MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Titan Q]

Seniors from the Illinois Basketball Services "Large School" all-state team:

PLAYER OF THE YEAR:
CHASSON RANDLE, 6'2", Senior, Rock Island  Stanford (D1)

FIRST TEAM:
MAX BIELFELDT, 6'8", Senior, Peoria Notre Dame  Michigan (D1)
WAYNE BLACKSHEAR, 6'5", Senior, Chicago Morgan Park  Louisville (D1)
RYAN BOATRIGHT, 5'10", Senior, Aurora East  U Conn (D1)
ANTHONY DAVIS, 6'10", Senior, Chicago Perspectives MSA  Kentucky (D1)
NNANNA EGWU, 6'9", Senior, Chicago St. Ignatius  Illinois (D1)
MYCHAEL HENRY, 6'6", Senior, Chicago Orr  Illinois (D1)
JORDAN NELSON, 5'11", Senior, Lincoln Evansville (D1)
MIKE SHAW, 6'8", Senior, Chicago De LaSalle  Illinois (D1)
SAM THOMPSON, 6'7", Senior, Chicago Whitney Young  Ohio St (D1)

SECOND TEAM:
TRACY ABRAMS, 6'1", Senior, Chicago Mt. Carmel Illinois (D1)
MACARI BROOKS, 6'3", Senior, Richton Park Rich South  DePaul (D1)
JAMIE CROCKETT, 6'4", Senior, Crete-Monee  DePaul (D1)
JOHNNY HILL, 6'3", Senior, Lombard Glenbard East  Illinois State (D1)
ROOSEVELT JONES, 6'4", Senior, O'Fallon  Butler (D1)
FRANK KAMINSKY, 6'10", Senior, Lisle Benet Academy  Wisconsin (D1)
GEORGE MARSHALL, 5'11", Senior, Chicago Brooks  Wisconsin (D1)
DAVID SOBOLEWSKI, 6', Senior, Lisle Benet Academy  Northwestern (D1)
DONIVINE STEWART, 6'1", Senior, Bartonville Limestone  Bradley (D1)

THIRD TEAM:
AARON ADEOYE, 6'6", Senior, Marion  Ball State (D1)
JACCOBY ANDERSON, 5'11", Senior, Springfield Southeast  Chicago State (D1)
D'LANDO CARTER, 6'0, Senior, Danville  Southeastern Community College (JC)
QUINTON CHIEVOUS, 6'5", Senior, Niles Notre Dame  Tennessee (D1)
DESHAWN DELANEY, 6'6", Senior, Chicago Carver  Vincennes U. (JC)
ZACH MILLER, 5'9", Senior, Lombard (IL) Glenbard East  Northern Illinois (D1)
KEANTE MINOR, 6'2", Senior, East St. Louis  Arkansas (D1) - football
ABDEL NADER, 6'6", Senior, Niles North  Northern Illinois (D1)
JOSH PIPER, 6'8", Senior, Champaign Centennial  Eastern Illinois (D1)
MIKE POWELL, 5'10", Senior, Chicago Brooks  Rhode Island (D1)

FOURTH TEAM:
JEROME BROWN, 6'5", Senior, Chicago Morgan Park  Illinois-Chicago (D1)
JULIUS BROWN, 5'10", Senior, Country Club Hills Hillcrest  Toledo (D1)
JOEY MILLER, 6'3", Senior, Charleston  Eastern Illinois (D1)
DAVID MOLINARI, 6'1", Senior, Peoria Notre Dame Illinois Wesleyan (D3)
KANE SWEENEY, 6'4", Senior, Belleville West  Morehead State (D1) - baseball
KIEFER SYKES, 5'10", Senior, Chicago Marshall  UW-Green Bay (D1)
DEMETRIUS TOLLIVER, 6'5", Senior, Chicago Farragut
MIKE TURNER, 6'8", Senior, Chicago University  Northwestern (D1)
TY NEAL, 5'11", Senior, Carbondale  Murray State (D1)
DARIAN WHITE, 6'3", Senior, Peoria Central  Chicago State (D1)

FIFTH TEAM:
DAVARIS DANIELS, 6'3", Senior, Vernon Hills  Notre Dame (D1) - football
MIKE DOMBROWSKI, 5'11", Senior, Johnsburg  Carthage (D3)
JAKE EVERLY, 6'2", Senior, Woodstock Marian Central Catholic  Hope (D3)
DAVID FRANKLIN, 6'3", Senior, Belleville Althoff
NIC HOEPFNER, 6'5", Senior, East Moline  Parkland (JC)
NICK HOFMAN, 6'3", Senior, Algonquin Jacobs
RYAN JACKSON, 6'1", Senior, Riverside-Brookfield  Lewis (D2)
LUKE JOHNSON, 6'9", Senior, Wheaton Academy  Carthage (D3)

HONORABLE MENTION:
DREW ANDERSON, 6'7", Senior, Rockford Christian  U. of Illinois (D1) - football walk-on
KORY BILLUPS, 6'3", Senior, Chicago Crane
DREW BLUMENSHINE, 6'9", Senior, Peoria Notre Dame Illinois Wesleyan (D3)
TONY BRADLEY, 6'3", Senior, Alton  Southwestern Illinois (JC)
KRIS BREWER, 6'4", Senior, Carbondale Brehm Prep  Kent State (D1)
ROBERT CALMESE, 5'11", Senior, Decatur Eisenhower
JEFF CLARK, 6'2", Senior, Marion
RAKEEM DICKERSON, 6'1", Senior, Carbondale Brehm Prep  Arkansas State (D1)
JONATHAN DOSS, 6'4", Senior, Chicago Taft
GEORGE EDWARDS, 6'5", Senior, Chicago Foreman  Gillette College (JC)
DYLAN ENNIS, 6'2", Senior, Lake Forest Academy  Rice (D1)
JAMES FARR, 6'8', Senior, Evanston  Xavier (D1)
AHMAN FELLS, 6'5", Senior, Chicago Simeon  Illinois-Chicago (D1)
ARMANI FLANNIGAN, 6'7", Senior, Rockford Boylan Catholic
MARK GILCHRESE, 5'9", Senior, Springfield  Parkland (JC)
KEITH GRAY, 6'7", Senior, Chicago Brooks  Northern Illinois (D1)
DESHAWN GREER, 6'5", Senior, Chicago Hyde Park
LUKE HAGER, 6'6", Senior, Chicago Whitney Young  UNC-Wilimington (D1)
ANDRE HENLEY, 6'4", Senior, Chicago De La Salle  Northern Illinois (D1)
SHAQUILLE HINES, 6'5", Senior, Chicago Harlan
GARRETT JONES, 6'1", Senior, Evanston  New Hampshire (D1)
DEJI IBITAYO, 6'3", Senior, Rich Central  Akron (D1)
WILL JENKINS, 6'3", Senior, Peoria Richwoods
TRAVIS KELLUM, 6'6", Senior, Peoria Central
JACK KRIEGER, 6'4", Junior, Plainfield North  St. Xavier (NAIA)
KISTON LEE, 6'3", Senior, Decatur (IL) MacArthur
TYLER LUNDEEN, 6'6", Senior, Morton  Triton (JC)
BRIAN MADSON, 6'5", Senior, McHenry  Lake Forest (D3)
STANLEY MALCOLM, 5'10", Senior, Chicago Brooks
DERRICK MARKS, 6'2", Senior, Plainfield (IL) Central  Boise State (D1)
GREG MAYS, 6'8", Senior, Crete-Monee (IL)  UW-Green Bay (D1)
RASHAUN MCGREW, 6'7", Senior, Chicago Vocational  Chicago State (D1)
RASHAWN MCELRATH, 6'6", Senior, Chicago Simeon
ZACH MONAGHAN, 6'2", Senior, Fremd (IL)  South Dakota St (D1)
MATT PALUCKI, 6'7", Senior, Park Ridge Maine South  Washington U. (D3)
TYWON PINCKNEY, 5'10", Senior, Chicago Simeon
TREVOR RICHARDS, 6'1", Senior, Breese Mater Dei  Drury (D2) - baseball
T.J. RIGGS, 6'3", Senior, Bloomington  Ashland U. (D2)
REMY ROBERTS-BURNETT, 5'10", Senior, Joliet West  Western Illinois (D1)
LATREE RUSSELL, 6'6", Senior, Bolingbrook  Des Moines Area Community College (JC)
RYAN SAWVELL, 6'8", Senior, Mundelein  Evansville (D1)
NATHANIEL SMITH, 6'4", Senior, Lincoln  Loras (D3)
CARSON SONNENBERG, 6'5", Senior, Belleville Althoff
DYLAN SPARKMAN, 6'9", Senior,, East Peoria  Illinois-Springfield (D2)
TYRONE STAGGERS, 6'5", Senior, Chicago St. Ignatius Prep
WILL SULLIVAN, 6'2", Senior, Elmhurst York  Northern Illiinois (D1)
MIKE SUTTER, 6'4", Senior, Woodstock  Trinity Christian (NAIA)
KEIFER SYKES, 5'9", Senior, Chicago Marshall UW-Green Bay (D1)
GREG TRAVIS, 5'11", Senior, Chicago Curie  Illinois-Chicago (D1)
DAN TRIMBLE, 6'8", Senior, Geneva  West Georgia (D2)
ELLIOT VAUGHN, 6'6", Senior, Batavia  Roosevelt (NAIA)
LETRELL VISER, 5'11", Senior, Aurora East
DEVANTE WILKINS, 6'2", Chicago Carver  Richard J. Daley (JC)
GABE WILLIAMS, 5'10", Senior, Chicago Farragut
JEREMY WOHLTMAN, 6'4", Senior, Effingham
NICK ZEISLOFT, 6'3", Senior, Lyons  Illinois State (D1)

[Titan Q]

Seniors from IBS "Small School" First through Fifth teams...

SMALL SCHOOL PLAYER OF THE YEAR:
AARON ARMSTEAD, 6'4", Senior, Chicago Hales Franciscan  UW-Green Bay (D1)

FIRST TEAM:
KYLE ANDERSON, 6'2", Senior, Newark  Delaware (D1)
SAM FORD, 6'2", Senior, Oregon  
JERROD GASTON, 6'2", Senior, Murphysboro  Vincennes U. (JC)
BRAD HAMILTON, 6'1", Senior, Pittsfield  John Wood (JC)  
JAKOB JUNIS, 6'3", Senior, Rock Falls  North Carolina State (D1) - baseball
JOEL LEARNARD, 6'5", Senior, Catlin Salt Fork  Illinois State (D1) - baseball
TYLER MCLANE, 6'2", Senior, East Dubuque  Wayne State (D2)


SECOND TEAM:
KYLE FLOYD, 6'2", Senior, Windsor  Kaskaskia (JC)
HAYDEN HOERDEMANN, 6'3", Senior, Bloomington Central Catholic  Western Michigan (D1)
JENS KENNEDY, 6'9", Senior, Dwight  Quincy (D2)
COLLIN MINGO, 6'7", Senior, Springfield Calvary Academy  Lindenwood-Belleville (USCAA)
DYLAN OVERSTREET, 6'3", Senior, Paxton-Buckley-Loda  Illinois Wesleyan (D3)
NICK SCHUMACHER, 6'5", Senior, Teutopolis  
CONNOR WHEELER, 6'1", Senior, DuQuoin  Illinois Wesleyan (D3)

THIRD TEAM:
JOHN AVERY, 6'5", Senior, Newark
PAUL BEENE, 5'10", Senior, Chicago Leo
DEREK BOURKE, 6'2", Senior, Nokomis
DYLAN CRAIG, 6'1", Senior, Murphysboro  Illinois State (D1) - baseball
CODEY FUNK, 6'6", Senior, El Paso-Gridley  Western Illinois (D1) - football
DYLAN GUTHRIE, 6'1", Senior, Winchester West Central MacMurray (D3)
PHIL KUNZ, 6'7", Senior, Trenton Wesclin
BRAYDEN TEUSCHER, 6'2", Senior, Rockford Christian  Washington U. (D3)

FOURTH TEAM:
ANDY ADAMS, 6'1", Senior, Orion
COREY AYALA, 6'1", Senior, Metropolis Massac County  Rend Lake (JC)
SAM BROWN, 6'2", Senior, Nashville
MATT CARLSON, 6'1", Senior, Kewanee
EANN COX, 6'2", Senior, Erie  Kirkwood Community College - baseball
MATT KRAUSE, 6'1", Senior, Deer Creek-Mackinaw  Wheaton (D3) - baseball (basketball?)
ADAM KUNKEL, 5'10", Senior, Red Bud  John A. Logan (JC) - baseball
DAN OLSON, 6'9", Senior, Cullom Tri Point
DRAKE VERMILLION, 6'8", Senior, Beardstown  Quincy (D2)
CLAYTON WHITLOCK, 6'8", Senior, Springfield Calvary Academy  MacMurray (D3)

FIFTH TEAM:
NATE DEVENNEY, 6'0", Senior, Manlius Bureau Valley
JAKE DEJAEGER, 6'2", Senior, Annawan
MAURICE JOINER, 6'5", Senior, Chicago Leo
ALEX KOCH, 6'5", Senior, Chillicothe Illinois Valley Central
CALVIN LEWIS, 6'5", Senior, Toulon Stark County  Joliet Junior College - football
MATT MASER, 6'2", Senior, Westville
KODY MICHAEL, 6'9", Senior, Forreston
MICHAEL MURRAY, 6'2", Senior, Princeton  Illinois Valley Community College
CODY OWEN, 6'1", Senior, Chrisman
TERREL WILLIAMS, 5'9", Senior, South Beloit

[AndOne]

4. I believe it was Titan Q, he the originator of the term "assclown" to describe a poster whose opinion he disagreed with

Hey, finally something we agree on -- I definitely called you an assclown.  Maybe we're breaking new ground.

4. I believe it was Titan Q, he the originator of the term "assclown" to describe a poster whose opinion he disagreed with, who last year labeled Mr. Pierce an "embarrassment" to the Carthage program. Lord knows that he and I have had occasion to differ on both form and substance. However, in this case, I believe a majority of those, myself included, who have observed Red Men Mr. Pierce and Mr. Guzman would be in agreement with his description.   

Or, more properly, the COMPLETE quote showing what we agree on is your identifying the concerned players as an "embarrassment."   

As far as the use of the term "assclown" we agree it was you who coined the term.

However, I'd submit that the real ass is the one who needed to resort to a profane term to describe another poster with whom he disagreed. 

[pgkevin]

Not taking sides, I just love the term assclown.  I appreciate and encourage any and all usage of the term

[bopol]

4. I believe it was Titan Q, he the originator of the term "assclown" to describe a poster whose opinion he disagreed with

Hey, finally something we agree on -- I definitely called you an assclown.  Maybe we're breaking new ground.

4. I believe it was Titan Q, he the originator of the term "assclown" to describe a poster whose opinion he disagreed with, who last year labeled Mr. Pierce an "embarrassment" to the Carthage program. Lord knows that he and I have had occasion to differ on both form and substance. However, in this case, I believe a majority of those, myself included, who have observed Red Men Mr. Pierce and Mr. Guzman would be in agreement with his description.   

Or, more properly, the COMPLETE quote showing what we agree on is your identifying the concerned players as an "embarrassment."   

As far as the use of the term "assclown" we agree it was you who coined the term.

However, I'd submit that the real ass is the one who needed to resort to a profane term to describe another poster with whom he disagreed. 

So let me get this right, you act in bad taste and then when someone calls you something in bad taste, you're offended?  

That's rich.  

[bopol]

Not taking sides, I just love the term assclown.  I appreciate and encourage any and all usage of the term

Would you even consider it profane?  I wouldn't.

[Gregory Sager]

Luke Johnson will be a very good fit at Carthage if he likes to rebound.  Whatever others say about the conditioning of the Carthage bigs last year, the biggest problem they had was rebounding and there lack of.  Pierce is a very good player in many respect, but his D is a touch slow and his rebounding isn't that good.  Thompson lets himself get out of position too much on D.  Johnson may be able to complement both of these guys and help out a lot.

The other speculation on why he chose Carthage over other schools and describing certain Carthage bigs as "embarassments" is in poor taste and people here should try to show more respect for the 18 to 22 year old kids they are talking about.

bopol---

1. If Luke Johnson doesn't "like" to rebound chances are high that Bosko won't "like" to play him very much.
2. You stated the biggest problem the Carthage bigs had last year "was rebounding and there (their?) lack of." Evidently you don't understand the fact that because two of the Carthage bigs each weigh 290 pounds, they a) aren't quick enough to get to many rebounds and b) can't jump high enough to control it. Accordingly, they are not able to rebound as well as you might expect.
3. Regarding Tyler Pierce you stated  "his D is a touch slow and his rebounding isn't that good." And the answer is---he weighs 290 pounds for God sake.
4. I believe it was Titan Q, he the originator of the term "assclown" to describe a poster whose opinion he disagreed with, who last year labeled Mr. Pierce an "embarrassment" to the Carthage program. Lord knows that he and I have had occasion to differ on both form and substance. However, in this case, I believe a majority of those, myself included, who have observed Red Men Mr. Pierce and Mr. Guzman would be in agreement with his description.   
5. As far as your assertion that "people here should try to show more respect for the 18 to 22 year old "kids" they are talking about." Perhaps some of those 18 to 22 year olds should show more respect to themselves.
6. While they may be "kids" especially compared to a fossil like me, in college its called MEN'S basketball, not BOY'S basketball. Upon graduation to the MEN'S league, these young men lose some of the protection rightfully afforded to them as boys.

Andone, agree on 1.  Bosko needs rebounding.

2-6, pretty much the bad taste I was talking about.  No reason to talk about student-athletes that way, but no sense in encouraging you.  For whatever reason, the other forums I read on college sports can handle that, but not here. 

This is the sort of thing that has a way of working itself out in a program that is doing a good job of recruiting. What I mean by that is this: Mitch Thompson came into the Carthage program as part of a trio of freshman bigs alongside Tyler Pierce and Raul Guzman, and he's turned out to be a good player who might get even better. Last year the Red Men added yet another front-liner, Nick Bauch, who also shows signs of becoming an accomplished CCIW big man. Now Carthage has added Luke Johnson, and, while nobody knows yet if he'll pan out, the preliminaries on him are very favorable.

In other words, because Carthage has kept on adding quality bigs, the whole debate that you two are having over whether or not it's acceptable to cast aspersions upon Pierce and Guzman for their lack of dietary self-control may eventually become moot. If Bosko has other bigs who have conditioning and mobility to go along with their size and talent, Pierce and Guzman will find themselves stuck on the bench and therefore irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary.

Not taking sides, I just love the term assclown.  I appreciate and encourage any and all usage of the term

Would you even consider it profane?  I wouldn't.

I believe that the term used in polite society is "donkeyjester."

[Mr. Ypsi]

Not taking sides, I just love the term assclown.  I appreciate and encourage any and all usage of the term

Would you even consider it profane?  I wouldn't.

Certainly only borderline, at most.

Reminds me of one of my nephews (now 27, then 3 or 4) who 'cussed' by saying "poop your butt".  I found it hilarious, but his parents were not amused.

[bopol]

This is the sort of thing that has a way of working itself out in a program that is doing a good job of recruiting. What I mean by that is this: Mitch Thompson came into the Carthage program as part of a trio of freshman bigs alongside Tyler Pierce and Raul Guzman, and he's turned out to be a good player who might get even better. Last year the Red Men added yet another front-liner, Nick Bauch, who also shows signs of becoming an accomplished CCIW big man. Now Carthage has added Luke Johnson, and, while nobody knows yet if he'll pan out, the preliminaries on him are very favorable.

In other words, because Carthage has kept on adding quality bigs, the whole debate that you two are having over whether or not it's acceptable to cast aspersions upon Pierce and Guzman for their lack of dietary self-control may eventually become moot. If Bosko has other bigs who have conditioning and mobility to go along with their size and talent, Pierce and Guzman will find themselves stuck on the bench and therefore irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary.

Bauch did improve a lot last year.  My biggest problem with Thompson is that let's the player he is defending get the ball too deep in the paint (like he's not quite strong enough), and he gets himself out of position on rebounds on defense by going for blocks.  I swear you can see him start to drool when a guard comes into the lane.  Both problems are fixable. 

I think Pierce will continue to play a role. Unlike Thompson, you can't move him and he is a good passer for a bigger man.  I sometimes wonder if Pierce shouldn't be a tightend instead of a basketball player.

In the case of Guzman, I think he'll be hurt by the loss of Steve D.  His value came in his plus shooting when he was open and Steve D's driving created a lot of opportunities for him.  We saw less of that last year (both Steve D's driving and Raul Guzman's shooting) and I don't think Malcom Kelly will be able to set him up the same way.  The unique skill set can still shake things up, but I think he'll be more of a role player going forward.

On the guard/small forward side, I am feeling pretty good even though Steve D is gone.  Kelly is a very good player and Max Cary can be excellent at times.  Hopefully we see a more consistant effort out of both this year.  With Dombrowski coming in and Kladis (I like his hustle), I think they could set a very good 8-9 man rotation and create mismatches.  Next year should be very interesting.

[petemcb]

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If Bosko has other bigs who have conditioning and mobility to go along with their size and talent, Pierce and Guzman will find themselves stuck on the bench and therefore irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary.

[

So, after how many years, we've finally stumbled upon the proverbial needle in a haystack:  something "....irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary".  Leave it to Greg to find it.  

[devildog29]

[
If Bosko has other bigs who have conditioning and mobility to go along with their size and talent, Pierce and Guzman will find themselves stuck on the bench and therefore irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary.

[

So, after how many years, we've finally stumbled upon the proverbial needle in a haystack:  something "....irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary".  Leave it to Greg to find it.  

However, if you can figure out a way to work it into a Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference, it immediately becomes relevant again, perhaps even karma worthy........

[petemcb]

Bopol, thanks for getting it back to basketball.  It seems like we were getting a little cantankerous (too lazy to check the spelling) in here lately.

[Gregory Sager]

[
If Bosko has other bigs who have conditioning and mobility to go along with their size and talent, Pierce and Guzman will find themselves stuck on the bench and therefore irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary.

[

So, after how many years, we've finally stumbled upon the proverbial needle in a haystack:  something "....irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary".  Leave it to Greg to find it.  

However, if you can figure out a way to work it into a Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference, it immediately becomes relevant again, perhaps even karma worthy........

Well, perhaps if Pierce and Guzman were to join the Knights Who Say "Ni" ...

[petemcb]

[
If Bosko has other bigs who have conditioning and mobility to go along with their size and talent, Pierce and Guzman will find themselves stuck on the bench and therefore irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary.

[

So, after how many years, we've finally stumbled upon the proverbial needle in a haystack:  something "....irrelevant to any CCIW Chat commentary".  Leave it to Greg to find it.  

However, if you can figure out a way to work it into a Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference, it immediately becomes relevant again, perhaps even karma worthy........

That's the way to "always look on the bright side of life" (whistles a while and then returns with) Always look on the bright side of life"......  Do I get credit for Life of Brian or does it have to be Holy Grail?

[petemcb]

Not taking sides, I just love the term assclown.  I appreciate and encourage any and all usage of the term

Would you even consider it profane?  I wouldn't.

I believe that the term used in polite society is "donkeyjester."
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