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From D3baseball.com: "Last weekend nothing was settled between the top two teams in the D3baseball/NCBWA Top 25. Shenandoah split their USA South conference series with Christopher Newport and the Hornets stay at number one for the third straight week while the Captains remain one spot behind in second."

Catfishncwc

Glad they both stayed on top of the boards.  All splitting  those 2 games meant was that the #1 and #2 were just that the #1 and #2 battling it out.   Can't wait for the conference tourney and then regionals it will be fun.   
1999 Division 3 National Baseball Champs

cnu13

Quote from: bossman on April 05, 2011, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: cnu13 on April 05, 2011, 10:56:55 AM
let me start out by saying that this weekend's games were great. SU and CNU both fought hard. Now moving onto the topic really at hand. Coach Anderson(sorry for saying his name to all of the people who dont want his name out here but lets be honest, you can find out who he is just about anywhere online) threatening CNU students. Maybe what people were saying was over the top(but that doesn't mean its not true, who really knows what happened), but calling out students and telling them to "bring your best 5"(which for those of you who dont know what that means, it means he wanted to fight). It was completely inappropriate and unprofessional. It is a shot to his character, him as a person, his family, and his program. That was completely out of line and then what i saw which might not have been noticed by anyone else but he then yelled at his player who was on 3rd base. It was a line drive to shallow CF and Shannon Mark made a great play and came up ready to throw. Anderson gave him a huge earful about getting back to the bag and tagging up. I wish he would have gone, because while Shannon has a good arm, he made the play about 30 feet behind the 2nd base bag and it would have been a double play. There are  times to yell at your players, but when you are pissed off at the fans of the other team(and grow up, its #1 v. #2, fans are going to say things, have some class), you dont have to take it out of the base runner, when he was actually in the right. So to all the SU fans out there that are going to try to break this down and say how wrong i am, let me say this, SU baseball program is a very good program but guess what, so is CNU's. There is a reason while we both at #1, and #2. And if you guys are going to tell me, 1, your fans dont stop yelling and 2, if this game was a home game for you guys, your fans wouldn't have acted the same way, then shame on you. Why cant we all just say that it was a great weekend, full of 2 great baseball games, and leave it at that. Why don't the fans stay in the stand, the coaches and players stay focused on the game, and leave it at that. Im done reading this message board cuz i know so many bias fans will come back with stupid comments and honestly, i don't believe have of the things written on here. I wouldn't have written this if the SU fans wouldn't have started this so congrats guys....who looks classy now. You took this away from baseball and now its about your coach's actions and our fans. Why dont you make a new thread and bash on CNU on there and keep this one about baseball? just a thought.......

You want to get on here and rant and rave about a topic that hasnt been talked about in the last 5-6 posts and then you want to play the "who looks classy now" card???? Get out of here man, you're trying to stir up the pot again. Let it be...Numerous people were in the wrong this past weekend and it is what it is. Do yourself a favor and delete your account, as you're posts carry no meaning or legitimacy after a worthless post like your last. If I were a CNU fan i'd be proud to stand beside your "classy self"....ha, get real.

Great idea bud, come out and attack me personally. im glad you know who i am and you know me so well. Grow up. If its not an issue, let it go. if it is(which it obviously is to you cuz you are so pissed about it) then lets talk about it. Were you even there? Did you hear everything? There are a couple of options im gonna go with. you were on the team(and if you are, you shouldn't be posting on here. doesn't your coach advise against it?) #2 you are a parent and were on the other side and didnt hear any of it. you just know what other people said. Or 3, you weren't there. So which one is it? Im thinking #1 cuz im pretty sure i know who you are.

Will2Win

Quote from: cnu13 on April 05, 2011, 05:39:47 PM
Quote from: bossman on April 05, 2011, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: cnu13 on April 05, 2011, 10:56:55 AM
let me start out by saying that this weekend's games were great. SU and CNU both fought hard. Now moving onto the topic really at hand. Coach Anderson(sorry for saying his name to all of the people who dont want his name out here but lets be honest, you can find out who he is just about anywhere online) threatening CNU students. Maybe what people were saying was over the top(but that doesn't mean its not true, who really knows what happened), but calling out students and telling them to "bring your best 5"(which for those of you who dont know what that means, it means he wanted to fight). It was completely inappropriate and unprofessional. It is a shot to his character, him as a person, his family, and his program. That was completely out of line and then what i saw which might not have been noticed by anyone else but he then yelled at his player who was on 3rd base. It was a line drive to shallow CF and Shannon Mark made a great play and came up ready to throw. Anderson gave him a huge earful about getting back to the bag and tagging up. I wish he would have gone, because while Shannon has a good arm, he made the play about 30 feet behind the 2nd base bag and it would have been a double play. There are  times to yell at your players, but when you are pissed off at the fans of the other team(and grow up, its #1 v. #2, fans are going to say things, have some class), you dont have to take it out of the base runner, when he was actually in the right. So to all the SU fans out there that are going to try to break this down and say how wrong i am, let me say this, SU baseball program is a very good program but guess what, so is CNU's. There is a reason while we both at #1, and #2. And if you guys are going to tell me, 1, your fans dont stop yelling and 2, if this game was a home game for you guys, your fans wouldn't have acted the same way, then shame on you. Why cant we all just say that it was a great weekend, full of 2 great baseball games, and leave it at that. Why don't the fans stay in the stand, the coaches and players stay focused on the game, and leave it at that. Im done reading this message board cuz i know so many bias fans will come back with stupid comments and honestly, i don't believe have of the things written on here. I wouldn't have written this if the SU fans wouldn't have started this so congrats guys....who looks classy now. You took this away from baseball and now its about your coach's actions and our fans. Why dont you make a new thread and bash on CNU on there and keep this one about baseball? just a thought.......

You want to get on here and rant and rave about a topic that hasnt been talked about in the last 5-6 posts and then you want to play the "who looks classy now" card???? Get out of here man, you're trying to stir up the pot again. Let it be...Numerous people were in the wrong this past weekend and it is what it is. Do yourself a favor and delete your account, as you're posts carry no meaning or legitimacy after a worthless post like your last. If I were a CNU fan i'd be proud to stand beside your "classy self"....ha, get real.

Great idea bud, come out and attack me personally. im glad you know who i am and you know me so well. Grow up. If its not an issue, let it go. if it is(which it obviously is to you cuz you are so pissed about it) then lets talk about it. Were you even there? Did you hear everything? There are a couple of options im gonna go with. you were on the team(and if you are, you shouldn't be posting on here. doesn't your coach advise against it?) #2 you are a parent and were on the other side and didnt hear any of it. you just know what other people said. Or 3, you weren't there. So which one is it? Im thinking #1 cuz im pretty sure i know who you are.

Ha, Well you're obviously way off and you have no idea who I am actually. Not on the team, not a parent, just a fan. Doesn't piss me off that you're bad mouthing Coach A for his actions. Heck, maybe he deserves to be scolded for his actions. All i'm saying is the situation had not been topic for conversation in the most recent 5-6-7 posts and i'm pretty sure everyone BUT YOU had decided to let it go. Obviously you have no class, coming on here just to bash the guy after it was said and done. I'm pretty sure I was telling you to let it go, if that's a personal attack then so be it. So, as I previously posted "Grow up" and if you're gonna keep posting on here, the least you could do is attempt to come across as someone with more than a 3rd grade education as you peck on that keyboard of yours  (now, that one may have been a little personal). Later guy.

hasanova

After reading the last few pages, I say we should make English the official language of this forum.  :)

narch

Quote from: hasanova on April 05, 2011, 06:44:41 PM
After reading the last few pages, I say we should make English the official language of this forum.  :)
wishful thinking :)

to throw my $.02 into the cnu heckling situation...IF what has been alleged here on these boards is accurate (please read IF as large as you possibly can), then the conference should step in and issue a suspension to the coach who is allegedly involved...maybe one or two games - i mean, when you log on to the usa south site, you get a "got sportsmanship" video - if the allegations are accurate (or even close to accurate), nothing on either side of that situation speaks to sportsmanship - the conference needs to send a message and issue a suspension - i would also suggest that the folks at cnu should do their best to find out who the culprits in the crowd were, and issue a punishment of its own...something similar...maybe keeping the fan(s) responsible out of the ball park for a couple of games

on to baseball...i was happy to see the monarchs pull out a sweep...sunday wins have been hard to come by this season for mu - vwc @ vwc on wednesday...mu needs another non-conference win going into the final conference weekend

BigPoppa

Quote from: hasanova on April 05, 2011, 06:44:41 PM
After reading the last few pages, I say we should make English the official language of this forum.  :)

And maybe some punctuation lessons thrown in for good measure? :)
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

PNeal7

Getting the board back to baseball topics, as Narch began to do, who is everyone looking at as their 1st Team All Conference Selection at each position? I'll do some research, and post my 2 cents (as if anyone cares about that) later on today.

PNeal7

I found some time this morning to review numbers, and this is my anticipated 1st Team Selections. At some positions, I list multiple guys as I'm not sure at that position.

C - Trey Such : Methodist
1B - Nick Beall : SU / Steven Lindenmuth : CNU
2B - Matt Shoemaker : CNU
3b - Cory Nelson : SU
SS - Rahm : NCWC / Krout : SU / (potentially Ingram, due to his reputation)
OF - Kevin Brashears : SU
OF - Connor Madden : CNU
OF - Clint DeHaven : SU / Travis Crump : FC
DH - Caleb Dorton : FC
Util - Greg Van Sickler : SU
SP - Greg Van Sickler : SU
SP - Greg Goldsmith : CNU
RP - Ryan Fleischman : CNU
Player Of The Year - Kevin Brashears : SU
Pitcher Of The Year - Greg Goldsmith : CNU / (Van Sickler's name may get him this award)
Rookie Player Of The Year - Billy Steel CNU
Rookie Pitcher Of The Year - Andrew Womble : MU

Now, I understand that the vast majority of my picks are SU and CNU, and I don't even have some teams represented. However, I think it is 100% clear that SU and CNU are the class of the USAS, and will/should dominate the all conference selections.

Boysofsummer21

#3279
PNeal 7,
Very good list and I agree in total.

1B I think Beall should get the nod
SS I think Rahm will get it because they need other teams on the list
OF Crump for the 3rd OF
Pitcher of the year - Goldsmith should get it but think it will go to Van Sickler (unless he struggles this weekend)
POY - 2 way race between Brashears and Shoemaker with Brashears taking it

Now as to this being loaded with SU and CNU I think that is indicative of the year with SU and CNU being natioanl 1 and 2 and in conference them being the far and away 1 and 2. But with that said I think that a few of the people on the list will get snubbed because they will want more schools represented. But IMO this list is very solid.

PNeal7

BoysofSummer - I agree completely. I figured Rahm would get the nod at SS, in order to get NCWC on the board. I also believe a few individuals will get snubbed due to the fact they generally try to have a representative sample of the entire conference; not just CNU/SU. We can also agree on the Pitcher Of The Year. At this exact point in time, I believe Goldsmith should get the nod, but that Van Sickler will get the nod due to his name/reputation. However, if he struggles this weekend in anyway, I see Goldsmith potentially jumping him. As much as I believe Shoemaker and Madden both deserve significant consideration in the Player Of The Year Award, I believe Brashears will take this due to his above .500 average in-conference, and his reputation.

In reality, we could great the entire 1st Team All Conference w/ CNU and SU players and have a very, very, very solid All Conference Team.

D-BAT

Quote from: narch on April 05, 2011, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 05, 2011, 06:44:41 PM
After reading the last few pages, I say we should make English the official language of this forum.  :)
wishful thinking :)

to throw my $.02 into the cnu heckling situation...IF what has been alleged here on these boards is accurate (please read IF as large as you possibly can), then the conference should step in and issue a suspension to the coach who is allegedly involved...maybe one or two games - i mean, when you log on to the usa south site, you get a "got sportsmanship" video - if the allegations are accurate (or even close to accurate), nothing on either side of that situation speaks to sportsmanship - the conference needs to send a message and issue a suspension - i would also suggest that the folks at cnu should do their best to find out who the culprits in the crowd were, and issue a punishment of its own...something similar...maybe keeping the fan(s) responsible out of the ball park for a couple of games

on to baseball...i was happy to see the monarchs pull out a sweep...sunday wins have been hard to come by this season for mu - vwc @ vwc on wednesday...mu needs another non-conference win going into the final conference weekend

Spot on Narch!

The sportsmanship video is about as popular as a hot garlic nut sundae!   :o

narch

i know everyone is probably tired of reading about blake maxwell, but here is an article from the fayetteville observer...blake is certainly getting some fantastic opportunities, like pitching in a big league park following beckett, reyes, bard and papelbon

http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/04/06/1083854

here is the box-score from that game:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_03_30_bosmlb_houmlb_1&mode=gameday

Catfishncwc

Quote from: narch on April 06, 2011, 02:15:48 PM
i know everyone is probably tired of reading about blake maxwell, but here is an article from the fayetteville observer...blake is certainly getting some fantastic opportunities, like pitching in a big league park following beckett, reyes, bard and papelbon

http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/04/06/1083854

here is the box-score from that game:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_03_30_bosmlb_houmlb_1&mode=gameday

We can never get tired of reading about USAC guys doing well in the pros.  Hell any news of USAC guys inthe pros is welcomed.  Wish we would have these all the time for a lot of players. 
1999 Division 3 National Baseball Champs

cnu13

Quote from: bossman on April 05, 2011, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: cnu13 on April 05, 2011, 05:39:47 PM
Quote from: bossman on April 05, 2011, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: cnu13 on April 05, 2011, 10:56:55 AM
let me start out by saying that this weekend's games were great. SU and CNU both fought hard. Now moving onto the topic really at hand. Coach Anderson(sorry for saying his name to all of the people who dont want his name out here but lets be honest, you can find out who he is just about anywhere online) threatening CNU students. Maybe what people were saying was over the top(but that doesn't mean its not true, who really knows what happened), but calling out students and telling them to "bring your best 5"(which for those of you who dont know what that means, it means he wanted to fight). It was completely inappropriate and unprofessional. It is a shot to his character, him as a person, his family, and his program. That was completely out of line and then what i saw which might not have been noticed by anyone else but he then yelled at his player who was on 3rd base. It was a line drive to shallow CF and Shannon Mark made a great play and came up ready to throw. Anderson gave him a huge earful about getting back to the bag and tagging up. I wish he would have gone, because while Shannon has a good arm, he made the play about 30 feet behind the 2nd base bag and it would have been a double play. There are  times to yell at your players, but when you are pissed off at the fans of the other team(and grow up, its #1 v. #2, fans are going to say things, have some class), you dont have to take it out of the base runner, when he was actually in the right. So to all the SU fans out there that are going to try to break this down and say how wrong i am, let me say this, SU baseball program is a very good program but guess what, so is CNU's. There is a reason while we both at #1, and #2. And if you guys are going to tell me, 1, your fans dont stop yelling and 2, if this game was a home game for you guys, your fans wouldn't have acted the same way, then shame on you. Why cant we all just say that it was a great weekend, full of 2 great baseball games, and leave it at that. Why don't the fans stay in the stand, the coaches and players stay focused on the game, and leave it at that. Im done reading this message board cuz i know so many bias fans will come back with stupid comments and honestly, i don't believe have of the things written on here. I wouldn't have written this if the SU fans wouldn't have started this so congrats guys....who looks classy now. You took this away from baseball and now its about your coach's actions and our fans. Why dont you make a new thread and bash on CNU on there and keep this one about baseball? just a thought.......

You want to get on here and rant and rave about a topic that hasnt been talked about in the last 5-6 posts and then you want to play the "who looks classy now" card???? Get out of here man, you're trying to stir up the pot again. Let it be...Numerous people were in the wrong this past weekend and it is what it is. Do yourself a favor and delete your account, as you're posts carry no meaning or legitimacy after a worthless post like your last. If I were a CNU fan i'd be proud to stand beside your "classy self"....ha, get real.

Great idea bud, come out and attack me personally. im glad you know who i am and you know me so well. Grow up. If its not an issue, let it go. if it is(which it obviously is to you cuz you are so pissed about it) then lets talk about it. Were you even there? Did you hear everything? There are a couple of options im gonna go with. you were on the team(and if you are, you shouldn't be posting on here. doesn't your coach advise against it?) #2 you are a parent and were on the other side and didnt hear any of it. you just know what other people said. Or 3, you weren't there. So which one is it? Im thinking #1 cuz im pretty sure i know who you are.

Ha, Well you're obviously way off and you have no idea who I am actually. Not on the team, not a parent, just a fan. Doesn't piss me off that you're bad mouthing Coach A for his actions. Heck, maybe he deserves to be scolded for his actions. All i'm saying is the situation had not been topic for conversation in the most recent 5-6-7 posts and i'm pretty sure everyone BUT YOU had decided to let it go. Obviously you have no class, coming on here just to bash the guy after it was said and done. I'm pretty sure I was telling you to let it go, if that's a personal attack then so be it. So, as I previously posted "Grow up" and if you're gonna keep posting on here, the least you could do is attempt to come across as someone with more than a 3rd grade education as you peck on that keyboard of yours  (now, that one may have been a little personal). Later guy.

ok matt. thanks for the feedback bud.


on to something i care about. what do you guys feel will happen with the polls for next since cnu just lost to bridgewater? do you think one game is deserving of a huge drop?