Narch: I completely agree...whenever I get online I tend to read a lot of college football message boards (especially the Hokie-related ones...techsideline.com is one of my favorites), and I'm starting to see this karma trend become more and more popular. I don't exactly get it either...but thank you for your karma point either way. Tomorrow is a big day for me...I have a huge business review with a major client in the morning, then I'm taking the rest of the day off to play MLB The Show 10' and begin my minor league career :) I don't do too many "nerdy" things but taking a day off from work to play The Show and NCAA Football on their respective release dates is definitely one of them. If they make the hitting in this year's edition as hard as they did last year, that karma will come in handy. I don't know if any of you guys play the PS3 baseball games, but I've always felt if they could somehow comebine the MLB 2K graphics with the MLB The Show game play/user interface, they would have one of the best sports games of all time.

CNU Fan: Yes, I was talking about you...not trying to ruffle any feathers though. I was essentially saying to you and your other Averett-loving pal that I don't plan on jumping on the bandwagon anytime soon. If my posts towards Averett annoy you I would suggest you disregard them as well much like the other guy is. I am sorry though...I should have made that more clear.

boysofsummer

CNU25,
While I agree with your process for posting I think that you do come off a bit of a snob, but hey not big deal. Good luck with your business review, if your preparation is anything like your post you should be good to go! and hope the "Show" is worth it!. As for the discussion of AU versus the world, I know some of the kids there and I think they will be competitive but not ready to crown them just yet. Now NCW looks tough, CNU and MU beat up on each other so we will have to just enjoy the coming games and see what happens.

usasouthisnumber1

Quote from: hokieone on March 01, 2010, 04:06:51 PM
                 In the end, it will all get resolved on the fields of play, assuming they dry out from the stinking snow.

                 
   

Are they really calling for more snow??? It's March now I'm ready for warm weather and lots of baseball!