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markerickson

Where does Bosko's kid typically get the ball that leads to his free throws?  In other words, is he inside the trey line, backing up a smaller guard?  Or does he tend to obtain the ball outside the line and then penetrate?  I know, I know, probably both. 

The Sun Times reported the other day that Steve D. leads the CCIW in scoring.  If you take away his touches, Carthage loses, right?  Is there a correlation between Steve's lack of touches and Carthage losses? 

If North Park sticks Antonio Stevens on Steve D., then I believe NP wins.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 09:55:40 AM
A sobering thought - today is the first day of winter.  Not sure what the heck you call the last four weeks of snow, ice, and freezing rain!!

In matters of weather I always defer to WGN meteorologist Tom Skilling, and he makes the distinction between "meteorological winter", which starts December 1, and "solstice winter", which starts December 21. I somehow find that comforting.

Quote from: sac on December 22, 2007, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 09:55:40 AM
A sobering thought - today is the first day of winter.  Not sure what the heck you call the last four weeks of snow, ice, and freezing rain!!

Pre-Winter? Non-Winter?

Heh! :D

Quote from: markerickson on December 22, 2007, 01:08:34 PMIf North Park sticks Antonio Stevens on Steve D., then I believe NP wins.

I think it'll be tougher than that. Tone is a phenomenal defender, but Steve D. has demonstrated that he can score off of anyone, under any situation. He'll get his points against the Vikings, I'm sure of that -- just as I'm sure that he'll get his points against the other six teams in the league. As far as NPU is concerned, I think that this is one of those situations in which the "you can't stop him, so just try to contain him" cliche holds effect. If Djurickovic has to amass a lot of shots in order to get his points against NPU -- in other words, if he's missing a lot of shots because Stevens is making him work hard to get a good look -- it'll make the situation that much more favorable for the Vikings.
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tjcummingsfan

We have to remember that with Tone guarding Steve D, that leaves a lesser defender on Bowens, who it seems this season has ben almost as dangerous.

AndOne

I think overall team speed might be the difference maker when it comes to NPU vs. CC.
It seems to me, that might give NP a slight advantage. But, how do the Viking and Red Men supporters view the subject?
Additionally, its a known fact CC has TWO great shooters in Steve D and Trey Bowens. How well recovered and what level Sean Fendley can preform at might give NPU three problems to defend on the perimeter.

David Collinge

Quote from: sac on December 22, 2007, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 09:55:40 AM
A sobering thought - today is the first day of winter.  Not sure what the heck you call the last four weeks of snow, ice, and freezing rain!!

Pre-Winter? Non-Winter?

+1 for the Smile of the Week.  :)

tjcummingsfan

Steve D isn't a shooter, at least not long range, he's 3-22 on the season.

petemcb

Quote from: sac on December 22, 2007, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2007, 09:55:40 AM
A sobering thought - today is the first day of winter.  Not sure what the heck you call the last four weeks of snow, ice, and freezing rain!!

Pre-Winter? Non-Winter?


How 'bout exhibition winter?

petemcb

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FWIW:  In trying to get a read on the Kenosha Kwestion Marks (that's for you, K-Mark), I noticed that 4-13 Trinity International lost 69-52 at D2 (soon to be D1) SIU-Edwardsville Friday night.  TIU was only down 35-31 at the half.  Comparative score calculators, start your engines.  Maybe that wasn't as bad a loss as we first thought.  Carthage may have met their enigmatic match on that dark and stormy night in Deerfield a couple of weeks ago.

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Late nite

13 turnovers from the starters and 23% from the arc pretty much tell the story---Augie continues to be miserable from 3 point range---Point had more offensive options than the Vikes
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 22, 2007, 10:09:56 PM
Point tops Augie 73-63

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AndOne

Quote from: Late nite on December 22, 2007, 11:49:11 PM
13 turnovers from the starters and 23% from the arc pretty much tell the story---Augie continues to be miserable from 3 point range---Point had more offensive options than the Vikes
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 22, 2007, 10:09:56 PM
Point tops Augie 73-63

Perhaps Delp will be missed as much as it was originally thought he would be.

dansand

Quote from: AndOne on December 23, 2007, 01:03:51 AM
Quote from: Late nite on December 22, 2007, 11:49:11 PM
13 turnovers from the starters and 23% from the arc pretty much tell the story---Augie continues to be miserable from 3 point range---Point had more offensive options than the Vikes
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 22, 2007, 10:09:56 PM
Point tops Augie 73-63

Perhaps Delp will be missed as much as it was originally thought he would be.

No question he was missed tonight. This was the first time their lack of perimeter offense really hurt them. They also dug themselves a hole in the first half with 14 turnovers, most of them in the early part of the half. Against most teams, they could have battled through the shooting issues like they have the rest of the year, but against the Pointers, who shoot it and take care of it very well (and in doing so limited Augie's transition opportunities), they just couldn't quite get it done.

A disappointing loss, but if you'd have told me before the season that, against this year's schedule, they'd match last year's 9-2 non conference record, I'd have been pretty happy with that. If you told me they'd done it while playing almost half that slate without their best player, I'd have really been surprised.


Titan Q

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Quote from: AndOne on December 23, 2007, 01:03:51 AM
Quote from: Late nite on December 22, 2007, 11:49:11 PM
13 turnovers from the starters and 23% from the arc pretty much tell the story---Augie continues to be miserable from 3 point range---Point had more offensive options than the Vikes
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 22, 2007, 10:09:56 PM
Point tops Augie 73-63

Perhaps Delp will be missed as much as it was originally thought he would be.

Over the course of a 14-game CCIW slate, I have to believe Delp's absence will mean about 2-3 losses for the Vikes.  I had Augie for 12-2 before the injury, and now I am thinking 10-4 or 9-5.  Coach G's system, built around that great defense, will keep Augustana in every single game they play.  And I'd guess Augie is the CCIW team most able to deal with the loss of a key player because, more than any team, they are about interchangeable parts to some degree...BUT, Delp was their #1 perimeter threat.  From an X's and O's standpoint, there are just some things they cannot do now.  The Vikings made just 2 3-pointers at Oshkosh and just 3 vs Stevens Point.

Augie should be right in the middle of the title picture up until the end, but without Delp, I don't think they are any more of a favorite than Elmhurst or Wheaton.

The good news for Augustana is that I'm almost positive there isn't a team in the CCIW as good as UW-Stevens Point.  The Vikes are well-tested, having played a great non-conference schedule, and ready for the CCIW season.  What an interesting opening game, by the way...Augie @ North Park.  I'd love to see that one.

Greek Tragedy

Anyone can look at a boxscore and get their own conclusions from that, but I'd like to get some input from Augie fans that were there on what they thought about Point.  Obviously, I can always come up with my opinions of Point because I wear those purple and gold colored glasses  ;), but it would be nice to get an honest outside view from you. 

The boxscore doesn't always tell the whole story, so what impressed you about Point, what do you think they could do better?  Did Augie just have a bad game and some of you might have felt they should've won, did Point just do a real good job on them, what players impressed you, etc...thanks.

TITAN  Q

Thanks for you always kind words on Point, but they have a batte for the WIAC title with Oshkosh being a real good team (but no depth) and Whitewater already knocking off Point.  We also can't forget a pretty solid Platteville team with arguably the best post player in the league (Jeff Skemp).
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