MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[iwu70]

Ypsi, Ypsi, my friend, don't get me started on the tea in China.  I'd be much much more interested in the Yao Ming look-alikes (esp. on the female side!) in China that one day might come to the CCIW.  In green of course.  I'm looking. 

Good win for our Titans at Wheaton.  We need three big home wins now in preparation for the key game vs. Augie in Rock Island upcoming.

Greetings from warm Hong Kong -- sunny and in the 70s.  Sorry about the brutal cold over there.

IWU70

[AndOne]

North Central 62
Millikin 46

* Charlie Rosenberg--26 points, 8 rebounds
* Jack Burchett--13 points, 6 rebounds
* Jayme Moten--12 points, 6 rebounds

* TJ Griffin--12 points (8 FTs)
* N. Biggs--10 points

This one went pretty much as expected and was basically over by halftime.
The game was highlighted by Charlie Rosenberg's 21 first half points during which he was virtually unstoppable.

The Cardinals played pretty good defense, but Millikin is a poor shooting team. For the game, they shot only 30.6%, including 0.00% (0 for 11) from behind the line.

A 16 point win despite an unacceptable 18 TOs, and a missing in action bench presence that contributed all of ONE scant point. 2 areas that the Cards really need to improve on.

[GoPerry]

North Central 62
Millikin 46

* Charlie Rosenberg--26 points, 8 rebounds
* Jack Burchett--13 points, 6 rebounds
* Jayme Moten--12 points, 6 rebounds

* TJ Griffin--12 points (8 FTs)
* N. Biggs--10 points

This one went pretty much as expected and was basically over by halftime.
The game was highlighted by Charlie Rosenberg's 21 first half points during which he was virtually unstoppable.

The Cardinals played pretty good defense, but Millikin is a poor shooting team. For the game, they shot only 30.6%, including 0.00% (0 for 11) from behind the line.

A 16 point win despite an unacceptable 18 TOs, and a missing in action bench presence that contributed all of ONE scant point. 2 areas that the Cards really need to improve on.

. . . . there's a lot of that going around . . .

[AndOne]

Two side notes from the IWU/Wheaton game: 2) At halftime, a game was played by 4th and 5th grade boys from Wheaton and Glen Ellyn. The Wheaton team wore orange and navy and the Glen Ellyn team wore hunter green uniforms with TITANS in white lettering on the jersey. I told my wife this has to be an omen. Glen Ellyn won and I relaxed knowing IWU would play a great 2nd half, outscoring the Thunder 41-27.

THE TITAN CONNECTION

The Glen Ellyn Titans are a feeder program for the Glenbard West HS Hilltoppers in Wheaton's eastern neighbor, Glen Ellyn. One of the higher ups in the program is Dennis Lawson. IWU fans will be familiar with the name Lawson, as in Duncan Lawson, a former Green Team member who graduated about 3 years ago. Dennis, of course, is Dunc's dad. I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis Lawson didn't have something to do with setting up the 4th-5th grade halftime game. As far as the team from Glen Ellyn being named Titans, just follow the trail from coach, to coach's son, to the son's school nickname. The connection doesn't stop there. The colors of Duncan's old HS, the aforementioned Glenbard West that the Titan teams feed into, are also green and white. 

[iwu70]

Green such a nice color, . . . at all levels.  Green Tea anyone?

Sure am glad the Titans have the depth they do, quality of talent all the way down the pine even to 14-15 or so.  (Brandon Heyen, are you ready?)   

Go Titans!!!

IWU70

[AppletonRocks]

Two side notes from the IWU/Wheaton game: 2) At halftime, a game was played by 4th and 5th grade boys from Wheaton and Glen Ellyn. The Wheaton team wore orange and navy and the Glen Ellyn team wore hunter green uniforms with TITANS in white lettering on the jersey. I told my wife this has to be an omen. Glen Ellyn won and I relaxed knowing IWU would play a great 2nd half, outscoring the Thunder 41-27.

THE TITAN CONNECTION

The Glen Ellyn Titans are a feeder program for the Glenbard West HS Hilltoppers in Wheaton's eastern neighbor, Glen Ellyn. One of the higher ups in the program is Dennis Lawson. IWU fans will be familiar with the name Lawson, as in Duncan Lawson, a former Green Team member who graduated about 3 years ago. Dennis, of course, is Dunc's dad. I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis Lawson didn't have something to do with setting up the 4th-5th grade halftime game. As far as the team from Glen Ellyn being named Titans, just follow the trail from coach, to coach's son, to the son's school nickname. The connection doesn't stop there. The colors of Duncan's old HS, the aforementioned Glenbard West that the Titan teams feed into, are also green and white. 

Seems like child abuse to me.   

[bbfan44]

The Carthage College men's basketball team (5-7, 1-1 College Conference of Illinois & Wisconsin) defeated CCIW-opponent North Park University (8-4, 0-2 CCIW), 67-60, on Wednesday, Jan. 7 at the North Park Gymnasium in Chicago.

Carthage never trailed in the game and jumped out to a 16-8 lead at 13:12 first period.  The Red Men led by six points at halftime, 35-29.  A 14-2 run the open the second half put Carthage up by 18 points, 49-31, at 14:39.  The Vikings roared back with a 26-11 run of their own to cut the lead to three points, 60-57, at 1:03.  Carthage's Donte Logan and Mike Kjeldsen helped ice the game by making three free throws each in the final minute for the 67-60 margin.

Carthage shot 47 percent (27-58), including just five-of-20 from three-point range, while North Park shot 42 percent (23-55), including just four-of-15 three-pointers.  The Red men got to free-throw line 14 times and made eight, while the Vikings converted 10-of-16.  Carthage out-rebounded North Park by a 38-32 margin.

Cameron Van Wyk (Sr., Wassenaar, Netherlands) led the Red Men with 14 points on seven-of-nine field goals, along with eight rebounds.  Brad Kruse (Fr., Hawthorn Woods, Ill./Lake Zurich) had 12 points on four-of-nine shooting, including two-of-five three-pointers and two-of-five free throws and seven rebounds.  Juwan Henry led the Vikings with a game-high 21 points on six-of-22 field goals and eight-of-eight free throws, while Jordan Robinson added 17 points and 11 boards.

Got this from the Carthage website....a bit surprised no one posted anything about the game from Carthage or NPU since there had been a bit of discussion about the Redmen leading up to the game.

[Gregory Sager]

Benjy Taylor couldn't get it done at D3 NCC where he was 28-46 in 3 seasons. Now he's successful at D1 Hawaii. Slick!
Probably too many confining rules down here in D3. 

Apparently, he could not get it done at Chicago State either, but I would not hold that against him.

On the contrary, in 2008-09 CSU had its first winning season in 23 years, and Benjy Taylor was at the helm for it.

Not that it matters, but I was only commenting on his days at Chicago State.  I am not sure any Coach who would go to Chicago State could ever win there.  Maybe I am wrong, but I think they have always been terrible.

I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking on this one, WUH. CSU is Chicago State. You're basically restating my point, which is that Benjy Taylor's success in 2008-09 was and is a radical outlier for Chicago State, given that the Cougars have been terrible since very shortly after they moved from D2 (in which they had been a powerhouse) to D1 for the 1984-85 season. The only winning seasons that they've had since turning D1 were their first two (16-11 in '84-'85 and 22-6 in '85-'86 under Bob Hallberg) and that 2008-09 campaign under Benjy Taylor (19-13 in 2008-09).

[Gregory Sager]

I've never been to Manito but because of this board (and a certain D3hoops.com All-American) I'm very familiar with the amount of corn in Manito.

Nicely played, Patrick.

Though I've never seen a comparison of the corn in Manito and the tea in China.

Why, why, why, Chuck? Why can't you just let sleeping dogs lie?

Green such a nice color, . . . at all levels.

The Carthage College men's basketball team (5-7, 1-1 College Conference of Illinois & Wisconsin) defeated CCIW-opponent North Park University (8-4, 0-2 CCIW), 67-60, on Wednesday, Jan. 7 at the North Park Gymnasium in Chicago.

Carthage never trailed in the game and jumped out to a 16-8 lead at 13:12 first period.  The Red Men led by six points at halftime, 35-29.  A 14-2 run the open the second half put Carthage up by 18 points, 49-31, at 14:39.  The Vikings roared back with a 26-11 run of their own to cut the lead to three points, 60-57, at 1:03.  Carthage's Donte Logan and Mike Kjeldsen helped ice the game by making three free throws each in the final minute for the 67-60 margin.

Carthage shot 47 percent (27-58), including just five-of-20 from three-point range, while North Park shot 42 percent (23-55), including just four-of-15 three-pointers.  The Red men got to free-throw line 14 times and made eight, while the Vikings converted 10-of-16.  Carthage out-rebounded North Park by a 38-32 margin.

Cameron Van Wyk (Sr., Wassenaar, Netherlands) led the Red Men with 14 points on seven-of-nine field goals, along with eight rebounds.  Brad Kruse (Fr., Hawthorn Woods, Ill./Lake Zurich) had 12 points on four-of-nine shooting, including two-of-five three-pointers and two-of-five free throws and seven rebounds.  Juwan Henry led the Vikings with a game-high 21 points on six-of-22 field goals and eight-of-eight free throws, while Jordan Robinson added 17 points and 11 boards.

Got this from the Carthage website....a bit surprised no one posted anything about the game from Carthage or NPU since there had been a bit of discussion about the Redmen leading up to the game.

I've been away from the computer for the past two days, that's why.

Carthage executed well and played like a veteran team, while NPU played like a team made up of freshmen and sophomores. The Vikings were plagued by poor decision-making and sloppy execution when they had the ball in their hands. This was particularly true once they had whittled the Red Men lead down to three with just over a minute remaining. The endgame was more a case of North Park shooting itself in the foot than of the Red Men preserving their lead. How, for instance, do you fail to lob the ball out of the reach of a player guarding the inbound pass who is only standing two or three feet in front of you?

But bad ball decisions and sloppy execution was also true throughout the contest, as, unfortunately, the Vikings reverted to last season's stand-around-and-watch-Juwan-Henry-drive syndrome on offense. But it was more than that, as Juwan tried going 1-on-3 or 1-on-4 even in transition when his teammates had not yet set up on the perimeter. He tossed up any number of off-balance and unlikely shots in traffic that killed possessions rather than giving the Vikings a good chance to score by passing or at least settling for a pull-up jumper in the lane. More than anybody else, he fell back on old bad habits and showed no sign of being the dime-dishing wizard that he was in November and December. It was an ugly, ugly sight, and after the game I had to listen to all of my old friends from the '80s Vikings teams razzing me about NPU's star player's 6-22 performance from the field. Tom Slyder has to pull a Barney Fife here and nip it in the bud. NPU's margin of competitiveness is already razor-thin, given the team's serious lack of size, and the offense needs to function much more effectively for the Vikes to even have a chance to win a league game.

I told former Vikings great Freddie Kruse after the game that his kid looks like a terrific young player. What Steve Marovich failed to mention in the Carthage press release that bbfan44 quoted was that Brad Kruse not only had a 12 and 7 night for the Red Men, he had seven steals as well.

[iwu70]

Greg, is that a picture of you gagging on the performance of the NPU basketball and football teams over the years?  Perhaps you need some green tea to settle your stomach.

Looking forward to the Titans three-game stretch at home.  The confines of The Shirk always good for the Titans.   Let's hope we build up some momentum, some good scoring and defensive habits in prep for the face-off with Augie in RI to follow.  Very good to see Nelson finding his game and several other key players back from injuries. Time to get on a roll. 

IWU70

[Gregory Sager]

Greg, is that a picture of you gagging on the performance of the NPU basketball and football teams over the years?

Dude, there are five good reasons why NPU basketball will never make me gag that are hanging from the crackerbox rafters.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Greg, is that a picture of you gagging on the performance of the NPU basketball and football teams over the years?

Dude, there are five good reasons why NPU basketball will never make me gag that are hanging from the crackerbox rafters.

Mark, you sure walked into that one!  Since we graduated, NPU has five national titles, we have one, the rest of the conference zero.  But, Greg, better get that machine cranked up again - Whitewater is up to four, Plattesville also has four, and Stevens Point has three.  

(And among the better looking, though shorter, bballers, WashU already has matched your five, and is undefeated so far this season. )

[Gregory Sager]

(And among the better looking, though shorter, bballers, WashU already has matched your five, and is undefeated so far this season. )

Different sport, so it doesn't count.

[iwu70]

Ypsi, NPU's history is well known.  But, I think Greg must be mostly gagging of late.  I know he sees Green like most see red.  So it goes.

All thought CC would finish in the basement, though looking more and more like it might be NPU this year.   Again.   As Deng Xiaoping would always say, "best to seek truth from facts."

Later, later -- hope all the CCIW friends are surviving the extreme cold.  Sounds truly brutal.  Term started here at CUHK yesterday, my seminars well underway now, with temps in the mid-70s, sunny with exceptionally clear air, at least by Hong Kong standards.  Year of the Ram festivities only about a month away now . . . so we'll have another nice long holiday week break then too.  Only time of the year when Hong Kong truly exhales, takes a break. 

Any teams in D3 called the Rams? (some say goat!), . . . guess it's their year.

IWU70

[Gregory Sager]

Ypsi, NPU's history is well known.  But, I think Greg must be mostly gagging of late.

Your thinking is incorrect in this matter, as it is in, oh, so many others.

I know he sees Green like most see red.

As per usual, your utter inability to consider the fact that not everyone believes that the world revolves around Illinois Wesleyan (for better or for worse) blinds you to the truth: When I see orange I see red.

That's not exactly a well-kept secret on d3boards.com, either.