BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference

[hokieone]

   Sure, let's have both squads burn pitchers 3 days before the tournament, have Greensboro make the four hour trip. etc.  And all that assumes the weather cooperates, certainly not a given lately.

   I see the point obviously, but when USAS set up the schedule to go to two conference games against each school, as opposed to three,  presumably everybody knew you could end up with something like this.

   If the situation were reversed, NCWC would think the same thing.  A makeup game three days before the first day of the tournament is not exactly a fair thing either.

   Late season rainouts would certainly be a factor to consider should they ever re-visit the scheduling.

[Catfishncwc]

   Sure, let's have both squads burn pitchers 3 days before the tournament, have Greensboro make the four hour trip. etc.  And all that assumes the weather cooperates, certainly not a given lately.

   I see the point obviously, but when USAS set up the schedule to go to two conference games against each school, as opposed to three,  presumably everybody knew you could end up with something like this.

   If the situation were reversed, NCWC would think the same thing.  A makeup game three days before the first day of the tournament is not exactly a fair thing either.

   Late season rainouts would certainly be a factor to consider should they ever re-visit the scheduling.

This was not a late season rainout this was a mid season conference game that was not played.  they were exactly in the middle of the confernce schedule and decided not to play.  this is why teams do not schedule monday games so they can make them up.  This is very fishy as to why this game is not played at all. 
O'well they can have their 2nd conference regular season championship.  What do we have like 14 of them. 

[Catfishncwc]

Catfish, the game wasn't played because despite a forecast for clear weather, it began raining at 9:00 a.m. and didn't stop till late evening, and CNU has no lights.

Weather was good on monday.  At least it was in Norfolk.

[Falcon2720]

I don't believe CNU has the pitching dept to win the conference tournament. Behind Moreland, there pitching drops off significantly.

CNU has two pitchers over 25 innings

Wesleyan and Methodist seem to have the most dept with to make a run at the tourny title.  You have to win at least 3 or 4 games in four days.

[Catfishncwc]

Catfish, the game wasn't played because despite a forecast for clear weather, it began raining at 9:00 a.m. and didn't stop till late evening, and CNU has no lights.

Weather was good on monday.  At least it was in Norfolk.

Actually according to weather.com   Weather on Monday March 31st which would have been the makeup date for this game if both teams would have agreed, was a high of 66, low of 47 and only 0.03 precip.  Very good conditions to play a baseball game. 

[hokieone]

    And Greensboro hangs around Newport News another 24 hours, players miss all of their classes on Monday, with no advance notice to professors, whether there were papers due, tests to be taken, etc.
   
  CNU would've loved  to have gotten it in as they had a lot of nice 'mo after the 3 runs in the bottom of the ninth comeback the day before.     

  Clearly CNU's #2 hasn't thrown anything like Moreland lately and the pitching in the a.m. (After Moreland) will need to step it up if CNU is to go places. 

[Catfishncwc]

    And Greensboro hangs around Newport News another 24 hours, players miss all of their classes on Monday, with no advance notice to professors, whether there were papers due, tests to be taken, etc.
   
  CNU would've loved  to have gotten it in as they had a lot of nice 'mo after the 3 runs in the bottom of the ninth comeback the day before.     

  Clearly CNU's #2 hasn't thrown anything like Moreland lately and the pitching in the a.m. (After Moreland) will need to step it up if CNU is to go places. 

We hung around Greensboro till Monday this year.   I did it a couple times when I played back in the late 90's.  I am not saying that any team has done anything wrong it just seems funny that this game was not played.  When we did the same exact thing earlier this year and played a Conference on a monday which happened to be against Greensboro.   

[NCWC]

   Sure, let's have both squads burn pitchers 3 days before the tournament, have Greensboro make the four hour trip. etc.  And all that assumes the weather cooperates, certainly not a given lately.

   I see the point obviously, but when USAS set up the schedule to go to two conference games against each school, as opposed to three,  presumably everybody knew you could end up with something like this.

   If the situation were reversed, NCWC would think the same thing.  A makeup game three days before the first day of the tournament is not exactly a fair thing either.

   Late season rainouts would certainly be a factor to consider should they ever re-visit the scheduling.

If the situation were reversed Wesleyan would throw #4 or #5 and not think twice about it.  NCWC is behind in the standings by .027.  I wonder if this has anything to do with the silly Presidents Cup which CNU has seem to won a majority of the time.

I figure CNU will last 3 games in the tournament and it will be rained out like last year.  And the USAS will announce a winner when there has been no championship game played.  CNU has been taking fairness enhancers.

[vabaseball]

I'm sorry the Greensboro/CNU game was not played.  The teams were blindsided by the weather -- I was there and expected sunshine that day. 

Teams were not blindsided by the weather this weekend when CNU had to sit around in Fayetteville for over 36 hours before they could play a game.  NCWC had the foresight or thoughtfulness to postpone in advance of SU having to leave town.

I doubt that NCWC sat around Greensboro from Friday through Monday afternoon when they played their Monday game this season.  As I recall those games were pushed back with plenty of notice.  Maybe I'm wrong though.

As far as fairness enhancers, NCWC had a dose of those when they were scheduled to be done with their conference games a week of all the other teams in the USA south.

How did CNU benefit from the tournament rainouts last year?  They didn't.  It cost them, like it cost most everyone else.

[Catfishncwc]

All of this is just gonna make for a very interesting tournament.  I for one can not wait.   

[Falcon2720]

vabaseball,

Nothing wrong with sitting around Fayetteville.  Great City.  Last I checked CNU has the internet and can look at the weather forecast.

Wesleyan still plays three games this weekend, so its not like their taking the week off.

Last I checked CNU still has to play Ferrum at Ferrum.  A sweep is not a given, especially with those umpires and weather conditions.

NCWC is 9-3.  CNU is 7-2.  If CNU splits, CNU will be 8-3.  Wesleyan will be Conference Champs, number 1 seed in the tournament and can potentially get that Friday bye.

[vabaseball]

You are absolutely right.  CNU needs to sweep Ferrum or it will all be a moot point.

I'm not sure how game postponements work, but I didn't know that visitors could decide not to show for a game because they didn't like the forecast.

Hoping for no rain during the tournament.

[narch]

Sure, let's have both squads burn pitchers 3 days before the tournament, have Greensboro make the four hour trip. etc.  And all that assumes the weather cooperates, certainly not a given lately.

it's not like playing on the monday before the usasac tournament is unprecedented...the monarchs are playing a regional game at lynchburg that monday...i think the greater point is that the conference needs to do everything they can to assure that this doesn't happen again (just as they need to do everything they can to assure that the tournament fiasco from last year doesn't happen again) AND the conference needs to ensure that coaches are doing everything they can to make reasonable accomodations when weather interferes with conference games - cnu and gc have/had time to find a mutually agreeable date to play that game (i'm with everyone else...seems like playing it on the monday after it was postponed would have been reasonable) - maybe they could cancel a non-conference game (cnu @ rmc on april 10, gc @ b'water on april 11) to play on the 10th or 11th...all of us would agree that a conference game is more important than a non-conference game, and i'm sure the b'water and rmc coaches would understand, as well...heck, they might even get that game back after conference tournaments conclude - and a win against gc for cnu (or cnu for gc) helps either team more from a regional standpoint than a win against b'water or rmc

Teams were not blindsided by the weather this weekend when CNU had to sit around in Fayetteville for over 36 hours before they could play a game.  NCWC had the foresight or thoughtfulness to postpone in advance of SU having to leave town.

with the weather this weekend, i see no problem waiting until the last minute to postpone...it was so touch-and-go (pouring rain one minute...barely sprinkling the next) around here all weekend that there was no way of knowing if conditions would permit games to be played on saturday OR sunday...if it had been possible to get a game in on saturday, it could have potentially saved some serious headaches had sunday been deemed unplayable - as it is, it worked out well - i'm sorry that cnu had to sit around in fayetteville for over 36 hours, but stuff happens when you're doing everything possible to ensure that you play all of your conference games

[Catfishncwc]

I just wish I knew for real why they did not play that second game on Monday.  I would like to know that reason. 

[A.G.]

This discussion is certainly more entertaining than the ODAC discussions...