MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[iwu70]

For the Titans, next year's perimeter group of Dolan, Stempel, Rose, Pennington and perhaps others (Nelms and Streety), may be better than this year's group of Overstreet, Nelson and Sodemann.  Give them time, give them their chance and you may see amazing results.  Overall, I think they are better shooters.  Time will tell.  We've had a great run with these seniors.  I have really enjoyed watching them play, all three. 

Big game, big evening Saturday at The Shirk . . . the inauguration of the Dennie Bridges Court.

Agree with Greg that high percentages by perimeter players far more impressive than Marietti's high percentage of 2-3 footers.  Hope he, Coyle, Bausch, and Seibring have strong games rebounding the ball vs. EC.  The Titans are going to need them to match or beat the EC bigs.

IWU70

[iwu70]

Happy Year of the Ram (or if you prefer, Goat or Sheep!) to all my CCIW Chatster friends and comrades.  May your New Year be filled with prosperity, happiness and good health.

Kung Hey Fat Choi!

IWU70

[Gregory Sager]

Happy Year of the Ram (or if you prefer, Goat or Sheep!) to all my CCIW Chatster friends and comrades.  May your New Year be filled with prosperity, happiness and good health.

Kung Hey Fat Choi!

Gesundheit!

[DFLDWarriorsCCIW]

I guess at least in B/N if PT isn't the main factor in recruiting it seems to be at least a large source of angst.  However, the most important game on Saturday doesn't highlight anybody named Rose.  The NPU vs. NCC tilt is a bigger game since both teams are playing to continue their season.  Loser packs it in.  GO CARDS! 

[Gregory Sager]

I guess at least in B/N if PT isn't the main factor in recruiting it seems to be at least a large source of angst.  However, the most important game on Saturday doesn't highlight anybody named Rose.  The NPU vs. NCC tilt is a bigger game since both teams are playing to continue their season.  Loser packs it in.  GO CARDS!

As Tom Slyder said in his postgame interview Saturday night, the playoffs start a week early for NPU and NCC. Go Vikings!

[GoPerry]

I guess at least in B/N if PT isn't the main factor in recruiting it seems to be at least a large source of angst.  However, the most important game on Saturday doesn't highlight anybody named Rose.  The NPU vs. NCC tilt is a bigger game since both teams are playing to continue their season.  Loser packs it in.  GO CARDS!

I have a feeling the IWU and EC folks(including the Rose's) consider their game at Shirk to be much more important than anything happening in Naperville on Saturday.  The loser heads straight to the bubble or even falls below.

I'm sure the Thunder would love to end the season with a senior night win over Augie.  Too bad there's not much at stake in the game- not really any spoiler effect since Augie's already wrapped up hosting the tourney although another loss will damage their chances at hosting a first round pod.

[AndOne]

Please Massey, be right, IWU over Elmhurst. Massey was wrong on the last 2 IWU games.

Which is why I never put much stock in Massey picks. I think there are several very knowledgeable regular CCIW posters who are very familiar with each and every conference team to the point of being able to match or better Massey on any given night.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Week 2's regional rankings made an early appearance today: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2630

[Titan Q]

Nice article on Dylan Overstreet - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/overstreet-at-point-of-iwu-basketball-success/article_7ebbecf5-03c9-5193-94ae-c3080c5f5dfb.html.

Very quietly, Overstreet has become one of the best IWU point guards in the 25 years I've been following the Titans. He's certainly not a "pure point guard", but he's just done a fantastic job making everything run for IWU the last 3 years as a starter.  He's helped lead IWU to two conference titles (13-1, 12-2), two Sweet 16s, and a Final Four.

When I talk to Ron Rose about Overstreet, he always comes back to his leadership ability - just can't say enough great things about Dylan's ability to lead.  When Andy Stempel was on the WJBC postgame after the NCC game recently he said Overstreet is "the best leader I've ever been around."

IWU has been really lucky to have Dylan Overstreet in the program for 4 years.  Just a great kid on and off the court.  He is on my personal "favorite Titans of all time" short list.

[newCCIWfan]

The decision regarding whether or not to archive games for later public viewing is a judgment call for the programs that are able to offer the service; I know that Tom Slyder is reluctant to put most North Park games online after the fact, because it's in essence offering upcoming opponents more game film for them to look at. So I appreciate that, after a couple of this season's big wins (vs. Augie, vs. IWU) he's allowed North Park SID Kevin Shepke to post the archived webcasts online.

Not sure I buy that argument ... all CCIW coaches have access to every game that every other conference school plays. There may be a well thought out reason for being reluctant to post games online, but I doubt that competitive advantage within the CCIW is one of them.

Again, maybe his concern lies outside of the conference, in which case I'll defer to Tom as he is much more of an expert then I.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I hear coaches complain about games being posted online all the time and honestly it is an argument from the past they stick to. Almost every conference has rules set-up to trade game tapes amoungst the conference... and every coach I know works hard to get video from other coaches about an upcoming team out of conference. Posting the vidoes for fans to see in case they missed the game makes sense in terms of making sure to tout your team and any coach's argument against it doesn't hold any water. If you don't think a coach already has video of any game you have played... you are nuts.

[GoPerry]

Week 2's regional rankings made an early appearance today: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2630

Titan and 'Jays fans should really be rooting for WashU to pull out the AQ in the UAA.   They have 3 games left, all home, 2 of which are against teams above them in the standings(NYU, Chicago) although I don't know how the tie-breakers would work things out.

[Gregory Sager]

I hear coaches complain about games being posted online all the time and honestly it is an argument from the past they stick to. Almost every conference has rules set-up to trade game tapes amoungst the conference... and every coach I know works hard to get video from other coaches about an upcoming team out of conference. Posting the vidoes for fans to see in case they missed the game makes sense in terms of making sure to tout your team and any coach's argument against it doesn't hold any water. If you don't think a coach already has video of any game you have played... you are nuts.

This.

I don't make the call on whether or not to archive games, and I don't defend the decision. I merely note that, as D-Mac said, veteran coaches tend to be old-school when it comes to this sort of thing.

Week 2's regional rankings made an early appearance today: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2630

Titan and 'Jays fans should really be rooting for WashU to pull out the AQ in the UAA.   They have 3 games left, all home, 2 of which are against teams above them in the standings(NYU, Chicago) although I don't know how the tie-breakers would work things out.

Keep in mind, though, that Illinois Wesleyan has a win over Chicago and a loss to Wash U. If it comes down to one or the other local UAA outfits making the final double-secret-probation rankings put together by the regional committee the weekend after next -- and it might very well come down to that, since it's definitely within the realm of possibility that the Bears could finish out 1-2 against NYU, Brandeis, and Chicago, since they trail the Violets and the Maroons in the UAA standings and were beaten soundly by both teams in the first UAA round-robin -- the Titans would rather have Chicago make that double-secret-probation ranking than the green and red boys from St. Looie. Since the Titans would thereby pick up a win over a regionally-ranked opponent that could prove vital in their attempt to survive the Pool C bubble, they want the U of C in the Central Region's double-secret-probation ranking.

And Elmhurst wants Wash U to lose at least once, so that the Bluejays can climb ahead of the Bears in the regional rankings.

[GoPerry]

I hear coaches complain about games being posted online all the time and honestly it is an argument from the past they stick to. Almost every conference has rules set-up to trade game tapes amoungst the conference... and every coach I know works hard to get video from other coaches about an upcoming team out of conference. Posting the vidoes for fans to see in case they missed the game makes sense in terms of making sure to tout your team and any coach's argument against it doesn't hold any water. If you don't think a coach already has video of any game you have played... you are nuts.

This.

I don't make the call on whether or not to archive games, and I don't defend the decision. I merely note that, as D-Mac said, veteran coaches tend to be old-school when it comes to this sort of thing.

Week 2's regional rankings made an early appearance today: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2630

Titan and 'Jays fans should really be rooting for WashU to pull out the AQ in the UAA.   They have 3 games left, all home, 2 of which are against teams above them in the standings(NYU, Chicago) although I don't know how the tie-breakers would work things out.

Keep in mind, though, that Illinois Wesleyan has a win over Chicago and a loss to Wash U. If it comes down to one or the other local UAA outfits making the final double-secret-probation rankings put together by the regional committee the weekend after next -- and it might very well come down to that, since it's definitely within the realm of possibility that the Bears could finish out 1-2 against NYU, Brandeis, and Chicago, since they trail the Violets and the Maroons in the UAA standings and were beaten soundly by both teams in the first UAA round-robin -- the Titans would rather have Chicago make that double-secret-probation ranking than the green and red boys from St. Looie. Since the Titans would thereby pick up a win over a regionally-ranked opponent that could prove vital in their attempt to survive the Pool C bubble, they want the U of C in the Central Region's double-secret-probation ranking.

And Elmhurst wants Wash U to lose at least once, so that the Bluejays can climb ahead of the Bears in the regional rankings.

Correct Greg and thanks.

My point was that having WashU in the Pool C mix could be problematic for getting a 3rd CCIW team in, whether that be Elmhurst or Wesleyan.  So taking the Bears out of the equation by getting the AQ or, of course, dropping far down or out of the RR entirely would also do the trick.  Your point is well taken regarding the Maroons as they look to be right with North Central for #8. 

Incidentally, if NCC were to drop out of the ranking, I presume Elmhurst would then go from 4 wins vs regionally-ranked opponents to only 2 (so far) which could prove to be quite significant. 

[Gregory Sager]

Incidentally, if NCC were to drop out of the ranking, I presume Elmhurst would then go from 4 wins vs regionally-ranked opponents to only 2 (so far) which could prove to be quite significant.

Good point.