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TitansIWU

"re establish competence."

You do Sean Johnson's work ethic and effort a huge slight by saying that.

Cheap shot.

Check his four year starter stats before you say something so idiotic.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: TitansIWU on January 17, 2011, 12:06:23 AM
"re establish competence."

You do Sean Johnson's work ethic and effort a huge slight by saying that.

Cheap shot.

Check his four year starter stats before you say something so idiotic.

Wow. Way to completely miss the point and misread the post, TitansIWU.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 17, 2011, 12:11:13 AM
Quote from: TitansIWU on January 17, 2011, 12:06:23 AM
"re establish competence."

You do Sean Johnson's work ethic and effort a huge slight by saying that.

Cheap shot.

Check his four year starter stats before you say something so idiotic.

Wow. Way to completely miss the point and misread the post, TitansIWU.

While it is painful to support a Viking over a Titan, I'm gonna have to side with Greg on this one. :P  Two words: remedial reading. ;)

Gregory Sager

Chuck, you're backing a Viking over a Titan, and meanwhile I'm finding nice things to say about a hater (OurHouse) whose comments are the posting equivalent of a toothache.

It's obviously very late at night. ;)

"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

BTW, best chuckle I had all weekend was when pg04 pointed out the stats on OurHouse's all-thumbs approach to the quote function on this site. :D
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Ralph Turner

#24545
Quote from: Titan Q on January 16, 2011, 11:02:21 AM
Sean Johnson moved into the top 15 of IWU's career scoring list last night...

1. 2272         Jack Sikma (107 games) - 1973-77
2. 2062         Blaise Bugajski (103 games) - 1979-80,81-84
3. 1871         Bryan Crabtree (114 games) - 1993-97
4. 1848         Luke Kasten (109 games) - 1999-03
5. 1833         Greg Yess (107 games) - 1978-82
6. 1782         Korey Coon (109 games) - 1996-00
7. 1688         Zach Freeman (107 games) - 2003-07


Twelve games (thru the CCIW finals) at current avg of 17.7 ppg = 212 pts => 1596pts (8th place)

8. 1590         Keelan Amelianovich (104 games) - 2002-06
9. 1573         Jeff Kuehl (89 games) - 1986-90
   1573         Sheldon Thompson (101 games) - 1967-71


Ten more games at 15ppg = 1534  (11th place)



11. 1475         Adam Dauksas (114 games) - 2002-06
12. 1430         Steve Kuehl (111 games) - 1989-93
13. 1418         Tom Gramkow (93 games) - 1966-70
14. 1384         Sean Johnson (97 games) - 2007-11
15. 1375         John Gibson (97 games) - 1968-72






He is now #4 in 3-pointers made...

1. 252         Keelan Amelianovich (104 games) - 2002-06
2. 245         Korey Coon (109 games) - 1996-00


2.4 3FGM for 12 games = 28  => 243 total (3rd place)

3. 235         Mark Edmundson (113 games) - 1986-90
4. 215         Sean Johnson (97 games) - 2007-11
5. 208         Adam Dauksas (114 games) - 2002-06
6. 179         Bryan Crabtree (114 games) - 1993-97
7. 136         Adam Osborn (90 games) - 1997-01
8. 135         Mark Aubry (71 games) - 1992-95
9. 121         Jordan Zimmer (62 games) - 2008-11
10. 117         Chris Silagi (87 games) - 1999-03






And 12th in assists...

1. 584         Adam Dauksas - 2002-06
2. 524         Brian Martin - 1989-93
3. 449         Chad Hutson - 1991-95
4. 407         Brad Gregurich - 1979-83
5. 377         Paul Petersen - 1984-88
6. 374         Travis Rosenkranz - 2007-11
7. 356         Ron Rose - 1984-88
8. 348         Eric Bridges - 1983-87
9. 335         Nathan Hubbard - 1995-99
10. 326         David Kunka - 1988-91,92-93


3.133 assists for 12 more games = 37 => 321 total assists

11. 316         Keith Luechtefeld - 1983-87
12. 284         Sean Johnson - 2007-11


Sean has really been a good player for Ron Rose and the Titans.
Should be a nice thing to follow for IWU fans.

John Gleich

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 16, 2011, 09:59:09 PM
When's the last time anybody did that to Wheaton?

Conventionally, or otherwise?  It was done twice to Wheaton last year... once by Grinnell (55 in second half) and once by Pomona-Pitzer (69 in the second half plus 4 OT's).

Grinnell did it the year before, though I think all three of these could have footnotes...


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NCAA appearances: 2018, '15, '14, '13, '12, '11, '10, '09, '08, '07, '05, '04, '03, '00, 1997

WIAC/WSUC Champs: 2015, '14, '13, '11, '09, '07, '05, '03, '02, '01, '00, 1993, '92, '87, '86, '85, '84, '83, '82, '69, '61, '57, '48, '42, '37, '36, '35, '33, '18

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John Gleich

I found a few more...

La Grange put up 53 in 2000

North Park put up 55 in 02

North Central put up 59 in 03  (Was this the last time Wheaton beat North Central in Naperville?)

Augustana put up 56 in '03 as well

Redlands (System...) put up 60 and 66

And Hope put up 50 in '05.


Not a ton, though!
UWSP Men's Basketball

National Champions: 2015, 2010, 2005, 2004

NCAA appearances: 2018, '15, '14, '13, '12, '11, '10, '09, '08, '07, '05, '04, '03, '00, 1997

WIAC/WSUC Champs: 2015, '14, '13, '11, '09, '07, '05, '03, '02, '01, '00, 1993, '92, '87, '86, '85, '84, '83, '82, '69, '61, '57, '48, '42, '37, '36, '35, '33, '18

Twitter: @JohnGleich

Mr. Ypsi

#24548
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2011, 12:41:42 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on January 16, 2011, 11:02:21 AM
Sean Johnson moved into the top 15 of IWU's career scoring list last night...

1. 2272         Jack Sikma (107 games) - 1973-77
2. 2062         Blaise Bugajski (103 games) - 1979-80,81-84
3. 1871         Bryan Crabtree (114 games) - 1993-97
4. 1848         Luke Kasten (109 games) - 1999-03
5. 1833         Greg Yess (107 games) - 1978-82
6. 1782         Korey Coon (109 games) - 1996-00
7. 1688         Zach Freeman (107 games) - 2003-07


Twelve games (thru the CCIW finals) at current avg of 17.7 ppg = 212 pts => 1596pts (8th place)

8. 1590         Keelan Amelianovich (104 games) - 2002-06
9. 1573         Jeff Kuehl (89 games) - 1986-90
   1573         Sheldon Thompson (101 games) - 1967-71


Ten more games at 15ppg = 1534  (11th place)



11. 1475         Adam Dauksas (114 games) - 2002-06
12. 1430         Steve Kuehl (111 games) - 1989-93
13. 1418         Tom Gramkow (93 games) - 1966-70
14. 1384         Sean Johnson (97 games) - 2007-11
15. 1375         John Gibson (97 games) - 1968-72






He is now #4 in 3-pointers made...

1. 252         Keelan Amelianovich (104 games) - 2002-06
2. 245         Korey Coon (109 games) - 1996-00


2.4 3FGM for 12 games = 28  => 243 total (3rd place)

3. 235         Mark Edmundson (113 games) - 1986-90
4. 215         Sean Johnson (97 games) - 2007-11
5. 208         Adam Dauksas (114 games) - 2002-06
6. 179         Bryan Crabtree (114 games) - 1993-97
7. 136         Adam Osborn (90 games) - 1997-01
8. 135         Mark Aubry (71 games) - 1992-95
9. 121         Jordan Zimmer (62 games) - 2008-11
10. 117         Chris Silagi (87 games) - 1999-03






And 12th in assists...

1. 584         Adam Dauksas - 2002-06
2. 524         Brian Martin - 1989-93
3. 449         Chad Hutson - 1991-95
4. 407         Brad Gregurich - 1979-83
5. 377         Paul Petersen - 1984-88
6. 374         Travis Rosenkranz - 2007-11
7. 356         Ron Rose - 1984-88
8. 348         Eric Bridges - 1983-87
9. 335         Nathan Hubbard - 1995-99
10. 326         David Kunka - 1988-91,92-93


3.133 assists for 12 more games = 37 => 321 total assists

11. 316         Keith Luechtefeld - 1983-87
12. 284         Sean Johnson - 2007-11


Sean has really been a good player for Ron Rose and the Titans.
Should be a nice thing to follow for IWU fans.

Thanks for the calculations!  We Titans fans of course hope for MORE than 12 more games (18 would be awfully nice! ;D)

Shouldn't overlook Travis Rosenkranz - once he returns, he should hit top five on assists in his first game back!  If he can return soon enough, top 4 or even 3 is not out of reach.

IF the Titans make a deep tourney run, I'd say Sean is nearly 50-50 to take first place in 3-pointers made.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: PointSpecial on January 17, 2011, 01:11:41 AM
I found a few more...

La Grange put up 53 in 2000

North Park put up 55 in 02

North Central put up 59 in 03  (Was this the last time Wheaton beat North Central in Naperville?)

Augustana put up 56 in '03 as well

Redlands (System...) put up 60 and 66

And Hope put up 50 in '05.


Not a ton, though!

Research efforts duly noted and applauded, PS. Insomnia keeping you up as well, or did you spend the entire night texting your ex-teammates from UWSP and making bets with them on next weekend's NFC Championship game? ;)
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Hoosier Titan

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 16, 2011, 11:29:31 PM

The post by iwu70 had some pretty strong kudos towards the Titans:

Quote from: iwu70 on January 15, 2011, 10:44:09 PMMost outstanding game in a long long time by Sean Johnson

Quote from: iwu70 on January 15, 2011, 10:44:09 PMand a very solid, good game by Doug Sexauer.  Good to see.

That's more than simple relief that the two Titans stars are "back on track" -- you don't use the word "outstanding" in connection to re-established competence. And both comments absolutely beg for context, given that the opponent was Elmhurst and the game was in the Shirk Center.


I have not seen much "bragging" by anyone here, and I was going to let all this go by.  I've got to jump in here, though.  I don't think it's misreading Greg's comment about "re-established competence" as referring to Sean Johnson, with the implication that he--or perhaps he and Doug Sexauer, since Greg talks about the "two Titans stars"--have recently been less than competent.  If that's not the correct interpretation of what you wrote, Greg, please clarify.

Sean Johnson has had a lot of great games this season.  He scored 35 against Monmouth and 34 against Dominican in November, and 29 against Wash U in December.  He was in obvious pain in the game against North Central, where he didn't score a lot, and so it was good from the Titan perspective to see him score 28, lead the team in rebounds with 6, have 7 assists to go with 1 turnover, and 2 steals.  I started this paragraph with the point of view that it was pretty much another Sean Johnson game, but iwu70 is right--it was an outstanding game, and more than "competent".  I'd applaud that performance no matter what team the player who put it up played for, and Greg usually is generous enough to applaud good play as well. 

Regarding iwu70's comment about Doug Sexauer, I don't see complimenting someone who scored 18 points for a "very good, solid game" as "bragging." 

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John Gleich

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 17, 2011, 11:49:27 AM
Research efforts duly noted and applauded, PS. Insomnia keeping you up as well, or did you spend the entire night texting your ex-teammates from UWSP and making bets with them on next weekend's NFC Championship game? ;)

Listening to Hoopsville, actually.  ... And quasi-insomnia.

And I actually don't have to go any farther than my own household to get opinions on this weekend's match up... my wife is a native Wisconsinite and had the audacity to not only cheer for the Packers in my house... but to dress my children in green and gold!

The game on Sunday is in Chicago, though, so they get to wear their Bears stuff this weekend!  They've told me as best two-year-olds can that they're very happy about this!
UWSP Men's Basketball

National Champions: 2015, 2010, 2005, 2004

NCAA appearances: 2018, '15, '14, '13, '12, '11, '10, '09, '08, '07, '05, '04, '03, '00, 1997

WIAC/WSUC Champs: 2015, '14, '13, '11, '09, '07, '05, '03, '02, '01, '00, 1993, '92, '87, '86, '85, '84, '83, '82, '69, '61, '57, '48, '42, '37, '36, '35, '33, '18

Twitter: @JohnGleich

TitansIWU

Hoosier Titan,

That is exactly how I took his comment, and I am relieved to see that I do not need to enroll in the "remedial reading" class as another suggested.

or,

you and I both need the class.




iwu70

Chuck, thanks for your kind defense.  And, thanks for all the other comments about my posting about Titans' performances last week.  We are all aware of the weaker opponents of the week, etc.  Of course, there are more meaningful and important games ahead, but it sure is better being 3-1 than 1-3.  We are in touch with Augie and will have our chances to make a true conference race of it.

Yes, I'm out here in the "FAR East.", but not out of touch.  Luckily, I was in Bloomington most of the fall on sabbatical and attended all the scrimmages, watched the JV team play, and saw the first 4-5 games of the season.  Now, I follow closely thanks to all your gentlemen, boxes, d3hoops.com, the IWU site, Q's site and, of course, the very good streaming video that some programs provide.  I often listen to WJBC game coverage.   I've watched additional games, including the recent ones in California, so have actually attended or watched perhaps 9-10 games this season.  You can call me the loyal far-distant fan.   So at this point in the season, I have a pretty good sense of the Titans. 

I still feel it has not all come together in an entirely fruitful and positive way . . . and still continue to have the view that Doug Sexauer is not having a strong season to date.  Hence, my comments about Ryan Connolly.  From early on til now, Sexauer just did not appear at full steam, was pushed off the block in scrimmages, and had several games of few points and few rebounds.  As one of the key weapons of the overall Titan attack (as Q has pointed out), of course, this is a concern.  We will see how he rises to the occasion vs. Augie, Wheaton, and in the rematch at the Shirk with Carthage.  (Perhaps he caught mono earlier from Victor Davis and we just didn't know.) :D

The Titans have been hit by injuries, illnesses and inconsistent play . . . and now Davis and Rosenkranz are out, necessitating yet another round of adjustments and redo's of the rotation.  I have great faith in Eliud, in Rudnicki, Schick and Schouten, having seen them play consistently hard and well earlier in the season.  Q was right that having them play earlier in the season would rebound in a positive way later on . . . and now that is coming to pass.  But, for it to come together, we'll need more output on a consistent basis -- in scoring, rebounding, and defenisive play, from JZim and Kman.  The role players and subs are doing their jobs pretty well -- so the starters, the so-called marquee players on this senior-led group have to make their mark now . . . in the coming few key games.  I have no doubt that Sean Johnson will be a gamer and play big.  Look at the record and the consistency in the past years.  But, bigger, more consistent contributions are now needed esp. from Sexauer, Connolly, Kman, JZim and Matt Schick.  Win a few key road games, and make a good statement vs. Wheaton and Augie upcoming, the conference race can tighten again easily. 

As to the Women Titans, I feel a similar scenario is there for Hope Schulte to put down her mark during her senior year . . . and bring all the other talented Titans, very deep Titans along.  So far Arlis Stacy and Nikki Preston are doing more to carry the load.  Overall, I think the women have a better chance to win the league, even going 14-0 or 13-1, and having a deep tourney run . . . with focus and consistency in the more important big games coming up again with Carthage and Millikin.  I have great confidence from watching them closely as well that this kind of run, a conference championship, and a deep run into the DIII dance is possible. (even having seen them be taken apart by WI, Whitewater in one of the most puzzling Titan performances in a long long time).   We all hope they return to Shirk for a home Final Four.  It would be grand. 

No bragging, just some strong confidence and encouragement for two exceptional Titan teams over the past 2-3 years.  The pieces are all there for an amazing year for both teams . . . but it all has to be put together better than heretofore. 

wheels81

GS wrtoe:
'....they did force Wheaton to get a lot more of its points from the FT line (where the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance went 17-20 on the night, the stat that best explains why the hosts won the game). "

The attempts Wheaton got in the game were 14 in the last 2 minutes and at least 12 of those were due to  stratgegy as NP was making 3's and immediately fouling anytime that Wheaton got possession.   This was the reasonable strategy given the SAD's ( :)) performance this year at the free throw line. 
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