MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Titan Q]

WESLEYAN news heard thru the grapevine----------

1. Soph Sean Dwyer has sustained either a re-injury or a new injury to his foot, and will be out for an indefinite length of time.

2. Promising incoming 6'5" frosh Dan Schouten out of Downers Grove South had shoulder surgery and will be lost until at least January.

Confirmation or not from any IWU fans?

That is correct about Dan Schouten.

Regarding Sean Dwyer, I have not heard anything about a new injury.  The last I heard he was still rehabbing from that second broken foot.  (Sean broke one foot in IWU's season opener @ UW-Whitewater and then he broke the other in practice a day or so into his return.)  I have been out of town a lot lately though on work trips, so maybe I missed something...I will post if I hear anything.  Sean is certainly a big part of IWU's 2007-08 plans. 

[AndOne]

Q------

Perhaps the source of the info about Dwyer was referring to the fact that he is still recovering from the 2nd injury last season, rather than having sustained a brand new, or 3rd foot injury. During our conversation, one of the people I was talking to about Dan then stated "and Sean Dwyer hurt his foot "again" and won't be able to play for awhile. I took "again" to mean something new rather than the fact he still hasn't made a complete recovery from last year's 2nd injury. I didn't question them further as I was just leaving.

Also-----you said Dwyer is a big part of the upcoming season's plans. However, won't his part be as a reserve, as I would surmise the Titans starting guards this season will be Gilmore and Rosenkranz.

[Mr. Ypsi]

IF Dwyer recovers fully, I wouldn't be too quick to assme the position is Rosenkranz's - that should be a great battle.  And after last season, a 'surplus of riches' at pg is a thing devoutly to be wished.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Trivia quiz for the off-season:

1.  Only five players have been CCIW first team all-conference all four years - name them.

Hint #1:  Jack Sikma is NOT among them (he was 'only' 2nd team as a freshman).

Hint #2:  2 are within the last ten years, 2 are over fifty years ago.

2.  Only two players have been CCIW MOP 3 times (and neither is among the answers to question 1) - name them.  (This one's probably too easy, but it comes with an asterisk to be explained later.)

[AndOne]

Trivia quiz for the off-season:

1.  Only five players have been CCIW first team all-conference all four years - name them.

Hint #1:  Jack Sikma is NOT among them (he was 'only' 2nd team as a freshman).

Hint #2:  2 are within the last ten years, 2 are over fifty years ago.

2.  Only two players have been CCIW MOP 3 times (and neither is among the answers to question 1) - name them.  (This one's probably too easy, but it comes with an asterisk to be explained later.)

Looking into my crystal ball..............................

Question #1--------
1. Bud Schaeffer--Wheaton--46-47 thru 49-50
2. Bill Warden--North Central--51-52 thru 54-55
3. Jesse Price--Millikin--65-66 thru 68-69
4. Jason Wiertel--Carthage--98-99 thru 01-02
5. Rob Garnes--Carthage--99-00 thru 02-03

Question #2--------
1. Jack Sikma--IWU--75.76,77
2. Michael Harper--NPU--78,79,80

[David Collinge]

Also-----you said Dwyer is a big part of the upcoming season's plans. However, won't his part be as a reserve, as I would surmise the Titans starting guards this season will be Gilmore and Rosenkranz.

You're kidding, right?  They're going to pair Rosenkranz up with a guy named "Gilmore?"  The jokes are just too easy and too lame; writing game stories for the Pantagraph will be a real challenge.  I really hope Dwyer gets well soon.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Trivia quiz for the off-season:

1.  Only five players have been CCIW first team all-conference all four years - name them.

Hint #1:  Jack Sikma is NOT among them (he was 'only' 2nd team as a freshman).

Hint #2:  2 are within the last ten years, 2 are over fifty years ago.

2.  Only two players have been CCIW MOP 3 times (and neither is among the answers to question 1) - name them.  (This one's probably too easy, but it comes with an asterisk to be explained later.)

Looking into my crystal ball..............................

Question #1--------
1. Bud Schaeffer--Wheaton--46-47 thru 49-50
2. Bill Warden--North Central--51-52 thru 54-55
3. Jesse Price--Millikin--65-66 thru 68-69
4. Jason Wiertel--Carthage--98-99 thru 01-02
5. Rob Garnes--Carthage--99-00 thru 02-03

Question #2--------
1. Jack Sikma--IWU--75.76,77
2. Michael Harper--NPU--78,79,80

Good crystal ball!

The asterisk on #2 is due to the MOP award not existing until Jesse Price's junior year (1967-68).  He was MOP both of the first two years of the award; IMO he was distinctly the best player in the conference as a soph (my freshman year).  Whether or not he could have been a FOUR-time winner, we'll never know (and, of course, Schaeffer and Warden had no shot at even one).

Besides Sikma, several players just missed with 2nd team as a freshman, followed by 3 first team selections: Augie's Drew Carstens (01-04), Elmhurst's Chris Martin (02-06), IWU's Luke Kasten (00-03), the long-departed Lake Forest's Tom Lewis (58-61), and Millikin's Scott Steagall (48-51).  Also, Wheaton's Marv Johnson did it differently - 2nd as a junior, surrounded by 3 1sts (48-51).  An additional 17 players had three 1st team selections, but something below 2nd in the fourth year (or did not play four years).

[robberki]

bud greer or mike thomas from NPU didn't answer that question?

[Titan Q]

Q------

Perhaps the source of the info about Dwyer was referring to the fact that he is still recovering from the 2nd injury last season, rather than having sustained a brand new, or 3rd foot injury. During our conversation, one of the people I was talking to about Dan then stated "and Sean Dwyer hurt his foot "again" and won't be able to play for awhile. I took "again" to mean something new rather than the fact he still hasn't made a complete recovery from last year's 2nd injury. I didn't question them further as I was just leaving.

Also-----you said Dwyer is a big part of the upcoming season's plans. However, won't his part be as a reserve, as I would surmise the Titans starting guards this season will be Gilmore and Rosenkranz.

I did confirm today that Sean Dwyer has not suffered another injury...he's just still rehabbing from that second break.

While my guess is that Travis Rosenkranz will be IWU's starting PG - I think Rosenkranz has superstar potential - I'm confident that a healthy Sean Dwyer would make it quite a battle.  Dwyer is a very smart kid, a leader, and incredibly strong -- one of the best put together freshman perimeter players I've seen in a Titan uniform.  Whether Dwyer wins the job or is the backup PG, I think he factors into IWU's plans in a big way (again, if healthy).  After watching a season in which IWU really did not have a pure PG once Dwyer went down on opening weekend, I am all for having two really good point-guards, that's for sure.

Sounds like 6-6 senior Brian Nussbaum, who has been injured the last two seasons (shoulder) is healthy, in great shape, and ready to go.  I am looking forward to seeing what role he plays this year.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Greer was only HM as a freshman, then three straight 1sts (so he is one of the 17).  Thomas began with two 2nd team selections, then two firsts.

[AndOne]

Trivia quiz for the off-season:

1.  Only five players have been CCIW first team all-conference all four years - name them.

Hint #1:  Jack Sikma is NOT among them (he was 'only' 2nd team as a freshman).

Hint #2:  2 are within the last ten years, 2 are over fifty years ago.

2.  Only two players have been CCIW MOP 3 times (and neither is among the answers to question 1) - name them.  (This one's probably too easy, but it comes with an asterisk to be explained later.)

Looking into my crystal ball..............................

Question #1--------
1. Bud Schaeffer--Wheaton--46-47 thru 49-50
2. Bill Warden--North Central--51-52 thru 54-55
3. Jesse Price--Millikin--65-66 thru 68-69
4. Jason Wiertel--Carthage--98-99 thru 01-02
5. Rob Garnes--Carthage--99-00 thru 02-03

Question #2--------
1. Jack Sikma--IWU--75.76,77
2. Michael Harper--NPU--78,79,80

Good crystal ball!

The asterisk on #2 is due to the MOP award not existing until Jesse Price's junior year (1967-68).  He was MOP both of the first two years of the award; IMO he was distinctly the best player in the conference as a soph (my freshman year).  Whether or not he could have been a FOUR-time winner, we'll never know (and, of course, Schaeffer and Warden had no shot at even one).

Besides Sikma, several players just missed with 2nd team as a freshman, followed by 3 first team selections: Augie's Drew Carstens (01-04), Elmhurst's Chris Martin (02-06), IWU's Luke Kasten (00-03), the long-departed Lake Forest's Tom Lewis (58-61), and Millikin's Scott Steagall (48-51).  Also, Wheaton's Marv Johnson did it differently - 2nd as a junior, surrounded by 3 1sts (48-51).  An additional 17 players had three 1st team selections, but something below 2nd in the fourth year (or did not play four years).

Thanks Mr. Ypsi------------

Just please don't send my prize C.O.D.          

[hoops2007]

Even though, we are kind of off the subject now... but about Lori Kerans.... She is an awful AD.  Her sport was the only sport at Millikin over .500!! Kind of ironic.  Shows alot about her leadership and care for the whole athletic department with those kind of results in the entire school.   Also.. that is pretty respectable to be national champions but I have a huge problem with that! Lori loves to take all the credit!! ALL the credit!! But if we look back at that season, luckily for Lori, one of the forwards broke her leg.  Lindsay Ippel had not even played but 5 minutes a game if that.  Wierd!! Then, she was the national tournment player of the year. Lori would have never played her and she was questioning transferring or not playing.  Also, they had all five starters back and got fifth in the league the next year. Didnt even make the conference tournament.  My honest to God belief is that Tim Littrell was fired because of the fear that in the next two years, with his last recruiting class and the recruiting class he was going to have this coming year, a different team at Millikin could have had a better record than the womens team.  She did everything to keep the womens basketball team at the top at Millikin.  This time it meant firing someone who had spent the last 32 years representing Millikin in the best ways that anyone can. Very ironic!!  I also know that Travis had not ruled out Millikin 100% like someone had said in an earlier post.  His choice was between MU and IWu and when Lit was fired, his decision was made!!

[AndOne]

bud greer or mike thomas from NPU didn't answer that question?

No Robberki---It was I, The Great Wizard, with my crystal ball!            

[AndOne]

Q------

Perhaps the source of the info about Dwyer was referring to the fact that he is still recovering from the 2nd injury last season, rather than having sustained a brand new, or 3rd foot injury. During our conversation, one of the people I was talking to about Dan then stated "and Sean Dwyer hurt his foot "again" and won't be able to play for awhile. I took "again" to mean something new rather than the fact he still hasn't made a complete recovery from last year's 2nd injury. I didn't question them further as I was just leaving.

Also-----you said Dwyer is a big part of the upcoming season's plans. However, won't his part be as a reserve, as I would surmise the Titans starting guards this season will be Gilmore and Rosenkranz.

I did confirm today that Sean Dwyer has not suffered another injury...he's just still rehabbing from that second break.

While my guess is that Travis Rosenkranz will be IWU's starting PG - I think Rosenkranz has superstar potential - I'm confident that a healthy Sean Dwyer would make it quite a battle.  Dwyer is a very smart kid, a leader, and incredibly strong -- one of the best put together freshman perimeter players I've seen in a Titan uniform.  Whether Dwyer wins the job or is the backup PG, I think he factors into IWU's plans in a big way (again, if healthy).  After watching a season in which IWU really did not have a pure PG once Dwyer went down on opening weekend, I am all for having two really good point-guards, that's for sure.

Thanks for clearing that up Q, and for the additional info.

It sounds like if Dwyer (the incumbent) makes a full recovery and is able to play to his full capability, but Rosenkranz (the newcomer)  starts, there is a high degree of possibility that there will be some discord and negative chemistry within the ranks?

[AndOne]

Even though, we are kind of off the subject now... but about Lori Kerans.... She is an awful AD.  Her sport was the only sport at Millikin over .500!! Kind of ironic.  Shows alot about her leadership and care for the whole athletic department with those kind of results in the entire school.   Also.. that is pretty respectable to be national champions but I have a huge problem with that! Lori loves to take all the credit!! ALL the credit!! But if we look back at that season, luckily for Lori, one of the forwards broke her leg.  Lindsay Ippel had not even played but 5 minutes a game if that.  Wierd!! Then, she was the national tournment player of the year. Lori would have never played her and she was questioning transferring or not playing.  Also, they had all five starters back and got fifth in the league the next year. Didnt even make the conference tournament.  My honest to God belief is that Tim Littrell was fired because of the fear that in the next two years, with his last recruiting class and the recruiting class he was going to have this coming year, a different team at Millikin could have had a better record than the womens team.  She did everything to keep the womens basketball team at the top at Millikin.  This time it meant firing someone who had spent the last 32 years representing Millikin in the best ways that anyone can. Very ironic!!  I also know that Travis had not ruled out Millikin 100% like someone had said in an earlier post.  His choice was between MU and IWu and when Lit was fired, his decision was made!!

I think it was Titan Q that said Rosenkranz would not have gone to Millikin even if Coach Littrell had not been fired because he wanted to major in pre-med. 

It would be interesting to hear the basis for the opinions of both Hoops and Titan Q

Also----Can't you major in pre-med at Millikin???