MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[markerickson]

Curse you, Slovaks!!

[Hardwood]

Does anyone have an idea how the conference would handle a situation where the same school earned the right to host the men's and women's conference tourney?

[Titan Q]

Does anyone have an idea how the conference would handle a situation where the same school earned the right to host the men's and women's conference tourney?

Had that happened this year, I know IWU was going to go...

* Women: Thursday/Saturday
* Men: Friday/Saturday

(The championship games back-to-back on Saturday night.)


I think it is up to each school to figure that out if it happens.  I just don't see how you could play all 4 games on Friday...I don't think you can start a game at, like, 3:00pm on a Friday, can you?

[Hardwood]

That seems to be a plausible way to handle it, and would pretty exciting for a school to have that opportunity.

[JuliePants]

Speaking of tournament scheduling, that brings me back to an earlier question of mine. 

Does anyone know why the Friday CCIW tourney games are at 5:00 & 7:30 this year?  If I remember correctly, they were 6:00 & 8:00 last year.  Is this decided by the CCIW or by the host school?  A 6:00 game seems a lot easier to make it out for than 5:00.

I think it is up to each school to figure that out if it happens.  I just don't see how you could play all 4 games on Friday...I don't think you can start a game at, like, 3:00pm on a Friday, can you?

Based on the above, I'm guessing that all tournament scheduling decisions are made by the host school?  Anyone know what kind of factors play into that?

[pgkevin]

Does anyone have an idea how the conference would handle a situation where the same school earned the right to host the men's and women's conference tourney?

Had that happened this year, I know IWU was going to go...

* Women: Thursday/Saturday
* Men: Friday/Saturday

(The championship games back-to-back on Saturday night.)


I think it is up to each school to figure that out if it happens.  I just don't see how you could play all 4 games on Friday...I don't think you can start a game at, like, 3:00pm on a Friday, can you?

Different conferences I know, but the Midwest Conference currently finds themselves in that predicament.  Both the Women's and Men's Tournaments are in St. Norbert.  They have elected to play all 4 games on Friday, with the 1st game starting at 1:30.

[pgkevin]

Does anyone have an idea how the conference would handle a situation where the same school earned the right to host the men's and women's conference tourney?

Had that happened this year, I know IWU was going to go...

* Women: Thursday/Saturday
* Men: Friday/Saturday

(The championship games back-to-back on Saturday night.)


I think it is up to each school to figure that out if it happens.  I just don't see how you could play all 4 games on Friday...I don't think you can start a game at, like, 3:00pm on a Friday, can you?

Different conferences I know, but the Midwest Conference currently finds themselves in that predicament.  Both the Women's and Men's Tournaments are in St. Norbert.  They have elected to play all 4 games on Friday, with the 1st game starting at 1:30.

Not many people lurking on our board over there anymore, so I figured this is as good a place as any since it was already brought up.  Just seems very unrepresentative of the rest of the season to force teams to play at 130, or even 330 when the next game is scheduled.  Tough school-wise, but also tough body clock wise.  These athletes are used to playing at either 5 or 7.  I know they are college athletes and they can do extraordinary things, but it does not seem like the conference is setting them up in a good situation.

[Titan Q]

Pat Coleman has Wheaton and IWU both in (through games of last night)...

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/25/taking-a-whack-at-pool-c/


Interesting.

[Titan Q]

Pat Coleman has Wheaton and IWU both in (through games of last night)...

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/25/taking-a-whack-at-pool-c/


Interesting.

I'll quickly get on my annual soap box about the conference tournament...

Assuming the host school wins, the conference tournament only hurts the league's Pool C chances.  Two teams go 0-1 and the other 1-1.  The best Pool C candidates leave the tournament with a lower in-region winning % than they entered with.

If we do have to have a tournament, including all 8 teams would make much more sense in terms of Pool C.  That way, the runner-up goes 2-1 and two teams go 1-1.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Pat Coleman has Wheaton and IWU both in (through games of last night)...

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/25/taking-a-whack-at-pool-c/


Interesting.

Note that his list of 19 assumed ZERO 'bracket-busting' losses by presumed AQs who would be powerful Pool C candidates - which never happens.  If you are lower than say 12 or 13 on the list, don't count your chickens!

Fortunately (if his projections are even close to what happens, and they usually are) Wheaton and IWU are 5th and 8th, respectively.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Pat Coleman has Wheaton and IWU both in (through games of last night)...

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/25/taking-a-whack-at-pool-c/


Interesting.

I'll quickly get on my annual soap box about the conference tournament...

Assuming the host school wins, the conference tournament only hurts the league's Pool C chances.  Two teams go 0-1 and the other 1-1.  The best Pool C candidates leave the tournament with a lower in-region winning % than they entered with.

If we do have to have a tournament, including all 8 teams would make much more sense in terms of Pool C.  That way, the runner-up goes 2-1 and two teams go 1-1.

Fortunately, that handicap is shared by EVERY other conference (except the UAA).

[Titan Q]

Pat Coleman has Wheaton and IWU both in (through games of last night)...

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/25/taking-a-whack-at-pool-c/


Interesting.

I'll quickly get on my annual soap box about the conference tournament...

Assuming the host school wins, the conference tournament only hurts the league's Pool C chances.  Two teams go 0-1 and the other 1-1.  The best Pool C candidates leave the tournament with a lower in-region winning % than they entered with.

If we do have to have a tournament, including all 8 teams would make much more sense in terms of Pool C.  That way, the runner-up goes 2-1 and two teams go 1-1.

Fortunately, that handicap is shared by EVERY other conference (except the UAA).

True...but getting rid of the conference tournament would create a competitive advantage re: Pool C (like I believe the UAA has).

And some conferences are set up better by having more than 4 teams in their tournaments.

[Gregory Sager]

Pat Coleman has Wheaton and IWU both in (through games of last night)...

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/25/taking-a-whack-at-pool-c/


Interesting.

I'll quickly get on my annual soap box about the conference tournament...

Assuming the host school wins, the conference tournament only hurts the league's Pool C chances.  Two teams go 0-1 and the other 1-1.  The best Pool C candidates leave the tournament with a lower in-region winning % than they entered with.

If we do have to have a tournament, including all 8 teams would make much more sense in terms of Pool C.  That way, the runner-up goes 2-1 and two teams go 1-1.

Unfortunately, men's basketball is not allowed to operate in a vacuum in the CCIW. The size and scope of the league tourney is contingent upon what is offered in the CCIW's other sponsored sports with regard to league tourneys. Also, the cost-cutting issues involved in mandating women's/men's doubleheaders in basketball would seem to preclude adding an extra date to the conference schedule by augmenting the CCIW tourney with an everybody-plays quarterfinals round.

Perhaps the cost-cutting initiative might force the league to dispense with the CCIW tournament altogether, which would be just fine with me.

Curse you, Slovaks!!

[Titan Q]

Projected starters for the conference tournament field...

http://www.iwuhoops.com/notes10.htm


Amazingly, out of 20 probable starters, only 3 are seniors:

Seniors: 3
Juniors: 7
Sophs: 6
Fresh: 4


5th place team North Park had just 1 senior starter.  The league is going to be really, really good next year.

[sac]

Curse you, Slovaks!!

I'm guessing Olympic hockey.......it ended very late last night

Slovakia 4 Sweden 3.......which eliminates the Swedes and sets up Canada/Slovakia in the semi-finals.