NE Region General Questions

7express · February 16, 2014, 08:36:49 PM

If they beat Albertus on Tuesday, they may very well get into the rankings next week, considering Middlebury (#10 lost today), and Rhode Island College (#8) has a very losable game @ UMass-Dartmouth Tuesday night who they only beat by 6 at home.

pjunito · February 16, 2014, 08:55:00 PM

Hey 7, does the committee look at games play through Tuesday? I thought it was games played through Sunday (today)? So, the JWU/Albertus game won't affect this week's rankings... Please let me know if I am wrong (it happens a lot, just ask GNAC - no Shootout in Olympic hockey, lol)...

But, I agree with GNAC - JWU should be ahead of RIC - they are just better. They beat them at RIC this year and have blown people away since January 1st. They just beat Mt. Ida by 67. Not that isn't a typo!

Interesting week in the region - I think the first two spots remain the same. But, what happens after that. How far does Bowdoin fall after a lost at Tufts? Where does Springfield fall to, are they out of the top 10? Is Midd gone from rankings? Where do Babson, Eastern, WPI, and Albertus sit after this week?

Pat Coleman · February 16, 2014, 09:25:01 PM

Committee only looks at games through Sunday, that's correct.

GnacBballFan · February 16, 2014, 09:26:20 PM

Pj, stay off the olympic hockey message boards is all I'll say about that lol good question though, as soon as I read 7's post I was wondering sand thing. Are the regional rankings thru tonight or Tuesday night?

GnacBballFan · February 16, 2014, 09:26:57 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 16, 2014, 09:25:01 PM
Committee only looks at games through Sunday, that's correct.

There we go. Thanks pat, must have posted at same time lol

7express · February 16, 2014, 09:59:36 PM

Hey 7, does the committee look at games play through Tuesday? I thought it was games played through Sunday (today)? So, the JWU/Albertus game won't affect this week's rankings... Please let me know if I am wrong (it happens a lot, just ask GNAC - no Shootout in Olympic hockey, lol)...

PJ, games from Tuesday don't count, so if J&W wins it wouldn't be reflected in this week's rankings, it wouldn't be reflected until the following week the 26.

7express · February 19, 2014, 03:37:24 PM

New RR's. Not much changing for the most part: Bowdoin went from 3-6 and WPI (6th to 5th), Eastern (5th to 4th) and Babson (4th to 3rd) got bumped up 1 line. I don't think anything else changed:
NORTHEAST

Rank School In-Region Record Overall Record
1 Amherst 21-2 21-3
2 Williams 20-3 21-3
3 Babson 18-5 18-5
4 Eastern Connecticut State 18-5 18-5
5 WPI 20-3 20-3
6 Bowdoin 19-4 19-4
7 Springfield 15-6 16-6
8 Albertus Magnus 21-1 21-2
9 Rhode Island College 16-7 16-7
10 Nichols 18-5 18-5
11 Middlebury 15-8 16-8

Pat Coleman · February 19, 2014, 03:41:02 PM

And the link, with the rest of them:

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2014/02/19/2014-ncaa-regional-rankings-week-2/

7express · February 19, 2014, 03:47:45 PM

When's the last time a top 4 from New England didn't make the NCAA's??

GnacBballFan · February 19, 2014, 04:19:49 PM

Springfield loses and stays in front of albertus who has 1 d3 loss on yr lol can't make this stuff up. I'm done looking at the rankings they seem to be a joke. How is a 15-6 team ranked higher then a 19-2 team? No one Springfield has beaten is better then purchase who albertus beat. I'm sorry I just don't get it, and it makes no sense. Again not asking for albertus to be 1, just don't know how Springfield is ahead of them at this point. Just keep winning falcons

WPI89 · February 19, 2014, 04:27:56 PM

Question to Pat or anyone with the answer. Can someone remind me of the timing of things. ie - conference tourney's take place next weekend - I think most champs are crowned and autobids clinched then (Sunday March 2nd).

My main question is - is there one last regional ranking after the conference tournaments and before the bracket is selected?

I ask because Eastern ahead of WPI scares the hell out of me. I could easily see them winning their last 3 (although winning twice in a couple of days against Western may be tough). So Eastern will stay ahead of WPI and then potentially lose to RIC and completely block WPI from an at large should they trip up to Babson or Springfield. I hope I am wrong but I am just not sure a 21-6 (or close to that) Eastern team gets an at large bid this year?

Mr. Ypsi · February 19, 2014, 04:34:04 PM

Quote from: WPI89 on February 19, 2014, 04:27:56 PM
Question to Pat or anyone with the answer. Can someone remind me of the timing of things. ie - conference tourney's take place next weekend - I think most champs are crowned and autobids clinched then (Sunday March 2nd).

My main question is - is there one last regional ranking after the conference tournaments and before the bracket is selected?

I ask because Eastern ahead of WPI scares the hell out of me. I could easily see them winning their last 3 (although winning twice in a couple of days against Western may be tough). So Eastern will stay ahead of WPI and then potentially lose to RIC and completely block WPI from an at large should they trip up to Babson or Springfield. I hope I am wrong but I am just not sure a 21-6 (or close to that) Eastern team gets an at large bid this year?

Yes, there is a final set of rankings. Alas, it is kept secret.

The NCAA apparently wants to generate conspiracy theories!

WPI89 · February 19, 2014, 04:41:51 PM

Thanks Ypsi - I remember that from years past now that you mention it that way.

So lots of games for the rankings to still sort themselves out.

7express · February 19, 2014, 05:19:41 PM

Quote from: WPI89 on February 19, 2014, 04:27:56 PM
Question to Pat or anyone with the answer. Can someone remind me of the timing of things. ie - conference tourney's take place next weekend - I think most champs are crowned and autobids clinched then (Sunday March 2nd).

My main question is - is there one last regional ranking after the conference tournaments and before the bracket is selected?

I ask because Eastern ahead of WPI scares the hell out of me. I could easily see them winning their last 3 (although winning twice in a couple of days against Western may be tough). So Eastern will stay ahead of WPI and then potentially lose to RIC and completely block WPI from an at large should they trip up to Babson or Springfield. I hope I am wrong but I am just not sure a 21-6 (or close to that) Eastern team gets an at large bid this year?

Yah next week is public ranking. That's the 3rd and final one. The last rankings released, the week of March 2 the one's the NCAA uses for the 19 Pool C teams are the ones that are private. I think Eastern can lose twice this week, tbph. Western is a rivalry game, and then on Saturday they go up to Maine to play Southern Maine. The team is terrible, but the trip is so long that usually they get a game against one of those teams. USM has beaten at least 1 of: Rhode Island, Eastern Conn, or Western Conn at home in 6 of the last 7 years, even though in only 2 of those years they've finished with a winning conference record.

pjunito · February 19, 2014, 09:06:56 PM

A quote from one of my favorite movies:

"Really, I live in Queens. Did you put that together yourself Einstein? What, do you got a team of monkeys working around the clock on this one?"

Maybe, there really isn't a committee, maybe we have monkeys... Or Maybe the 8 coaches think it would be better to have a computer run numbers. There is no way that 8 basketball men can come up with almost no changes in this week rankings. I look at the other regions, and teams have moved up and down depending on what they are doing.

I do not believe in conspiracy theories (unless we are talking JFK).. but I do believe in blind arrogance. Can someone.. anyone make any sense of these rankings?