BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

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Boysofsummer21

Looking at it from a strictly conference only statistical point of view this would be my take. Does not take into account reputation and is based strictly on BA, OP%, SLG and 6 games played min. This does not look at other things as fielding, RBIs etc. IMHO feel you need to be in the top 4 of you position or you don't really have a shot.

First base
Bell – Shenandoah
Lindemuth  - CNU
Catherina – Greensboro
Younger – Methodist

Second Base
Van Sickler – Shenandoah
Shoemaker – CNU
Mitchell – Averett
Minch – Shenandoah

Third Base
Newcomb – Averett
Finnegan – Greensboro
Nelson – Shenandoah
McGrath – Ferrum

Short Stop
Krout – Shenandoah
Rahm – NCWC
Jaglowski – Ferrum
Steel – CNU

Catcher
Neeb – Shenandoah
Holloway – Ferrum
Clark – NCWC
Such – Methodit

Outfield
Bashears – Shenandoah
DeHaven – Shenandoah
Kidd – Averett
Davis – Methodist
Crump – Ferrum
Madden – CNU
Higgins – Averett
Donofrio – Shenandoah

Debate is welcome

PNeal7

I know Conference Statistics play a lot, but that will certainly not be the final All-Conference Standings. Matt Shoemaker will be certainly be 1st Team 2b, and Connor Madden will just as easily be a 1st Team OF. Also, I'd put Trey Such higher up on the C list given his name and reputation. My only other quesion is how do you have 2 guys from SU on the list for 2b? Last time I checked, only 1 person gets to play 2b. Van Sickler will be the utility guy again.

Boysofsummer21

Shenandoah has Van Sickler for 6 games and the other when he pitches and this was just a statisical look so 2 2bman! know it is funny but the min was 6 games

Will2Win

Quote from: PNeal7 on April 01, 2011, 02:06:41 PM
I know Conference Statistics play a lot, but that will certainly not be the final All-Conference Standings. Matt Shoemaker will be certainly be 1st Team 2b, and Connor Madden will just as easily be a 1st Team OF. Also, I'd put Trey Such higher up on the C list given his name and reputation. My only other quesion is how do you have 2 guys from SU on the list for 2b? Last time I checked, only 1 person gets to play 2b. Van Sickler will be the utility guy again.

He wasnt saying that would be the order of the All-Conference voting, he was saying that's how the players at each position rank who have played in atleast 6 games based on the listed criteria. I agree Shoemaker will be first team 2 bagger, such will atleast go honorable mention, and van sickler will be utility(along with POTY if he wins his start tomorrow at CNU).

Boysofsummer21

Bossman,
Thanks I was just saying that the top 4 would be the true canidates. This is not my selections just a list to start the discussion. The 2 2bs from Shenandoah would never be considered but from a statisicial view they both meet the criteria.

PNeal7

I understand. I did not mean for my comments to come across as aggresive. I know your rankings was a mere conference games only statistical look at things. As you also noted, it did not take into account reputation. This just shows you how other factors play into the voting. Bossman - See you in Newport News tomorrow?

Will2Win

Quote from: PNeal7 on April 01, 2011, 03:00:02 PM
I understand. I did not mean for my comments to come across as aggresive. I know your rankings was a mere conference games only statistical look at things. As you also noted, it did not take into account reputation. This just shows you how other factors play into the voting. Bossman - See you in Newport News tomorrow?

I dont know man, thats a loooong trip to make...but I just might be there haha. How long does it take you??

PNeal7


rolln2

Well I see SU held on to win 3-1 at RMC.  It is getting close as the SU/CNU matchup is coming in just a few hours.  Hopefully the good lord will keep the bad weather away, and the boys from the USAS will put on a good show for the fans.  Also this weekend the tradition rich matchup of MU/NCW should also be a good one.

D-BAT

#3219
Neeb is the dude!

Gotta give a shout out to the VMI staff for not giving Neeb a shot there.  Neeb wanted to play baseball and made a great choice in transferring to SU and went to the dance in his 1st year.  How 'bout that!  

Furthermore, he won the job eventually for the Winchester Royals of the Valley League summer team and it was quite obvious that he should of been the starter over the other D1 guys from day one.

Will2Win

Well, SU takes care of game 1 as usual 12-7 and they still have their ace in line for tomorrow it appears as Van Sickler didnt throw today....hmmmmm   ;D

Richard of Funchester

SU does what it needs to do today.  One win away from the #1 seed in the conference tournament  Surprised that Van Sickler did not throw today, I will never question Coach Anderson.  Vince struggled, but the rest of the pen did what they needed to do to win.  SU sticks stayed consistent today as they have all season, looks like tomorow could be another big day for the Hornets.  Rumor has it, Van Sickler did not throw today because he threw 6 innings earlier this week.

BMoore#4

Ncwc gets spanked today.  I'm sure that will allow c long two hours of sleep tonight.    You would think that more coaches would help.  But not this  year.  From talking to some of players there is no caring of winning or losing there.    Maybe we turn it around Tom.   Sad just to know we are fighting not to finish last in the conf.    Not the ncwc ball I'm use to

CafeBordeaux

I'm going to agree with you Richard, after playing for Kevin Anderson, I will NEVER question a coaching decision he makes.  I've seen many more decisions work out well for the Hornets than not so I will never doubt Coach A.  On the other hand, I will doubt the CNU student fan base and their tactics today (a select few of them at least).  Very classless on their part to be making comments to an opposing Coach.  But Vince Claudio threw well today and I thought was pulled too soon, but like I said, I will never question a Coach Anderson decision, especially a pitching change.  The bullpen did come in and do a very good job with the likes of Stefanowicz, Hendrickson, and Scallion.  Whatever Clint DeHaven's pregame routine was today, he needs to repeat it for every game from here on out.  Today was the most locked in I have ever seen him at the plate, and even against the CNU left hander.  Brashears had another solid performance out of the lead off slot for the Hornets.  Pre-Season All American Greg Van Sickler will get the nod for the Hornets tomorrow and you know will give a great effort, like always.  Looks to be another exciting game tomorrow, can't wait.  Hoping for a Hornets sweep!

hokieone

    SU played a very complete game, earning the W, and there isn't any room to nitpick-they got timely pitching, clutch hitting, and good defense. CNU hit a stretch of "long fly ball-itis" in innings 6-8 and it hurt.   The Captains will need to pick it up today if they want a split. They have seen and hit  Van Sickler previously  so I hope the experience of having seen him for 3 years will serve them well, but he's a tough pitcher with great control.
   
    What a great crowd-estimate was around 1,000 and that sounds right. SU travels well and seemed to account for roughly 25% of the folks there. Lots of CNU blue and I'm told the internet audio and video coverage was excellent-kudos to the CNU Sports folks...

    I'm a CNU fan obviously but regret the ill-advised heckling of Coach Anderson.  I know college baseball has a tradition of witty heckling, and I've heard plenty of hilariously funny stuff through the years, but that was  out of line, whatever your sentiments for SU's head coach. Unfortunately he reacted to it-while I understand why, you just can't do  that-and that seemed to fan the flames. I agree it was out of line.