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veterancciwfan

Is there an official CCIW all-time team?  If not, has the conference ever considered such an idea? It would be interesting to see a 10-member CCIW basketball team. That might be controversial. But it would generate a lot of interest. The legaue was formed in 1947 and choosing the top 10 in over 60 years of action would not be an easy task.

Dennis_Prikkel

Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
Is there an official CCIW all-time team?  If not, has the conference ever considered such an idea? It would be interesting to see a 10-member CCIW basketball team. That might be controversial. But it would generate a lot of interest. The legaue was formed in 1947 and choosing the top 10 in over 60 years of action would not be an easy task.

there is no all-time team - and I, for one, would not want get into the war of picking one.

I think of having one "by decade" would make a lot more sense.

we've argued about this on these pages before - its a can of prunes.
I am determined to be wise, but this was beyond me.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
Is there an official CCIW all-time team?

No.

Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
If not, has the conference ever considered such an idea?

Not sure. And who would be "the conference," in this instance? The commish (Chris Martin)? The assistant commish / SID (Mike Krizman)? The eight ADs? The eight head coaches?

Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PMIt would be interesting to see a 10-member CCIW basketball team. That might be controversial.

"Might be controversial"? Compared to the tempest that naming a ten-man All-Time-CCIW team would create, the congressional debate over the health-care bill would be a coffee klatsch. ;)

Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PMBut it would generate a lot of interest. The legaue was formed in 1947 and choosing the top 10 in over 60 years of action would not be an easy task.

... and there's the rub. As I said yesterday, the passing of the generations who saw the likes of Johnson and Steagall and Warden and Peterson play, and the fact that a lot -- if not most -- of the people likely to create such a team (ADs, coaches, the two league officials) don't go back all that far in terms of league history (Bosko's a notable exception), would render the process highly suspect, if not entirely invalid.



"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Dennis_Prikkel

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 09, 2010, 01:36:10 PM
Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
Is there an official CCIW all-time team?

No.

Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
If not, has the conference ever considered such an idea?

Not sure. And who would be "the conference," in this instance? The commish (Chris Martin)? The assistant commish / SID (Mike Krizman)? The eight ADs? The eight head coaches?

Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PMIt would be interesting to see a 10-member CCIW basketball team. That might be controversial.

"Might be controversial"? Compared to the tempest that naming a ten-man All-Time-CCIW team would create, the congressional debate over the health-care bill would be a coffee klatsch. ;)

Quote from: veterancciwfan on March 09, 2010, 01:23:35 PMBut it would generate a lot of interest. The legaue was formed in 1947 and choosing the top 10 in over 60 years of action would not be an easy task.

... and there's the rub. As I said yesterday, the passing of the generations who saw the likes of Johnson and Steagall and Warden and Peterson play, and the fact that a lot -- if not most -- of the people likely to create such a team (ADs, coaches, the two league officials) don't go back all that far in terms of league history (Bosko's a notable exception), would render the process highly suspect, if not entirely invalid.

so let it be written, so let it be done.
I am determined to be wise, but this was beyond me.

Dennis_Prikkel

Let's start with the center position - for example

Marv Johnson, Wheaton
Jesse Price, Millikin
John Laing, Augustana
Leon Gobczynski, Millikin
Jack Sikma, Illinois Wesleyan
Michael Harper, North Park
Jason Wiertel, Carthage


there aint no way - I want to referree this soiree.
I am determined to be wise, but this was beyond me.

mactitan

I move that the All-Time CCIW team discussion be tabled until August.  Do I have a second?
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coebball70

I second that motion....but, first, is anyone on this board old enough to remember Robert Hildebrand from Illinois Wesleyan?  He played professional basketball in Denver in the early 50's and is the father in the only father-son members of the Illinois Basketball Hall of Fame.  His son, Robert Hildebrand, Jr., played for Northwestern University.  Good luck to all four participants in Stevens Point!  I'm really torn.  My daughter is a Carthage grad in 2007 and I helped Coach Duncan Lawson of IWU for many years!  Glad I'm on the road this weekend.

Dennis_Prikkel

i'll third the motion - but the board seems to be dead - all the IWU backers ran away to their special 'green' room.
I am determined to be wise, but this was beyond me.

Just Bill

I think we've moved into that eerie space before the NCAA Tournament games when posters are afraid of saying their wrong things to either jinx their own team or unintentionally incite their opponent.

On the D3Football boards it's a very pronounced phenomenon.  Lots of talk flying around on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, but chirping crickets on the end of the week.
"That seems silly and pointless..." - Hoops Fan

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Gregory Sager

Quote from: Just Bill on March 10, 2010, 12:26:50 PM
I think we've moved into that eerie space before the NCAA Tournament games when posters are afraid of saying their wrong things to either jinx their own team or unintentionally incite their opponent.

Chuck, of course, is the exception to this tendency. This is from yesterday's banter in the D3 tourney fantasy contest room:

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 09, 2010, 07:48:40 PM
Rudy Kirbus had 36 points in two games and is gone.  My 'worst' pick (Matt Hueber of Merchant Marine) had 39 points in two games and is gone.  While there must be dozens of guys that would have been better, I did better than to pick Kirbus! :D

But, so far, Titan Q still owes me 14 points for 'picking' Sexauer rather than Johnson as my homer pick! ;D  [Maybe we'll get it back as IWU eliminates Stevie D from the tourney! ;)]

Tugging on Superman's cape, or a setup for a big-time postgame Chuck gloatfest? You decide.  :D
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Dennis_Prikkel

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 10, 2010, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 10, 2010, 12:26:50 PM
I think we've moved into that eerie space before the NCAA Tournament games when posters are afraid of saying their wrong things to either jinx their own team or unintentionally incite their opponent.

Chuck, of course, is the exception to this tendency. This is from yesterday's banter in the D3 tourney fantasy contest room:

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 09, 2010, 07:48:40 PM
Rudy Kirbus had 36 points in two games and is gone.  My 'worst' pick (Matt Hueber of Merchant Marine) had 39 points in two games and is gone.  While there must be dozens of guys that would have been better, I did better than to pick Kirbus! :D

But, so far, Titan Q still owes me 14 points for 'picking' Sexauer rather than Johnson as my homer pick! ;D  [Maybe we'll get it back as IWU eliminates Stevie D from the tourney! ;)]

Tugging on Superman's cape, or a setup for a big-time postgame Chuck gloatfest? You decide.  :D

i think Chuckie cuts the Cheese on both sides of the brick.
I am determined to be wise, but this was beyond me.

Mr. Ypsi

Now, Greg, that was NOT nice!

Carthage players no doubt read this board; I figured it was unlikely they'd read the fantasy pool board!  Now you've gone and 'outed' me! >:( ;D

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 10, 2010, 02:35:25 PM
Now, Greg, that was NOT nice!

Carthage players no doubt read this board; I figured it was unlikely they'd read the fantasy pool board!  Now you've gone and 'outed' me! >:( ;D

What, you wanted CCIW Chat to stay quiet for the next 72 hours? ;)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Dennis_Prikkel

Quote from: ball on March 10, 2010, 02:30:54 PM
TV 14, on the Time-Warner Cable system in Kenosha, Somers, and Pleasant Prairie will be showing last weekend's games.

Carthage vs. Aurora:
    * Tonight March 9 at 11pm
    * Thursday March 11 at 12:30am (late Wednesday night)
    * Thursday March 11 at 7am
    * Thursday March 11at 9:30pm

Carthage vs. Anderson:
    * Wednesday March 10 at 1am ( immediately following Game 1)
    * Thursday March 11 at 2:30am (immediately following Game 1)
    * Thursday March 11 at 11am
    * Friday March 12 at 1:30am

P.S. I hung out at North Park yesterday for an hour after doing some shadowing at Swedish Covenant while waiting for a train-- It is a nice campus.

why thank you
I am determined to be wise, but this was beyond me.

Titan Q

Quote from: dennis_prikkel on March 10, 2010, 09:27:56 AM
i'll third the motion - but the board seems to be dead - all the IWU backers ran away to their special 'green' room.


I'm here and very excited about Friday.  Just trying to cram 5 days worth of work into 4 this week!