BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

D-BAT · March 23, 2010, 11:25:30 AM

Quote from: BaseBallBoy_247 on March 23, 2010, 10:41:56 AM
I want to start a brief discussion. How is it that Everyone is soo high on Shenandoah and it seems to me that havent played anybody all year. look at there overall record in conference play (3-3) and then there 15 game non conference winning streak, might i add they usually win by football scores of 24-3 and 14-0 ect. This is because they never play anybody worth a crap. And of course because of there weak schedule they will still win 30 games again this year and get another at large bid that they simply do not deserve, i saw them play last year and they could swing the bats, but had no pitching and if you look at there stats from this year its obvious they have none this year either. They play CNU this weekend which im sure they will most likely get a split if there lucky, If CNU wins game 1 with Brinkman vs Van Sickler then its no doubt they will sweep the series because there #2 is garbage. If this is how you get at large bids by playing all Maryland, Pa, and NJ teams all year then i dont see why all the teams in the conference dont do the same thing! makes perfect sense to me

If SU had NO pitching last year, will you please explain to me how in the world did they win the Regional tourney to advance onto the World Series? If your statement was not asinine, then I don't know what is.

Do you have any idea why other schools in the conference do not play MD, PA and NJ schools? Because, most likely they would not qualify for "in-region" games based on 200 mile radius of the school.

At large-bids are based on "in-region" records. Look up the criteria before you post and you'll understand how the "at large bids" are determined. Reference this link ... http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6387.0

narch · March 23, 2010, 09:09:52 PM

i agree that su parlayed a weak ooc schedule into a regional birth and had a magic run at the end of the year, but please learn how to use there, their and they're correctly...d3 student-athletes are supposed to be smarter than the average bear

WMSBRGFan · March 23, 2010, 11:12:40 PM

Quote from: narch on March 23, 2010, 09:09:52 PM
i agree that su parlayed a weak ooc schedule into a regional birth and had a magic run at the end of the year, but please learn how to use there, their and they're correctly...d3 student-athletes are supposed to be smarter than the average bear

Hey Narch look over their, there coming with they'er bats and balls!!! just kidding. Everyone have a good night.

D-BAT · March 24, 2010, 12:01:09 AM

Tufts (9) Averett (1)

Washington & Lee (16) Shenandoah (11)

Tufts (3) Greensboro (17)

Southern Va. (2) Ferrum (9)

(1) 4-2 10-12 ... NCW
(2) 5-3 13-06 ... CNU
(2) 5-3 15-07 ... MU
(4) 3-3 16-05 ... SU
(4) 3-3 12-06 ... FC
(4) 4-4 17-11 ... AU
(7) 0-6 08-16 ... GB

The USA-South is 91-63 overall.

LTBB1971 · March 24, 2010, 07:46:31 PM

NCWC holds on for a squeaky win over Lynchburg today in Rocky Mount. Kaleb Wessell threw a great game and senior RHP John Child comes in for the save. Great job Bishops...next up Tufts.

Starting to get good starting pitching and solid defense...Bishops may be ready for a run. Coming to Rocky Mount this weekend is Methodist.

Falcon2720 · March 24, 2010, 08:23:46 PM

Methodist with a 16-8 win over Tufts. Looks like the monarch bats are coming alive. Should be a great match-up this weekend with Wesleyan.

1st place in the conference on the line

narch · March 24, 2010, 08:33:54 PM

inghram had a seven rbi day for the monarchs, but the story in my mind was willingham...he looked really sharp today and is rounding into a really nice 3rd starter - he gave up 2 hits and 0 er while striking out 6 in 5 ip - britt and some young relievers got hit around a bit after the monarchs went up big (13-1) - such hit another bomb...should be a great series this weekend...both games should be worth the price of admission

Falcon2720 · March 24, 2010, 08:40:35 PM

Wild win for Shenandoah over Messiah.

2 Outs bottom of the ninth, Smith strikes out and reaches first on wild pitch. A walk, infield error, and single to right wins it for the Hornets.

SU is now 17-5

D-BAT · March 24, 2010, 10:56:55 PM

Oglethorpe (1) Greensboro (3)
Oglethorpe (4) Greensboro (5)

CNU (6) Hampden-Sydney (7)

Lynchburg (7) N.C. Wesleyan (8)

Messiah (2) Shenandoah (3)

Tufts (8) Methodist (16)

Averett (17) Roanoke (5)


(1) 4-2 11-12 ... NCW
(2) 5-3 16-07 ... MU
(2) 5-3 13-07 ... CNU
(4) 3-3 17-05 ... SU
(4) 3-3 12-06 ... FC
(4) 4-4 18-11 ... AU
(7) 0-6 10-16 ... GB

The USA-South is 97-64 overall.

hokieone · March 25, 2010, 09:18:11 AM

My beloved CNU guys need to realize that while "LOB" stands for "left on base", it can also mean "left out boys", which is what is going to happen if we continue to strand runners. In the last 5 games, we've left 10, 13, 11, 9, and 9, while losing two of those and cutting it awfully close in others. The Captains have solid hitting but more timely hits will work a whole lot better. Yesterday at HSC, 13 hits resulted in only 6 runs. Verdillo struggled somewhat, which will happen when freshman pitchers cut their teeth-a painful but normal part of their learning curve, but Fleischmann was lights out again. Timely bats were the problem, not the arms. The USAS Tournament is about 3 weeks away. Everybody in this tightly packed conference hopes to get hot exactly then, and while the the time to shine is the tournament, brightening the lights now won't hurt anything. In region losses just plain hurt.

Boysofsummer21 · March 25, 2010, 01:30:40 PM

Had an open lunch today so was time to get my geek on. At the half way point (conference games only):

Team Avg Slg% OB% LOB Error Starting era relief era overall era
Averett .312 .409 .378 67 20 4.34 4.15 4.30
CNU .261 .380 .358 70 14 4.05 1.53 3.42
Ferrum .271 .382 .370 50 6 6.23 8.06 6.79
Greenboro .282 .357 .342 50 22 5.73 7.72 6.50
Methodist .342 .530 .416 76 9 4.37 1.99 3.60
NCW .325 .481 .420 52 14 3.58 6.06 4.33
Shen .275 .325 .356 52 10 5.64 5.40 5.54

usasouthisnumber1 · March 25, 2010, 01:56:04 PM

Quote from: Boysofsummer21 on March 25, 2010, 01:30:40 PM
Had an open lunch today so was time to get my geek on. At the half way point (conference games only):

Team Avg Slg% OB% LOB Error Starting era relief era overall era
Averett .312 .409 .378 67 20 4.34 4.15 4.30
CNU .261 .380 .358 70 14 4.05 1.53 3.42
Ferrum .271 .382 .370 50 6 6.23 8.06 6.79
Greenboro .282 .357 .342 50 22 5.73 7.72 6.50
Methodist .342 .530 .416 76 9 4.37 1.99 3.60
NCW .325 .481 .420 52 14 3.58 6.06 4.33
Shen .275 .325 .356 52 10 5.64 5.40 5.54

Thanks for the post Boysofsummer these are a bunch of great stats. And it seems to me that runners LOB have been a problem for CNU, Averett, and Methodist. You have to be able to get those timely hits to win the big games!

Boysofsummer21 · March 25, 2010, 04:01:22 PM

Some further observations:

Teams riding one arm:
Averett 69 ip - starters = 56 ip (Loye = 33 ip) relief = 13 ip with hall =7 ip
SU 50.1 ip - staters = 30.1 (VanSickler = 21.1 ip) releif = 20 ip with Stenanowiz = 8 ip

Teams riding a small group of arms:
CNU 71 ip - Starters 53.1 ip (2 starters) releif = 17.2 ip but Malvagna & Fleischmann = 12.2 ip
Ferrum 53 ip - Starters = 34.2 Relief = 18.1 relief is by really group of 4
MU 70 ip starters = 47.1 ip relief = 22.2 with kelly, brit ande white = 19.1 ip
NCW 54 ip starters = 37.2 relief = 16.1 with Child = 10 ip and Wall with 4 ip

Teams looking for hep in the pen
Greensboro 54 ip staters= 33 ip relief = 21 relief by student body (10)

If Averett can reduce the errors they will be dangerous. Loye may need a walker to get to the mound during the tourney - and you know he will still go at least 8 quality innings!
CNU pitching is getting the job done so if the hitting comes around watch out
SU better find another starter or two
Ferrum is just solid all around right now. nothing special as a individual stat but team stats really good
Methodist is a solid well coached ball club and they can hit
NCW they are starting to get better pitching and we know they can hit
Greensboro don't really know but they have some good arms.

D-BAT · March 25, 2010, 07:51:37 PM

Ferrum (14) Bridgewater (3)

Tufts (11) NC Wesleyan (4)

St. Josephs L.I. (13) Shenandoah (35)

13-14-1 ... St. Josephs
35-33-1 ... Shenandoah

Only two errors in a game with a score like that is unbelievable.

(1) 4-2 11-13 ... NCW
(2) 5-3 16-07 ... MU
(2) 5-3 13-07 ... CNU
(4) 3-3 18-05 ... SU
(4) 3-3 13-06 ... FC
(4) 4-4 18-11 ... AU
(7) 0-6 10-16 ... GB

The USA-South is 99-64 overall.

hokieone · March 25, 2010, 08:12:32 PM

Good grief, Shenandoah wins over..whoever, 35-13. Nice to pull the big guns in the 8th when they were barely up, 27-13. Nice touch there. Maybe they worried the bullpen couldn't hold the lead. So some of those 30 or so jayvee players couldn't have gotten into this one?? If I was paying $36,000 a year for a jayvee baseball player to go to SU, I'd sure ponder over this a little bit.

Just for kicks, I computed a couple interesting numbers: SU is hitting, before today's organized BP, .352. They are hitting .275 in conference games, and .379 in nonconference games. 104 points higher...

Yes, SU can surely hit, and yes, they have some very well-skilled players, but some of this is just silly. I can't imagine it's so hard to schedule nonconference teams that have a pulse. Salisbury, Mary Washington, York, Washington and Jefferson, Rowan-there really are some northern schools not all that terribly far away...if you want to play someone with a pulse. 3 hours isn't a horrible trip on a weekday, and other schools do it all the time.

On this year's schedule, SU has two nonconference away games against respectable competition: Randolph Macon and Bridgewater. Perhaps a third as EMU, undoubtedly scheduled as an excuse to got to Wood Grille in Harrisonburg, is actually playing pretty good baseball this year. 27-13 before the before pulling the big guns against a weak northern cold weather school that has played 12 games? That's awful.

55 players x $36,880 (from SU website)= $2,028,400.00 from the baseball players! For 2 million dollars, surely those boys deserve to travel to play some decent nonconference opposition. SU has some talented players, and they deserve a better shake on their nonconference schedule.