MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

I don't know how many of you are readers of the MIAA room, but this announcement was posted in there the other day.

Thoughts, anyone?

[Titan Q]

Matt Nadelhoffer tweets...

https://twitter.com/#!/CoachNgoBIGBLUE


3/27 - When it Rains it pours-another big blue member has landed! Welcome to the family...

3/27 - Welcome to the Big Blue-another commitment today!

3/26 - Landed another recruit today-things are looking good!

3/23 - Great few days for the Big Blue! Remember the date...

3/5 - Big day on the road for the Big Blue-off to MICHIGAN all day and night and then to Chicago Tuesday-must get better

3/1 - Got another call from a big 6'8 230 post-he says Coach I have decided to attend Millikin-welcome to the Big Blue Family my man-

2/29 - Just got a phone call from a recruit-welcome to the Big Blue Family my man-

[NCF]

I don't know how many of you are readers of the MIAA room, but this announcement was posted in there the other day.

Thoughts, anyone?

Four very qualified coaches.And a great opportunity for the man chosen for the job.

[NCF]

Matt Nadelhoffer tweets…

https://twitter.com/#!/CoachNgoBIGBLUE


3/27 - When it Rains it pours-another big blue member has landed! Welcome to the family...

3/27 - Welcome to the Big Blue-another commitment today!

3/26 - Landed another recruit today-things are looking good!

3/23 - Great few days for the Big Blue! Remember the date...

3/5 - Big day on the road for the Big Blue-off to MICHIGAN all day and night and then to Chicago Tuesday-must get better

3/1 - Got another call from a big 6'8 230 post-he says Coach I have decided to attend Millikin-welcome to the Big Blue Family my man-

2/29 - Just got a phone call from a recruit-welcome to the Big Blue Family my man-

No names? That seems odd.

[AndOne]

Wow, I am not sure if I've ever seen anyone reply to an epic Greg post with an even longer epic length post. Not gonna lie, while they look kinda interesting, I only skimmed both (but I have an excuse, hah)

I remember kiko from way back, and if I remember correctly he's a Carthage fan?

Also...

Yesterday was a VERY stressful day.  I needed to vent, but this was not the appropriate place to do so.  Now that things have calmed down, I realize that my post was totally inappropriate.  I have deleted the post, and appeal to the good folks on here to delete any quotations of it.

Thank you, and, again, my apologies.

Hey most of us are not prudes and it is OK to vent. Your post came out of nowhere  and took me (and others) completely by surprise. It did,however, provide some relief from the CCIW was down this year banter.

I was a prude... but then I moved to Southern California. 

Actually in some ways I am still a prude, and in some ways I never was. Mostly your post just made me glad to be a girl.

AndOne, cool post.... but it made me sad. 

Thanks, I think. 
Which post are you referring to?
Sorry for your sadness. 

[Gregory Sager]

So, we're now in the Twitter age for recruiting announcements? Can't say that I was ready for that.

Talk about a "you kids get off my lawn!" moment for me.   

[AndOne]

Matt Nadelhoffer tweets...

https://twitter.com/#!/CoachNgoBIGBLUE


3/27 - When it Rains it pours-another big blue member has landed! Welcome to the family...

3/27 - Welcome to the Big Blue-another commitment today!

3/26 - Landed another recruit today-things are looking good!

3/23 - Great few days for the Big Blue! Remember the date...

3/5 - Big day on the road for the Big Blue-off to MICHIGAN all day and night and then to Chicago Tuesday-must get better

3/1 - Got another call from a big 6'8 230 post-he says Coach I have decided to attend Millikin-welcome to the Big Blue Family my man-

2/29 - Just got a phone call from a recruit-welcome to the Big Blue Family my man-

Seems like hardly a day goes by when somebody isn't going to Decatur. 
Did Millikin build a medical school too? The Stomper will be PISSED!     
Maybe its the free tuition?
Adventures in Fantasyland?

[kiko]

One definitely needs a bonus anytime they get through a Sageristic post without reaching for the Alleve.

We may have been drawing virtual swords in the conversation, but I take this as a compliment.

[AndOne]

I don't know how many of you are readers of the MIAA room, but this announcement was posted in there the other day.

Thoughts, anyone?

Well, the only CCIW coach involved is NCC's Todd Kelly, and nobody should be surprised either at his being a candidate or a finalist. First of all, I'd think the vast majority of assistant coaches aspire to land head coaching positions. As far as Kelly specifically, he has done an admirable job of bringing in a couple of very good recruiting classes the last couple of years. Additionally, he was a finalist last year for the head job at North Park that eventually went to Coach Howard.

I am a bit surprised at the applications from coaches associated with D1 and D2 programs in Western Michigan and Grand Valley State. I wasn't aware Olivet was such a plum position as to attract interest from higher level coaches.

[kiko]

Two short thoughts on this:

First of all, it's not ".590! .590!" As I've stated before, the CCIW's non-con winning percentage this season was .596.

My mistake on this -- I apologize.  You were upstanding enough to show accountability on my quote, so it is only fair that I do the same in return.

The CCIW is 51-36 (.586), which is really disappointing.

Barring a great postseason performance from the CCIW's representative(s) (it may not be plural this season), this will be the first time since 1997-98 that the CCIW finishes the season under the .600 mark in non-conference play.

Last season the league barely cleared .600 (56-37, .602), and the only reason it made it up and over that mark was because of Augie's Elite Eight run. After three straight years over .700, including the CCIW's best non-con performance ever (2008-09's .793 mark), the league has nosedived precipitously over the past three seasons, going further and further down each time. Last year and the year before I chalked it up to the bottom of the conference really collapsing, Millikin and Elmhurst in particular. This year, however, the entire middle tier of the league hovered around .500 outside the circuit. Only three teams posted the sort of 10-1 and 9-2 records that were typical of the league as a whole only a few short years ago.

The CCIW is really slipping. I haven't entirely figured out why yet.

I think the numbers you just ran suggest that those 10-1 and 9-2 records in the lower echelon of the conference were outliers and not typical performance.

Actually, there are more than enough seasons like that to dispel the idea that they're outliers. Only the eighth-place team rarely achieves those kinds of seasons. The missing element here is that there also tends to be enough mediocre (or worse) seasons on the part of the fifth- to seventh-place teams to balance them out. Remember, the fifth-place CCIW slot was performing at a .644 clip outside the league in the dozen years prior to this one, and the sixth-place CCIW slot was at an even better .679. Those are decent numbers, with plenty of room in them for 10-1 or 9-2 seasons here and there. Even the seventh-place slot's .576 leaves room for the occasional 10-1 or 9-2.

I think you're overselling this.  I counted five seasons of 9+ wins out-of-conference from bottom four teams over the past 12 years.  As we've established, you ran the tiebreakers and I didn't, so it is possible that there are a couple more from teams that are alphabetically fourth but statistically fifth, but that's still a pretty small sample among the 48 data points that the bottom four would provide over the past dozen seasons.  It's a long way from .644 and .679 to the .818 a 9-2 mark would net you.

[AndOne]

AND NOW FOR OUR MAIN BOUT--------

In this corner wearing the blue trunks, the defending champion and long term D3Hoops scribe Gregory "Sage" Sager......

And in the opposite corner, wearing the red trunks, the challenger, "Kid" Kiko............ 

[NCF]

One definitely needs a bonus anytime they get through a Sageristic post without reaching for the Alleve.

We may have been drawing virtual swords in the conversation, but I take this as a compliment.

It's meant as one. To take the time to put those posts together-I salute you! Maybe a real swordfight would decide a "winner" after all.

[NCF]

I don't know how many of you are readers of the MIAA room, but this announcement was posted in there the other day.

Thoughts, anyone?

Well, the only CCIW coach involved is NCC's Todd Kelly, and nobody should be surprised either at his being a candidate or a finalist. First of all, I'd think the vast majority of assistant coaches aspire to land head coaching positions. As far as Kelly specifically, he has done an admirable job of bringing in a couple of very good recruiting classes the last couple of years. Additionally, he was a finalist last year for the head job at North Park that eventually went to Coach Howard.

I am a bit surprised at the applications from coaches associated with D1 and D2 programs in Western Michigan and Grand Valley State. I wasn't aware Olivet was such a plum position as to attract interest from higher level coaches.

But it IS a Head Coaching job. Rather than wait around for something to come up in D1 or D2 they probably want to jump in and build a resume as a head coach instead of several years as an assistant.

[Dennis_Prikkel]

Matt Nadelhoffer tweets...

https://twitter.com/#!/CoachNgoBIGBLUE


3/27 - When it Rains it pours-another big blue member has landed! Welcome to the family...

3/27 - Welcome to the Big Blue-another commitment today!

3/26 - Landed another recruit today-things are looking good!

3/23 - Great few days for the Big Blue! Remember the date...

3/5 - Big day on the road for the Big Blue-off to MICHIGAN all day and night and then to Chicago Tuesday-must get better

3/1 - Got another call from a big 6'8 230 post-he says Coach I have decided to attend Millikin-welcome to the Big Blue Family my man-

2/29 - Just got a phone call from a recruit-welcome to the Big Blue Family my man-

maybe he's writing a work of fiction 

[Dennis_Prikkel]

GS and Kiko - give it a rest

Kiko - you know, I know and everyone on D3 chat knows GS always has the last word