MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[cardinalpride]

I guess there were just too many voters who think a second place finish is automatically #2 in the poll.  IMO, it should have been NCC #2, UMHB #3.  NCC's overall season was much superior, they each beat some outstanding teams in the tourney, and each lost ONLY to Amherst, with UMHB's loss by more than twice as much as the Cards'.

Oh well, congratulations on #3 (even if I think it should've been #2 )!

My loyalties on this board are well-known, but if we're using this logic, I still place the Sons of Warden third, and slot the Tommies ahead of them.  They did lose to Mary Hardin Baylor but I would judge their season superior to all but Amherst's based on the full body of work.  So I have no issue with the third place ranking.

Congrats to the Cardinals on a stellar season, and to seniors Derek Raridon and Aaron Tiknis for outstanding careers.

Prior to this season, I would have said the three most important players in the program's history are Bill Warden (as a player), Tony Jordan, and Robert Brown.  All helped pull the program to a higher level over the course of their careers.  I'll add Derek Raridon's name to that list based on the Cardinals' progress over the past four years.  Just don't ask me to rank them. 

The task now:  transform what was an outstanding season into an outstanding beginning for the returning players and coaches.

Kiko,
A Mount Rushmore of NCCs most important basketball players should not exclude Mike McFadden.
Here is the list of NCC basketball players that are in the NCC sports hall of fame:
1. Bill Warden
2. Mike McFadden

That's it! That's the list!

During the early 80s, McFadden was the key player that helped bring NCC basketball back to the top half of the conference after some horrid years in the 70s.

McFadden didn't do it all by himself. John Giannini was a very good player on those same '82 and '83 NCC teams that brought the Cardinals back from the depths of the CCIW standings.

Wow - that is a short list.  Four players that I saw for the Cards were good CCIW players: Tony Jordan, Robert Brown, Alonzo Alexander and Curtis Hudson.

Mike Bohannon should be on that list, too. Mike Patterson should've been on it, but he messed up in the classroom. And Pete Rochford might've gone on to be one of the greats in North Central basketball history if he hadn't blown out his knee as an underclassman in a game at North Park.

Drew Hunter and Jamon Lomax were pretty good Warden-era NCC players, too. Not in the same league as McFadden, Jordan, Brown, Alexander, Hudson, and Bohannon, but pretty good.

Greg, I agree with you on all of those players. Since you mentioned some other fine players, we shouldn't forget Mike Roy either!

[kiko]

I guess there were just too many voters who think a second place finish is automatically #2 in the poll.  IMO, it should have been NCC #2, UMHB #3.  NCC's overall season was much superior, they each beat some outstanding teams in the tourney, and each lost ONLY to Amherst, with UMHB's loss by more than twice as much as the Cards'.

Oh well, congratulations on #3 (even if I think it should've been #2 )!

My loyalties on this board are well-known, but if we're using this logic, I still place the Sons of Warden third, and slot the Tommies ahead of them.  They did lose to Mary Hardin Baylor but I would judge their season superior to all but Amherst's based on the full body of work.  So I have no issue with the third place ranking.

Congrats to the Cardinals on a stellar season, and to seniors Derek Raridon and Aaron Tiknis for outstanding careers.

Prior to this season, I would have said the three most important players in the program's history are Bill Warden (as a player), Tony Jordan, and Robert Brown.  All helped pull the program to a higher level over the course of their careers.  I'll add Derek Raridon's name to that list based on the Cardinals' progress over the past four years.  Just don't ask me to rank them. 

The task now:  transform what was an outstanding season into an outstanding beginning for the returning players and coaches.

Kiko,
A Mount Rushmore of NCCs most important basketball players should not exclude Mike McFadden.
Here is the list of NCC basketball players that are in the NCC sports hall of fame:
1. Bill Warden
2. Mike McFadden

That's it! That's the list!

During the early 80s, McFadden was the key player that helped bring NCC basketball back to the top half of the conference after some horrid years in the 70s.

McFadden didn't do it all by himself. John Giannini was a very good player on those same '82 and '83 NCC teams that brought the Cardinals back from the depths of the CCIW standings.

Wow - that is a short list.  Four players that I saw for the Cards were good CCIW players: Tony Jordan, Robert Brown, Alonzo Alexander and Curtis Hudson.

Mike Bohannon should be on that list, too. Mike Patterson should've been on it, but he messed up in the classroom. And Pete Rochford might've gone on to be one of the greats in North Central basketball history if he hadn't blown out his knee as an underclassman in a game at North Park.

Drew Hunter and Jamon Lomax were pretty good Warden-era NCC players, too. Not in the same league as McFadden, Jordan, Brown, Alexander, Hudson, and Bohannon, but pretty good.

Greg, I agree with you on all of those players. Since you mentioned some other fine players, we shouldn't forget Mike Roy either!

See, the list I started with was intentionally veddy veddy short, and was less about best player and more about who was most critical to the program.  Guys like Drew Hunter, Mike Roy, Curtis Hudson, etc. were outstanding players, but not on the short list.  They're Artis Gilmore and not Scottie Pippen.

Mike McFadden was awesome and fully deserves his stylish red HOF jacket, and a check of the wayback machine shows he (and Coach Warden, who arrived at the same time) absolutely helped to set the program on a better course.  He was not far off of my list, and if he isn't on it, he's next-out.  Point being, though, that Derek Raridon belongs at that table now, as well.

Stupid Mike Bohannon story: he went for, if I recall correctly, 27 in the first half against Augustana in his senior year.  The school record was (and is) the 52 that Bill Warden scored back in the day.  I innocently asked the person next to me at halftime if they thought he would get the record, and was very pointedly reminded that the guy who controlled his playing time for the second half was the guy who held the record.  We decided that record was pretty safe for at least another night.

And yes, Michael Patterson absolutely should have been on that list.

[kiko]

Crap, I think I'm starting to sound like Dennis...   

[iwu70]

Glad to see both Seibrings sign up to be Titans.  The one still in HS may be the best of the three -- can really shoot the three when he gets hot.  He's like a 6'5" HS junior.

More recruiting to come, no doubt.

Congrats to Kevin Reed and Dan Oswald as they walk the stage, graduate on May 5th. 

IWU70

[NCF]

Titan Q, you may be interested in this story:
http://seasonpass.suntimes.com/news_article/show/247857?refferal=rss

[Dennis_Prikkel]

Crap, I think I'm starting to sound like Dennis...   

i resemble that remark 

[Titan Q]

Titan Q, you may be interested in this story:
http://seasonpass.suntimes.com/news_article/show/247857?refferal=rss

Thanks NCF.  I hate to see coach Richardson leave...I think he's one of the best coaches in the Chicago area.

[Titan Q]

Article on Trevor Seibring's commitment to IWU...

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/basketball/boys/nchs-trevor-seibring-joins-cousin-spencer-as-iwu-recruit/article_78ab70b6-a648-11e2-b38e-001a4bcf887a.html

[Titan Q]

Per Twitter, IWU has landed Brother Rice PG Jim Barista.

Barista is a little guy (5-9), but he is very tough and can really play.  He had a scholarship offer to NAIA St. Xavier, D2 interest, and a bunch of D3s that recruited him very hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGTadSqQdFk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZNW8LAOLcM

http://www.thereporteronline.net/atf.php?sid=32703&current_edition=2013-03-14


Obviously I'm trilled to have a Crusader aboard.

Per Twitter, Brother Rice PG Jim Barista has "decommitted" frrom IWU.  I'm not sure what the deal is, but I am almost positive he is not considered an IWU recruit any longer.  I believe Barista is pursuing other options, including a couple CCIW schools.

[Titan Q]

Article on Jordan Turner and Andy Stempel...

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-wesleyan/wesleyan-basketball-adds-two-players-from-suburban-chicago/article_bcfbfd2e-a703-11e2-b3b4-0019bb2963f4.html

http://mundelein.suntimes.com/sports/19574572-419/roundup-area-athletes-make-college-choices.html

[cardinalpride]

I guess there were just too many voters who think a second place finish is automatically #2 in the poll.  IMO, it should have been NCC #2, UMHB #3.  NCC's overall season was much superior, they each beat some outstanding teams in the tourney, and each lost ONLY to Amherst, with UMHB's loss by more than twice as much as the Cards'.

Oh well, congratulations on #3 (even if I think it should've been #2 )!

My loyalties on this board are well-known, but if we're using this logic, I still place the Sons of Warden third, and slot the Tommies ahead of them.  They did lose to Mary Hardin Baylor but I would judge their season superior to all but Amherst's based on the full body of work.  So I have no issue with the third place ranking.

Congrats to the Cardinals on a stellar season, and to seniors Derek Raridon and Aaron Tiknis for outstanding careers.

Prior to this season, I would have said the three most important players in the program's history are Bill Warden (as a player), Tony Jordan, and Robert Brown.  All helped pull the program to a higher level over the course of their careers.  I'll add Derek Raridon's name to that list based on the Cardinals' progress over the past four years.  Just don't ask me to rank them. 

The task now:  transform what was an outstanding season into an outstanding beginning for the returning players and coaches.

Kiko,
A Mount Rushmore of NCCs most important basketball players should not exclude Mike McFadden.
Here is the list of NCC basketball players that are in the NCC sports hall of fame:
1. Bill Warden
2. Mike McFadden

That's it! That's the list!

During the early 80s, McFadden was the key player that helped bring NCC basketball back to the top half of the conference after some horrid years in the 70s.

McFadden didn't do it all by himself. John Giannini was a very good player on those same '82 and '83 NCC teams that brought the Cardinals back from the depths of the CCIW standings.

Wow - that is a short list.  Four players that I saw for the Cards were good CCIW players: Tony Jordan, Robert Brown, Alonzo Alexander and Curtis Hudson.

Mike Bohannon should be on that list, too. Mike Patterson should've been on it, but he messed up in the classroom. And Pete Rochford might've gone on to be one of the greats in North Central basketball history if he hadn't blown out his knee as an underclassman in a game at North Park.

Drew Hunter and Jamon Lomax were pretty good Warden-era NCC players, too. Not in the same league as McFadden, Jordan, Brown, Alexander, Hudson, and Bohannon, but pretty good.

Greg, I agree with you on all of those players. Since you mentioned some other fine players, we shouldn't forget Mike Roy either!

See, the list I started with was intentionally veddy veddy short, and was less about best player and more about who was most critical to the program.  Guys like Drew Hunter, Mike Roy, Curtis Hudson, etc. were outstanding players, but not on the short list.  They're Artis Gilmore and not Scottie Pippen.

Mike McFadden was awesome and fully deserves his stylish red HOF jacket, and a check of the wayback machine shows he (and Coach Warden, who arrived at the same time) absolutely helped to set the program on a better course.  He was not far off of my list, and if he isn't on it, he's next-out.  Point being, though, that Derek Raridon belongs at that table now, as well.

Stupid Mike Bohannon story: he went for, if I recall correctly, 27 in the first half against Augustana in his senior year.  The school record was (and is) the 52 that Bill Warden scored back in the day.  I innocently asked the person next to me at halftime if they thought he would get the record, and was very pointedly reminded that the guy who controlled his playing time for the second half was the guy who held the record.  We decided that record was pretty safe for at least another night.

And yes, Michael Patterson absolutely should have been on that list.

Kiko, I agree with you. However, NCC success over the last three years has just as much to do with Landon Gamble as it does Derek Raridon! When Gamble's career has concluded, I'm sure Derek will have a seat open next to him at that table.

[kiko]

Landon Gamble has an opportunity next year to become a four-time first-team all conference player.  You'll get no argument from me that we're gonna need another chair at the table.

[Titan Q]

Augustana recruit...

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130411/sports/704119706/?interstitial=1

* Quinn Pokora, 6-1 PG (Mundelein H.S.) --  10 ppg, 3.4 apg

[Denny McKinney]

Titan Q or anyother IWU poster. Could I get a possible Bryce Dolan season progress snapshot? Posted or Pm to me. Did he play any JV games? Did he mature this year? What a does he have to look forward to next 3 yrs? Anything. Thank You in Advance.

[Titan Q]

Titan Q or anyother IWU poster. Could I get a possible Bryce Dolan season progress snapshot? Posted or Pm to me. Did he play any JV games? Did he mature this year? What a does he have to look forward to next 3 yrs? Anything. Thank You in Advance.

Dolan played in 22 of IWU's 29 varsity games, averaging 10.5 minutes per game as IWU's backup PG.  I believe Dolan was primarily a SG in high school, but he definitely played the majority of his minutes this year as a PG.

My personal observation is that Dolan handled the ball really well for a FR "combo guard" learning how to play PG.  The one thing he did not do well this year was the thing is he is best at -- shoot the 3.  He was just 14-47 (.298) from beyond the arc in varsity games.  Not a huge surprise for a) a FR, and b) a kid learning a new position.

I know that Ron Rose considers Dolan the best pure shooter in IWU's program.  Based on what I saw of his ball-handling skills, if he settles down and knocks down open 3's as he gets more experience, I think he has a chance to be a good CCIW PG.  I also expect to see him get a chance to play the 2 down the road as well...although he's probably too small to play the 2 exclusively.

I'm a big Dolan fan - just something about him I like on the floor.  I always had a feeling he was about to settle down and make 4-5 3s in a game.  I think he will be one of those kids who takes a big step from his FR to SO year.