BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

forheavendial4999 · April 23, 2011, 09:37:30 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2011, 09:31:56 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 23, 2011, 02:48:27 AM
Quote from: narch on April 22, 2011, 10:55:30 PM
the captains and ncwc didn't do anything to help mu...piedmont took 3 games from the bishops, and the ssu win over cnu solidifies the seagulls, as well

lagrange is officially joining the usasac (along with piedmont)...in my opinion, that will lead to the departure of cnu, and the cnu/salisbury game today and the cnu/york game tomorrow could be a preview of a future cac matchup

Maryville next, surely...then it'll be interesting. Huntingdon and Birmingham Southern together could be attractive; Huntingdon on its own maybe not so much.

Could they get those 3, split into divisions and keep CNU?

"East" -- CNU, Methodist, Greensboro, Averett, NCWC, Ferrum
"West" -- LaGrange, Piedmont, B-SC, Huntingdon, Maryville

Heaven, BSC moved up from D-1 into a conference of peer institutions, the SCAC, so they will not move out of the SCAC.

Associated Colleges of the South

I am sure that Covenant was "sought" by the GSAC as a member to help them get to AQ status. Covenant will be active in 2013-14, but games against it will count in "in-region" determinations next season. The whole GSAC could be the "West" Division.

I can't help but notice that not all of those ACS schools are in the SCAC.

narch · April 23, 2011, 09:43:26 AM

to my knowledge, covenant was not approached by the usasac, and i doubt they will be - when/if maryville joins, i think they will be the last addition to the usasac, and i think the the only thing left for the usasac will be cnu departing - i just don't see the captains being excited making regular trips to demorest, lagrange and maryville

narch · April 24, 2011, 10:10:58 PM

the monarchs lost a tough game, in the worst way possible on saturday...a balk in extra innings

to make matters worse, the rmc game on monday has been cancelled...so the monarchs don't have a chance to get another regional win - unless the monarchs can add someone, i think they'll need to sweep salisbury...tough task

D-BAT · April 25, 2011, 04:54:59 AM

Is SU trying to schedule a home game with CNU before regionals?

vabaseball · April 25, 2011, 06:04:49 AM

Seriously? That sounds insane.

forheavendial4999 · April 25, 2011, 06:07:29 AM

Quote from: vabaseball on April 25, 2011, 06:04:49 AM
Seriously? That sounds insane.

For who?

Ralph Turner · April 25, 2011, 07:41:10 AM

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 23, 2011, 09:37:30 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2011, 09:31:56 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 23, 2011, 02:48:27 AM
Quote from: narch on April 22, 2011, 10:55:30 PM
the captains and ncwc didn't do anything to help mu...piedmont took 3 games from the bishops, and the ssu win over cnu solidifies the seagulls, as well

lagrange is officially joining the usasac (along with piedmont)...in my opinion, that will lead to the departure of cnu, and the cnu/salisbury game today and the cnu/york game tomorrow could be a preview of a future cac matchup

Maryville next, surely...then it'll be interesting. Huntingdon and Birmingham Southern together could be attractive; Huntingdon on its own maybe not so much.

Could they get those 3, split into divisions and keep CNU?

"East" -- CNU, Methodist, Greensboro, Averett, NCWC, Ferrum
"West" -- LaGrange, Piedmont, B-SC, Huntingdon, Maryville

Heaven, BSC moved up from D-1 into a conference of peer institutions, the SCAC, so they will not move out of the SCAC.

Associated Colleges of the South

I am sure that Covenant was "sought" by the GSAC as a member to help them get to AQ status. Covenant will be active in 2013-14, but games against it will count in "in-region" determinations next season. The whole GSAC could be the "West" Division.

I can't help but notice that not all of those ACS schools are in the SCAC.

Of the ACS schools that are not in the SCAC, only Spelman (Women's in the GSAC), Washington and Lee in the ODAC and Centenary (D-I non-football moving to D-III and the ASC in 2011-12) are D-III.

All others are in other classifications.

vabaseball · April 25, 2011, 11:02:48 AM

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 25, 2011, 06:07:29 AM
Quote from: vabaseball on April 25, 2011, 06:04:49 AM
Seriously? That sounds insane.

For who?

CNU has exams this week. SU has exams next week. Seems difficult to schedule a game between teams that are four hours apart.

PNeal7 · April 25, 2011, 12:03:43 PM

I'm not sure what the benefit in scheduling a game with SU would be, other than just staying in "game shape" against one of the nation's top schools. CNU is automatically in Regionals, and SU is not anywhere close to being on the Bubble, so it is not like both teams need to play so the winner gets a boost in Regional Rankings.

forheavendial4999 · April 25, 2011, 06:55:57 PM

Quote from: vabaseball on April 25, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 25, 2011, 06:07:29 AM
Quote from: vabaseball on April 25, 2011, 06:04:49 AM
Seriously? That sounds insane.

For who?

CNU has exams this week. SU has exams next week. Seems difficult to schedule a game between teams that are four hours apart.

True enough unless it's a weekend game.

rolln2 · April 25, 2011, 08:54:19 PM

As for CNU/SU playing a game to stay sharp. It cannot be done. CNU has already played the alotted 40 regular season games allowable in DIII. Forty plus tournaments is all you get.

Ralph Turner · April 26, 2011, 08:46:52 AM

Quote from: rolln2 on April 25, 2011, 08:54:19 PM
As for CNU/SU playing a game to stay sharp. It cannot be done. CNU has already played the alotted 40 regular season games allowable in DIII. Forty plus tournaments is all you get.

Good point, rolln2! +1

narch · April 30, 2011, 09:05:18 PM

tough loss for the monarchs today...probably dashed any hope of a regional bid

hopefully they can rebound for senior day...4 really great monarchs will finish their careers on sunday - britt, lovette, inghram and lancaster have had fantastic careers for the monarchs and will be greatly missed!

focusandfire · May 02, 2011, 09:13:15 AM

Salisbury dominated the Monarchs this weekend. Salisbury's closer, Drew Baldwin, was outstanding- the Monarchs couldn't do anything with him- in game 1 he closed the game striking out two- in game 2, he came into the game in the 7th with bases loaded and 1 out- he struck out Inghram and Thigpen in the bottom of the 7th, 3 in the 8th and 1 in the 9th- he retired 8 straight. Brian Green hit two bombs in game 2. Salisbury deserves to be in the regionals.

narch · May 02, 2011, 02:07:08 PM

Quote from: focusandfire on May 02, 2011, 09:13:15 AM
Salisbury dominated the Monarchs this weekend. Salisbury's closer, Drew Baldwin, was outstanding- the Monarchs couldn't do anything with him- in game 1 he closed the game striking out two- in game 2, he came into the game in the 7th with bases loaded and 1 out- he struck out Inghram and Thigpen in the bottom of the 7th, 3 in the 8th and 1 in the 9th- he retired 8 straight. Brian Green hit two bombs in game 2. Salisbury deserves to be in the regionals.

i can't say that i disagree...they'll need to jump maryville and emory in the regional rankings (as well as mu, but i think that's a foregone conclusion) - the fact that both of those teams (emory and maryville) are pool b teams that are close to a regional site which might be difficult to fill without flights complicates the issue

comparing the three teams on merit alone, i think ssu gets the nod over the other 2:
m'ville: 22-12 (.647) vs. .548 OWP, 66 SOS rank
emory: 24-13 (.649) vs. .542 OWP, 70 SOS rank
ssu: 24-10 (.706) vs. .543 OWP, 85 SOS rank

ssu does have two big regional games left against hopkins (24-8 in region) and montclair (12-10 in region)...winning both i think would make ssu a slam dunk for a regional bid – win, lose or draw, hopkins will help ssu's OWP and montclair will help ssu's OOWP – maryville and emory both appear to be done (there is nothing more on their schedule)