BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

[narch]

Guess that's why we're all allowed to have our opinions Narch   

absolutely...but sometimes you have to ask yourself "is my opinion rooted in fact?"

[hokieone]

No surprise here-CNU goes to #1, getting every first place vote.

   Nice for the scrap books, but it amounts to a big bull's eye. Much work to be done to be able to battle through the Regionals. And of course. Let's hope Methodist can join CNU and SU.....

[PNeal7]

Congratulations to Coach Harvell, Frazier, Wissinger, and the CNU Captains on the #1 ranking.

[Will2Win]

Congrats to CNU and good luck until ya meet SU again in regionals 

[Boysofsummer21]

Congrats to CNU. Now Methodist needs to get down to business and run the table.

Do have a question based on the following miles.

Winchester to Millington = 804 miles
Winchester to Cortland (New York Reg) = 332 miles
Winchester to Union NJ (Mid Atlantic) = 268 miles
Winchester to Marietta OH (Mideast) = 270 miles

Do you still think they will send SU to the South Regionals?

[Will2Win]

Congrats to CNU. Now Methodist needs to get down to business and run the table.

Do have a question based on the following miles.

Winchester to Millington = 804 miles
Winchester to Cortland (New York Reg) = 332 miles
Winchester to Union NJ (Mid Atlantic) = 268 miles
Winchester to Marietta OH (Mideast) = 270 miles

Do you still think they will send SU to the South Regionals?

I would sure hope not, but I dont know the policy on this...It would be a shame if two of the top 5 teams in the nation had to battle it out in regionals, instead of potentially having a showdone in Appleton if both were sent to seperate regions with a chance for each to advance on..  

As hokieone (I believe) pointed out the SU/CNU rivalry is looking more and more like the yanks/bosox, each and every game is an all out battle with one team getting it done and pulling away in the late innings in each of the 4 meetings thus far! Would be great if they were both given a chance to win a seperate region! Says alot about the USASC.

[PNeal7]

I agree. I would think/hope that one team gets sent to a different region. It would be a shame to put both of them in the same tournament, forcing one of them to go home after regionals.

Wouldn't it be an amazing show to see CNU match up against SU in Appleton?

[Back2Back!!]

I agree. I would think/hope that one team gets sent to a different region. It would be a shame to put both of them in the same tournament, forcing one of them to go home after regionals.

Wouldn't it be an amazing show to see CNU match up against SU in Appleton?

I do believe I would have to make that trip if they both get there.

[Back2Back!!]

Guess that's why we're all allowed to have our opinions Narch   

absolutely...but sometimes you have to ask yourself "is my opinion rooted in fact?"

Yours is just an opinion  .......Neeb has a 100 point higher batting avg than such but according to you batting average is overrated. He throws a higher percentage of runners out and according to you thats misleading. So it seems as if your trying to convince yourself that your opinion is a fact

[forheavendial4999]

Congrats to CNU. Now Methodist needs to get down to business and run the table.

Do have a question based on the following miles.

Winchester to Millington = 804 miles
Winchester to Cortland (New York Reg) = 332 miles
Winchester to Union NJ (Mid Atlantic) = 268 miles
Winchester to Marietta OH (Mideast) = 270 miles

Do you still think they will send SU to the South Regionals?

I would sure hope not, but I dont know the policy on this...It would be a shame if two of the top 5 teams in the nation had to battle it out in regionals, instead of potentially having a showdone in Appleton if both were sent to seperate regions with a chance for each to advance on..  

Polls are not ground truth. That will not be a consideration. After this weekend, you'd have a tough time convincing me that Shenandoah should be a favorite to win a regional anywhere. Really not a sterling performance, and they split with CNU in the regular season so it was obviously no fluke.

It is possible, though I would say far from likely, that Shenandoah will go to another regional. It will likely depend on whether they can stock the South regional with a couple of teams from the Central. I would count on the SLIAC champion going to Millington, for instance, even though Bloomington IL is closer. It would help tons with filling the region if Rhodes or someone else other outside Texas won the SCAC.

It seems pretty unpredictable who will be in what region right now, other than the regional hosts. It seems the regionals may be less regional than usual.

Right now your purely regional South region might look something like this:
CNU, Shenandoah, Piedmont, Methodist, Bridgewater, (Rhodes). This would be a great regional for Methodist to host. Did anyone from the "east" South submit a package to host? Millington has an excellent facility though. As it is, I doubt all of those teams end up in Millington.

[Will2Win]

Congrats to CNU. Now Methodist needs to get down to business and run the table.

Do have a question based on the following miles.

Winchester to Millington = 804 miles
Winchester to Cortland (New York Reg) = 332 miles
Winchester to Union NJ (Mid Atlantic) = 268 miles
Winchester to Marietta OH (Mideast) = 270 miles

Do you still think they will send SU to the South Regionals?

I would sure hope not, but I dont know the policy on this...It would be a shame if two of the top 5 teams in the nation had to battle it out in regionals, instead of potentially having a showdone in Appleton if both were sent to seperate regions with a chance for each to advance on..   

Polls are not ground truth. That will not be a consideration. After this weekend, you'd have a tough time convincing me that Shenandoah should be a favorite to win a regional anywhere. Really not a sterling performance, and they split with CNU in the regular season so it was obviously no fluke.

It is possible, though I would say far from likely, that Shenandoah will go to another regional. It will likely depend on whether they can stock the South regional with a couple of teams from the Central. I would count on the SLIAC champion going to Millington, for instance, even though Bloomington IL is closer. It would help tons with filling the region if Rhodes or someone else other outside Texas won the SCAC.

It seems pretty unpredictable who will be in what region right now, other than the regional hosts. It seems the regionals may be less regional than usual.

Right now your purely regional South region might look something like this:
CNU, Shenandoah, Piedmont, Methodist, Bridgewater, (Rhodes). This would be a great regional for Methodist to host. Did anyone from the "east" South submit a package to host? Millington has an excellent facility though. As it is, I doubt all of those teams end up in Millington.

So you, like many others are all of a sudden turned off by Shenandoah's poor performance over ONE weekend out of the year...they've been in the top 10 all year and they are very capable of winning a regional tourney. It's all about who can get hot at the right time, this past weekend it wasn't SU. Big deal...they're not playing their best ball at this point. If they can right the ship and get back to executing and just playing the game they'll be just fine and i'd go out on a limb and put my money on them to win a region....along with CNU as both teams are very capable of doing so! Some ppl amaze me on here.

AND...not to mention it's not like they were blown out in any of the games they've lost all year. They blew a late lead twice against CNU and CNU pulled away with 6 in the 8th or 9th in the first W over SU in the tourney, up to that point it was a highly competitive game. Just saying...

[narch]

Yours is just an opinion 

backed by fact (statistics)

Neeb has a 100 point higher batting avg than such but according to you batting average is overrated. He throws a higher percentage of runners out and according to you thats misleading. So it seems as if your trying to convince yourself that your opinion is a fact

that's interesting math

345 - 328 = 100

the next time i try to buy something for 328 dollars, i'm going to give the clerk 345 and ask for 100 dollars back - do you think i'll get it???

mathematical difficulties aside, baseball today is all about two things – run production and run prevention – i'll take a .300 hitter who produces runs over a .400 hitter who doesn't 8 days a week – as evidenced by statistics (runs+hr+rbi/games), neeb does not produce as many runs per game as such (he trails by .13 runs produced/game....which equates to approx 5.2 runs over 40 games), despite being surrounded by an offensive team which is superior to the team around such – ops comparison (on base% + slugging %) tells us (factually) that such is on base more often, and when he is on base, he is hitting with more power (power=run production) , so who cares if neeb has a ba that is .017 higher if he's doing nothing with it? the only argument that you can make is that he cycles the lineup more frequently, but if you extrapolate neeb's .12 hits/game lead over such out to 40 games, that means fewer than 5 times throughout a 40 game season that the lineup was extended...given su's runs/hit ratio and team ba, that means these extra at-bats would produce approx. 1.25 additional runs over the course of the season for shenandoah ([311/404]*[4.8*0.339])– the additional team run production is hardly worth the drop in individual run production (5.2 > 1.25)

i've already shown you why the defensive statistics mean little

all of this goes back to the statement that neeb was "hands down the best catcher in the conference" – based on statistical analysis, there is no basis for this (in my opinion, statistics=fact...unless they are being used in an argument against me )

[narch]

Congrats to CNU. Now Methodist needs to get down to business and run the table.

Do have a question based on the following miles.

Winchester to Millington = 804 miles
Winchester to Cortland (New York Reg) = 332 miles
Winchester to Union NJ (Mid Atlantic) = 268 miles
Winchester to Marietta OH (Mideast) = 270 miles

Do you still think they will send SU to the South Regionals?

i seem to remember a "500 mile" deal with the ncaa...like, they try to avoid trips longer than 500 miles, if possible, but i could be wrong

if that is the case, i could see any of those sites getting su - i personally think su and cnu SHOULD be split, geography and travel aside – those two teams are clearly capable of being a #1 through #3 seed in EVERY region and it would be sad to see them in the same region – in my perfect world, SU would get sent to the Mideast or New York region, CNU would be sent to the Mid Atlantic region, the monarchs would win out and be sent to the South region and the WS would have a chance to get 3 USASAC teams...not gonna happen, i know, but one can dream, right

[gr8day4bsbll]

Right now your purely regional South region might look something like this:
CNU, Shenandoah, Piedmont, Methodist, Bridgewater, (Rhodes). This would be a great regional for Methodist to host. Did anyone from the "east" South submit a package to host? Millington has an excellent facility though. As it is, I doubt all of those teams end up in Millington.

Bridgewater, huh?  That's an interesting choice, since the ODAC tourney doesn't even start until tomorrow, and Bridgewater only finished in 1st in the regular season by one game.  They're not the lock that everyone seems to think (and weren't last year either, since they came out of the loser's bracket to win two in the ODAC finals last year).  It's anyone's guess who wins the ODAC this year, as each team in the tournament showed they can beat any of the other five this season...so don't count on the Eagles just yet...

[Will2Win]

Right now your purely regional South region might look something like this:
CNU, Shenandoah, Piedmont, Methodist, Bridgewater, (Rhodes). This would be a great regional for Methodist to host. Did anyone from the "east" South submit a package to host? Millington has an excellent facility though. As it is, I doubt all of those teams end up in Millington.

Bridgewater, huh?  That's an interesting choice, since the ODAC tourney doesn't even start until tomorrow, and Bridgewater only finished in 1st in the regular season by one game.  They're not the lock that everyone seems to think (and weren't last year either, since they came out of the loser's bracket to win two in the ODAC finals last year).  It's anyone's guess who wins the ODAC this year, as each team in the tournament showed they can beat any of the other five this season...so don't count on the Eagles just yet...

Yeah, that is true but I believe BC has the best staff in the ODAC and that should go a looooong way in the tourney. Although I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Randy Mac win it either.