MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Titan Q]

Nice article on Dylan Overstreet from the Paxton Record -

http://www.paxtonrecord.net/sports/prep-sports/boys-basketball/2013-03-03/dylan-overstreet-former-pbl-boys-basketball-standout-h

[NCF]

Tweet from this morning...

D3hoops/Pat Coleman ‏@d3hoops
Got an email from a parent begging us not to move North Central game off campus and move the track meet instead. #notourjob #wearethemedia

Not happening .

[voice]

NCC gets WW, a very tough match-up, and WC gets the Tommies, perhaps even tougher.  Both away games for CCIW, right?   No easy road, "bracket of death" or no.  Only good teams, esp. in the MW, from here on in.  No nights off, or you can easily be done and gone.

NCC should be a home game against Whitewater.  They ended up #1 in the MW and Whitewater was most likely #2 or #3 in the West.  The problem is the indoor NCAA D3 Indoor Track Championships are at North Central next weekend... not sure they can host both at the same time (much of Merner Field House would be used as spill-over from the track center).  We'll see.

I would be very surprised to se NC hold a basketall game next Saturday. Merner will be the place for teams to set up camp and warm-up. there will be a covered walkway connecting Merner to the track. If I remember correctly the final event usually starts at 5, then awards. I don't see Merner being cleared out and cleaned up in time for a basketball game.

Game sites for next Saturday's "Sweet 16" playoff games will be announced later today.  While North Central has a better season record and higher NCAA Regional Ranking it appears that UWW will be hosting next Saturday due to the fact that NCC is hosting the D3 Indoor National Track and Field Championships next weekend which will require NCC's basketball arena to be used as a staging location for events being run in the adjacent track and field arena.

[SevenTen]

Tweet from this morning...

D3hoops/Pat Coleman ‏@d3hoops
Got an email from a parent begging us not to move North Central game off campus and move the track meet instead. #notourjob #wearethemedia

Not happening .

Definitely won't move the NCAA Track Championships.  ... BUT... this NCAA Committee has shown that they are okay with having home teams who deserved to host (see NJ teams / Mike DeWitt interview with Hoopsville) host at a close neutral site instead of having to go on the road.  I wonder if a "friendly gym" just down the road might be a possibility rather than flipping home vs. away.  Would depend on if NCC planned ahead I assume.  I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Stagg Again!!]

Tweet from this morning...

D3hoops/Pat Coleman ‏@d3hoops
Got an email from a parent begging us not to move North Central game off campus and move the track meet instead. #notourjob #wearethemedia

Not happening .

Unfortunately not.  If NCC hosts, look for the game to be at a nearby campus or facility though.  This is the price of having an incredibly successful track and field program!

Since there have not been any posts about the North Central game last night, I thought I'd add a few.  NCC came out extremely flat in the first ten minutes.  Turnovers and missed bunnies, coupled with a handful of nice possessions by Centre, gave the visitors the lead.  Then the Cardinal defense took over!!  Centre was not able to easily dump the ball inside to their bigs or get off any uncontested threes, and NCC owned the passing lanes and the boards.  NCC held a considerable size advantage over the Centre guards which made life difficult for the visitors.  Centre had size, but lacked the athleticism down low that the Cardinals have seen in the CCIW this year.  Centre's bigs had a very difficult time stopping Gamble down low.  Rosenberg had a nice game off the bench for the Cards.

[Titan Q]

Definitely won't move the NCAA Track Championships.  ... BUT... this NCAA Committee has shown that they are okay with having home teams who deserved to host (see NJ teams / Mike DeWitt interview with Hoopsville) host at a close neutral site instead of having to go on the road.  I wonder if a "friendly gym" just down the road might be a possibility rather than flipping home vs. away.  Would depend on if NCC planned ahead I assume.  I guess we'll have to wait and see.

But isn't the New Jersey situation completely different because of the NCAA's controversial/stupid decision on sports betting?

http://www.nj.com/college-basketball/index.ssf/2013/02/ncaa_wrong_to_punish_montclair_state_for_states_sports_betting_law.html

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8510207/ncaa-moving-new-jersey-championships-due-betting-laws

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1543553-why-the-ncaa-is-a-joke-new-jersey-edition

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/pretzel/174294581.html


I can see why they'd allow Stevens (Hoboken, NJ) to host at Lehman (Bronx, NY) yesterday, but would they really entertain North Central hosting at, say, Benedictine?  For some reason I just can't see that being a possibility at all.  Maybe I'm wrong.

What a bad break it would be for NCC's basketball team if they can't host due to a facilities conflict.  I don't think there is any doubt the Cardinals are a higher seed than UW-Whitewater (by just a little).  In a matchup that is basically a "pick 'em" on paper, moving the game to Kachel Gymnasium would certainly change who the favorite is.

[Rafi]

Definitely won't move the NCAA Track Championships.  ... BUT... this NCAA Committee has shown that they are okay with having home teams who deserved to host (see NJ teams / Mike DeWitt interview with Hoopsville) host at a close neutral site instead of having to go on the road.  I wonder if a "friendly gym" just down the road might be a possibility rather than flipping home vs. away.  Would depend on if NCC planned ahead I assume.  I guess we'll have to wait and see.

But isn't the New Jersey situation completely different because of the NCAA's controversial/stupid decision on sports betting?

http://www.nj.com/college-basketball/index.ssf/2013/02/ncaa_wrong_to_punish_montclair_state_for_states_sports_betting_law.html

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8510207/ncaa-moving-new-jersey-championships-due-betting-laws

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1543553-why-the-ncaa-is-a-joke-new-jersey-edition

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/pretzel/174294581.html


I can see why they'd allow Stevens (Hoboken, NJ) to host at Lehman (Bronx, NY) yesterday, but would they really entertain North Central hosting at, say, Benedictine?  For some reason I just can't see that being a possibility at all.  Maybe I'm wrong.

If you listened to Dewitt's comments on Hoopsville, I think it is clear that the committee wants to reward the teams that deservet to not play on the road.....and, if I'm not mistaken, he phrased it that way which is telling.  He also mentioned that the kids shouldn't be penalized.

I think the NCC situation is the same.....the fact that the school put in a bid for the national indoor track championships a couple of years ago shouldn't penalize the kids on this year's basketball team.

I think the national committee will entertain this.

[Titan Q]

Here are the numbers as of the selection/seeding process...

UW-Whitewater: 22-4 (.846)/.588 SOS/5-3 vs RR
North Central: 22-3 (.880)/.551 SOS/6-2 vs RR

Pretty close...but I think NCC would be considered the higher seed by just a small margin.

[Titan Q]

If you listened to Dewitt's comments on Hoopsville, I think it is clear that the committee wants to reward the teams that deservet to not play on the road.....and, if I'm not mistaken, he phrased it that way which is telling.  He also mentioned that the kids shouldn't be penalized.

I think the NCC situation is the same.....the fact that the school put in a bid for the national indoor track championships a couple of years ago shouldn't penalize the kids on this year's basketball team.

I think the national committee will entertain this.

But if you look at my numbers above, I don't think it is the same.  UWW vs NCC is basically a toss-up in terms of the seeding.  It's not like NCC is clearly the higher seed, based on the criteria.  So while NCC would almost certainly get the nod if Merner was available, giving it to UWW probably becomes a real easy decision if it's not.

[Titan Q]

I'd like to see the IWU/Wash U game played at the neutral site of the Beaver Dome in Carlinville.

[SevenTen]

I would say the chances feel pretty low in terms of having it at a neutral site in or around Naperville... but I don't think the "almost a coin flip" test matters.  The question is who was suppose to host and do they have a reasonable facility that they can play on?  The only way it is possible is if NCC put in to host the first round at home and with it, had a commitment from Benedictine or whomever to host their second round game.  If that was part of their bid from the beginning, then I think there's a chance (especially since they are hosting another NCAA Championship there).  I think it's a low shot but not out of the realm of possibilities.

[Stagg Again!!]

I'd like to see the IWU/Wash U game played at the neutral site of the Beaver Dome in Carlinville.

TitanQ, I really enjoyed the perspective you brought during your pre-tourney interview on Hoopsville and information on IWUHoops.com.  I have not had a chance to thank you.  Just goes to show the depth of knowledge and insight on the CCIW boards.

[cardinalpride]

If you listened to Dewitt's comments on Hoopsville, I think it is clear that the committee wants to reward the teams that deservet to not play on the road.....and, if I'm not mistaken, he phrased it that way which is telling.  He also mentioned that the kids shouldn't be penalized.

I think the NCC situation is the same.....the fact that the school put in a bid for the national indoor track championships a couple of years ago shouldn't penalize the kids on this year's basketball team.

I think the national committee will entertain this.

But if you look at my numbers above, I don't think it is the same.  UWW vs NCC is basically a toss-up in terms of the seeding.  It's not like NCC is clearly the higher seed, based on the criteria.  So while NCC would almost certainly get the nod if Merner was available, giving it to UWW probably becomes a real easy decision if it's not.

If NCC's AD put a bid in to host a second round game, then they must have a facility to play in that meets NCAA hosting standards.  It shouldn't matter if merner is available. I'm sure the NCAA is aware of the NCC situation because bids were submitted late January or early February.

[Titan Q]

I'd like to see the IWU/Wash U game played at the neutral site of the Beaver Dome in Carlinville.

TitanQ, I really enjoyed the perspective you brought during your pre-tourney interview on Hoopsville and information on IWUHoops.com.  I have not had a chance to thank you.  Just goes to show the depth of knowledge and insight on the CCIW boards.

Thanks Stagg.

[Titan Q]

806 last night at Wash U and 1800 at IWU.  Hoping someone gets greedy.


The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:

1. Complete Bid;
2. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
3. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
4. Seeding; and
5. Attendance history, hosting history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.

http://static.psbin.com/w/6/qxppu7z1rkr1ta/2013_Pre_Championship_DIII_Men-s_Basketball.pdf