BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

[Will2Win]

forheavendial4999--

From the looks of your last few posts it seems like someone's getting a little agitated...don't let a message board get your feathers ruffled now, bud.   

[vabaseball]

Actually I don't think forheavendial4999 has a dog in this fight, but instead is an impartial and knowledgeable follower of D3 baseball.

[Will2Win]

Actually I don't think forheavendial4999 has a dog in this fight, but instead is an impartial and knowledgeable follower of D3 baseball.

Doesn't mean someone can't get a little agitated. Just giving him a hard time anyway.

[Back2Back!!]

I had a longer message but got timed out, so I'll just say...

If you need someone's opinion on a message board to motivate you in an NCAA regional, there's a problem.

Didnt say it was needed, just said it gives a little extra motivation. Either way your previous post has pretty much said the same thing that has been said for the last two years. I think in order for Shenandoah to be the favorite or to get the respect that they deserve they are going to have to have an undefeated season. You have to take into consideration that they have won a regional the past two years and have 5 starters who played significant innings on those teams. They have experience and thatmeans alot in a Regional. There top four starters ALL pitched at the regional last year. So even if Shenandoah isnt the one seed in there region, I would still consider them the favorite. They know what it takes to get there and oh yeah..........they have someone who knows a liiiiittttttlllllee bit about the game and what it takes to win  standing in thet hird base coaches box  

Boy for your sake you better hope your team is not as cocky as you are.

That the same coach that ran them into 5 outs on the bases against Averett in the first 4 innings? That game shouldn't have even been close but overaggressiveness nearly opened the door to an upset. I'm starting to suspect this is the coach or his wife or something with all the hoopla about his amazing coaching.

And my opinion should give Shenandoah's players no extra motivation because none should be needed. There shouldn't be room for any. They should already be maxed out on motivation.

I could name all the coaches that have more experience winning Division III college baseball games, but I don't have that much time. He's about 1100 behind the all-time leader, though.

What exactly did I say that makes me look so cocky other than Shenandoah has more experiance with regional tournaments? I said their coach knows what it takes to get there and obviously he does becaus ehe has been there the last 2 years. If I came off cocky I apolgize. Its just a little frustrating when you accomplish something and people still doubt you. Im sure you can find coaches who have more experiance in division 3, this is his 9th year in division 3. But this isnt about him, this is about people like you trying to find reasons why Shenandoah wont win a regional. I agree that they should be motivated enough already and Im sure they are. They are the defending South Region Champs. If you see that someone is doubting you wouldnt that make you want even more?

[narch]

this is as good a time to start looking at this as any...

mu has an 18-11 (.621) regional record vs. opponents who have a .516 regional record - the monarchs are just 5-8 vs. regional opponents above .500 regional (with 6 of those 8 losses coming to presumably the top 2 teams in the region) - as i study this, i'm thinking 4 wins is more important than ever, especially since emory is currently 23-11 in region, rmc is 16-15 in region and salisbury is 20-10 in region...

the monarch non-region schedule is really where they have shone...9-2 vs. opponents who are winning at a .564 clip and 7-2 vs. teams with above .500 overall records...unfortunately, those don't really matter much - keystone is on a roll, winning 12 of their last 15 and stands at 17-9 overall - tufts has won 14 straight and is 17-4-1 overall (including 1-3-1 in the usasac) - swathmore is 17-11, berry is 18-12, suny purchase is 15-10...the monarchs faired pretty well against all of those teams (they out scored these opponents a combined 91-12)

does anyone know when birmingham southern is eligible for d3 playoffs?

[BigPoppa]

this is as good a time to start looking at this as any...

mu has an 18-11 (.621) regional record vs. opponents who have a .516 regional record - the monarchs are just 5-8 vs. regional opponents above .500 regional (with 6 of those 8 losses coming to presumably the top 2 teams in the region) - as i study this, i'm thinking 4 wins is more important than ever, especially since emory is currently 23-11 in region, rmc is 16-15 in region and salisbury is 20-10 in region...

the monarch non-region schedule is really where they have shone...9-2 vs. opponents who are winning at a .564 clip and 7-2 vs. teams with above .500 overall records...unfortunately, those don't really matter much - keystone is on a roll, winning 12 of their last 15 and stands at 17-9 overall - tufts has won 14 straight and is 17-4-1 overall (including 1-3-1 in the usasac) - swathmore is 17-11, berry is 18-12, suny purchase is 15-10...the monarchs faired pretty well against all of those teams (they out scored these opponents a combined 91-12)

does anyone know when birmingham southern is eligible for d3 playoffs?

Birm-Southern is cleared next year. I'd love to see them in the mix this year with the team they returned.

[forheavendial4999]

this is as good a time to start looking at this as any...

mu has an 18-11 (.621) regional record vs. opponents who have a .516 regional record - the monarchs are just 5-8 vs. regional opponents above .500 regional (with 6 of those 8 losses coming to presumably the top 2 teams in the region) - as i study this, i'm thinking 4 wins is more important than ever, especially since emory is currently 23-11 in region, rmc is 16-15 in region and salisbury is 20-10 in region...

the monarch non-region schedule is really where they have shone...9-2 vs. opponents who are winning at a .564 clip and 7-2 vs. teams with above .500 overall records...unfortunately, those don't really matter much - keystone is on a roll, winning 12 of their last 15 and stands at 17-9 overall - tufts has won 14 straight and is 17-4-1 overall (including 1-3-1 in the usasac) - swathmore is 17-11, berry is 18-12, suny purchase is 15-10...the monarchs faired pretty well against all of those teams (they out scored these opponents a combined 91-12)

does anyone know when birmingham southern is eligible for d3 playoffs?

Birm-Southern is cleared next year. I'd love to see them in the mix this year with the team they returned.

They're gonna be good in the future too.

[forheavendial4999]

I had a longer message but got timed out, so I'll just say...

If you need someone's opinion on a message board to motivate you in an NCAA regional, there's a problem.

Didnt say it was needed, just said it gives a little extra motivation. Either way your previous post has pretty much said the same thing that has been said for the last two years. I think in order for Shenandoah to be the favorite or to get the respect that they deserve they are going to have to have an undefeated season. You have to take into consideration that they have won a regional the past two years and have 5 starters who played significant innings on those teams. They have experience and thatmeans alot in a Regional. There top four starters ALL pitched at the regional last year. So even if Shenandoah isnt the one seed in there region, I would still consider them the favorite. They know what it takes to get there and oh yeah..........they have someone who knows a liiiiittttttlllllee bit about the game and what it takes to win  standing in thet hird base coaches box  

Boy for your sake you better hope your team is not as cocky as you are.

That the same coach that ran them into 5 outs on the bases against Averett in the first 4 innings? That game shouldn't have even been close but overaggressiveness nearly opened the door to an upset. I'm starting to suspect this is the coach or his wife or something with all the hoopla about his amazing coaching.

And my opinion should give Shenandoah's players no extra motivation because none should be needed. There shouldn't be room for any. They should already be maxed out on motivation.

I could name all the coaches that have more experience winning Division III college baseball games, but I don't have that much time. He's about 1100 behind the all-time leader, though.

What exactly did I say that makes me look so cocky other than Shenandoah has more experiance with regional tournaments? I said their coach knows what it takes to get there and obviously he does becaus ehe has been there the last 2 years. If I came off cocky I apolgize. Its just a little frustrating when you accomplish something and people still doubt you. Im sure you can find coaches who have more experiance in division 3, this is his 9th year in division 3. But this isnt about him, this is about people like you trying to find reasons why Shenandoah wont win a regional. I agree that they should be motivated enough already and Im sure they are. They are the defending South Region Champs. If you see that someone is doubting you wouldnt that make you want even more?

Here's the thing though: you haven't accomplished anything this season yet.

And no...generally speaking, I don't care what other people think I can or can't do.

I'm not trying to find a reason for anything.

Mental note: in the future, don't say anything that Shenandoah fans might not like unless you want to be verbally accosted.

[Back2Back!!]

I had a longer message but got timed out, so I'll just say...

If you need someone's opinion on a message board to motivate you in an NCAA regional, there's a problem.

Didnt say it was needed, just said it gives a little extra motivation. Either way your previous post has pretty much said the same thing that has been said for the last two years. I think in order for Shenandoah to be the favorite or to get the respect that they deserve they are going to have to have an undefeated season. You have to take into consideration that they have won a regional the past two years and have 5 starters who played significant innings on those teams. They have experience and thatmeans alot in a Regional. There top four starters ALL pitched at the regional last year. So even if Shenandoah isnt the one seed in there region, I would still consider them the favorite. They know what it takes to get there and oh yeah..........they have someone who knows a liiiiittttttlllllee bit about the game and what it takes to win  standing in thet hird base coaches box  

Boy for your sake you better hope your team is not as cocky as you are.

That the same coach that ran them into 5 outs on the bases against Averett in the first 4 innings? That game shouldn't have even been close but overaggressiveness nearly opened the door to an upset. I'm starting to suspect this is the coach or his wife or something with all the hoopla about his amazing coaching.

And my opinion should give Shenandoah's players no extra motivation because none should be needed. There shouldn't be room for any. They should already be maxed out on motivation.

I could name all the coaches that have more experience winning Division III college baseball games, but I don't have that much time. He's about 1100 behind the all-time leader, though.

What exactly did I say that makes me look so cocky other than Shenandoah has more experiance with regional tournaments? I said their coach knows what it takes to get there and obviously he does becaus ehe has been there the last 2 years. If I came off cocky I apolgize. Its just a little frustrating when you accomplish something and people still doubt you. Im sure you can find coaches who have more experiance in division 3, this is his 9th year in division 3. But this isnt about him, this is about people like you trying to find reasons why Shenandoah wont win a regional. I agree that they should be motivated enough already and Im sure they are. They are the defending South Region Champs. If you see that someone is doubting you wouldnt that make you want even more?

Here's the thing though: you haven't accomplished anything this season yet.

And no...generally speaking, I don't care what other people think I can or can't do.

I'm not trying to find a reason for anything.

Mental note: in the future, don't say anything that Shenandoah fans might not like unless you want to be verbally accosted.

I will agree that they havent accomplished anything THIS year. Im simply telling you that everything that you have said about Shenandoah has been said the last two years. What exactly have I said that a Shenandoah fan would be upset about? Any Shenandoah fan who reads these boards are used to having people talk about why they wont win a regional and if there a true Shenandoah fan I'm sure they feel the same way that I do.

[forheavendial4999]

I had a longer message but got timed out, so I'll just say...

If you need someone's opinion on a message board to motivate you in an NCAA regional, there's a problem.

Didnt say it was needed, just said it gives a little extra motivation. Either way your previous post has pretty much said the same thing that has been said for the last two years. I think in order for Shenandoah to be the favorite or to get the respect that they deserve they are going to have to have an undefeated season. You have to take into consideration that they have won a regional the past two years and have 5 starters who played significant innings on those teams. They have experience and thatmeans alot in a Regional. There top four starters ALL pitched at the regional last year. So even if Shenandoah isnt the one seed in there region, I would still consider them the favorite. They know what it takes to get there and oh yeah..........they have someone who knows a liiiiittttttlllllee bit about the game and what it takes to win  standing in thet hird base coaches box  

Boy for your sake you better hope your team is not as cocky as you are.

That the same coach that ran them into 5 outs on the bases against Averett in the first 4 innings? That game shouldn't have even been close but overaggressiveness nearly opened the door to an upset. I'm starting to suspect this is the coach or his wife or something with all the hoopla about his amazing coaching.

And my opinion should give Shenandoah's players no extra motivation because none should be needed. There shouldn't be room for any. They should already be maxed out on motivation.

I could name all the coaches that have more experience winning Division III college baseball games, but I don't have that much time. He's about 1100 behind the all-time leader, though.

What exactly did I say that makes me look so cocky other than Shenandoah has more experiance with regional tournaments? I said their coach knows what it takes to get there and obviously he does becaus ehe has been there the last 2 years. If I came off cocky I apolgize. Its just a little frustrating when you accomplish something and people still doubt you. Im sure you can find coaches who have more experiance in division 3, this is his 9th year in division 3. But this isnt about him, this is about people like you trying to find reasons why Shenandoah wont win a regional. I agree that they should be motivated enough already and Im sure they are. They are the defending South Region Champs. If you see that someone is doubting you wouldnt that make you want even more?

Here's the thing though: you haven't accomplished anything this season yet.

And no...generally speaking, I don't care what other people think I can or can't do.

I'm not trying to find a reason for anything.

Mental note: in the future, don't say anything that Shenandoah fans might not like unless you want to be verbally accosted.

What exactly have I said that a Shenandoah fan would be upset about?

English is a second language for you, isn't it?

Done with this. Enjoy your season, however long it lasts.

[Back2Back!!]

I had a longer message but got timed out, so I'll just say...

If you need someone's opinion on a message board to motivate you in an NCAA regional, there's a problem.

Didnt say it was needed, just said it gives a little extra motivation. Either way your previous post has pretty much said the same thing that has been said for the last two years. I think in order for Shenandoah to be the favorite or to get the respect that they deserve they are going to have to have an undefeated season. You have to take into consideration that they have won a regional the past two years and have 5 starters who played significant innings on those teams. They have experience and thatmeans alot in a Regional. There top four starters ALL pitched at the regional last year. So even if Shenandoah isnt the one seed in there region, I would still consider them the favorite. They know what it takes to get there and oh yeah..........they have someone who knows a liiiiittttttlllllee bit about the game and what it takes to win  standing in thet hird base coaches box  

Boy for your sake you better hope your team is not as cocky as you are.

That the same coach that ran them into 5 outs on the bases against Averett in the first 4 innings? That game shouldn't have even been close but overaggressiveness nearly opened the door to an upset. I'm starting to suspect this is the coach or his wife or something with all the hoopla about his amazing coaching.

And my opinion should give Shenandoah's players no extra motivation because none should be needed. There shouldn't be room for any. They should already be maxed out on motivation.

I could name all the coaches that have more experience winning Division III college baseball games, but I don't have that much time. He's about 1100 behind the all-time leader, though.

What exactly did I say that makes me look so cocky other than Shenandoah has more experiance with regional tournaments? I said their coach knows what it takes to get there and obviously he does becaus ehe has been there the last 2 years. If I came off cocky I apolgize. Its just a little frustrating when you accomplish something and people still doubt you. Im sure you can find coaches who have more experiance in division 3, this is his 9th year in division 3. But this isnt about him, this is about people like you trying to find reasons why Shenandoah wont win a regional. I agree that they should be motivated enough already and Im sure they are. They are the defending South Region Champs. If you see that someone is doubting you wouldnt that make you want even more?

Here's the thing though: you haven't accomplished anything this season yet.

And no...generally speaking, I don't care what other people think I can or can't do.

I'm not trying to find a reason for anything.

Mental note: in the future, don't say anything that Shenandoah fans might not like unless you want to be verbally accosted.

What exactly have I said that a Shenandoah fan would be upset about?

English is a second language for you, isn't it?

Done with this. Enjoy your season, however long it lasts.

[narch]

compiled some regional records for south teams as of this morning

   w   l   win%
su   27   4   0.871
cnu   25   4   0.862
maryville   21   10   0.677
emory   23   11   0.676
salisbury   20   10   0.667
piedmont   22   11   0.667
methodist   18   11   0.621
rhodes   20   14   0.588
huntingdon   15   11   0.577


i think when owp and oowp are considered, maryville will drop below mu - piedmont has 2 games vs. ncwc and one vs. lagrange left - monarch fans should be rooting for the bishops and the panthers for 2 reasons...1.) handing piedmont losses and 2.) helping the monarchs owp

the games vs. emory and salisbury are HUGE for mu...head-to-head is more important than sos

[PNeal7]

It is going to be nice when Birmingham Southern gets into the mix. They are a very, very good ball club, especially with 1B Bruce Maxwell and SP Jesse Meier. We actually have the Meier kid, along with SP Jordan Burchett, coming to play for us this summer in the Valley League.

[forheavendial4999]

Not sure nice is the term I would use lol.

I think they may be a force some aren't quite anticipating. I don't think there's a program out there that has the combination of facilities, regional name recognition, available D-III caliber recruits and lack of competition for them.

B-SC was 21-3, 18-6, 18-6 in the Big South in their last 3 years there. They were a solid D-I program.

I've been saying since they announced the drop that they're going to be very good. I wasn't as afraid of them obsoleting D-III baseball as I was if Tulane had dropped to D-III, but all the ingredients are there for a really good program.

[PNeal7]

I agree completely. They are a very, very good team; one that, as you pointed out, competed at a higher level on the dI stage. I use the term "nice" meaning that adding another top level team to the already talented South Region will continue to solidfy it's rank as the top region.