MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

Started by Board Mod, February 28, 2005, 11:18:51 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: sac on April 30, 2015, 10:55:04 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on April 30, 2015, 05:19:59 PM
Millikin...

* Matt Kruse, 6-9 PF (NCAA D2 McKendree/Monticello H.S. '13)

http://mckbearcats.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=5041&path=mbball


* Nathan Lovekamp, 6-3 SG (Cerro Gordo H.S.)

http://herald-review.com/high-school/bement/whole-lotta-lovekamp/article_21fbf57b-853b-5449-a560-2de1db182f44.html


* Thomas Williams, 6-2 SG (Byron Nelson H.S., Trophy Club, TX '14...formerly Kaneland H.S.)

Must be tough to be on the golf team at that HS, no pressure there.

LOL!

The town's name is kind of intimidating for a high-school athlete, too. (According to Wiki, it was named that because the original plan for the country club adjacent to the new town was for it to house all of Ben Hogan's golf trophies.)

You might be interested to know that Tigers OF Byron Collins is from Trophy Club, TX.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2015, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 10:23:23 PM
I don't see an e-mail address on his profile, either, Pat.

Sorry to have to draw from the tech support 101 playbook, but you are logged in when you look at his profile, right? I don't see any settings in his profile that would hide his email address from a logged-in user.

It's not particularly revealing, by the way -- just a yahoo address.

No need to apologize, Pat, since the only way that I could pass Tech Support 101 is by cheating. ;)

I logged out and then logged back in, and I still don't see an e-mail address on iiwwuu's profile.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

iwumichigander

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2015, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 10:23:23 PM
I don't see an e-mail address on his profile, either, Pat.

Sorry to have to draw from the tech support 101 playbook, but you are logged in when you look at his profile, right? I don't see any settings in his profile that would hide his email address from a logged-in user.

It's not particularly revealing, by the way -- just a yahoo address.

No need to apologize, Pat, since the only way that I could pass Tech Support 101 is by cheating. ;)

I logged out and then logged back in, and I still don't see an e-mail address on iiwwuu's profile.
ditto. - no email address

Gregory Sager

Quote from: izzy stradlin on April 30, 2015, 08:02:34 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on April 30, 2015, 05:21:51 PM
Wheaton
* Reagan Jones, 6-7 PF (Lake Braddock H.S., Burke, VA)
* Trae Masten, 6-6 SF (South Side H.S., Fort Wayne, IN)
* Mike Peters, 6-1 PG/SG (Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy, Stow, OH)

Luke Peters (Tyler's brother), 6-3 G/F also from CVCA is going to Wheaton.  I haven't heard anything about Mike (Tyler's cousin).  Although you may know something I don't.

This clears up a mystery. Tom Slyder told me several months ago that the younger brother of Tyler Peters was going to enroll at Wheaton next year. But when I looked on maxpreps.com at the team roster for Medina HS, which is where Tyler went to school, I didn't see anyone with the surname "Peters" ... so I thought that Tom had made a mistake. Turns out that Tyler's little brother went to the local Christian high school rather than the local public high school his big brother had attended.

Moral of the story: Coach knows best. ;D

Quote from: AndOne on April 30, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Wonder if they will bring the Peters smirk 😏 with them?  ;)

All I can say is that Tyler Peters spent the last year playing for a professional basketball team in Sweden, a country where smirking is against the law.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell


Titan Q


Gregory Sager

Quote from: Titan Q on April 30, 2015, 11:46:19 PM
Millikin
* Matt Kruse, 6-9 PF (NCAA D2 McKendree/Monticello H.S. '13)

Actually, Kruse was at NAIA Lyon College down in Arkansas last season, where he scored four points in three games before apparently leaving the team at the end of November.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

AndOne

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 10:23:23 PM

The other part of that is that the CCIW is (cover your ears, WIAC and SLIAC and MWC and NACC fans ;)) one of the best all-around conferences in the entirety of D3. This league operates overall at a national level of competition in the vast majority of the 23 sports it sponsors. You can't do that unless your league's coaches are out there hustling for players, rather than sitting on their hands waiting for kids out there in Internet Land to fill out the recruitment interest form on the school's website. The CCIW didn't get to the place where it annually has multiple ranked teams in lower-profile sports such as softball, women's soccer, the running sports, etc., by not being proactive in recruiting for those sports.

And, with specific regard to basketball, remember that three different CCIW teams have appeared in the last 4 Final Fours. That doesn't happen if coaches sit in their offices waiting for recruits to come to them.

Titan Q


Titan Q

Augustana
* Jake Asquini, 6-2 SG (St. Charles East H.S.)
* Jordan Bradshaw, 5-10 PG (Hinsdale Central H.S.)
* AJ Dollmeyer, 6-8/240 C (Sauk Valley CC, Polo H.S. '14)
* James Fox, 6-2 PG/SG (Edgerton H.S., Wisconsin)
* Joe Kellen, 6-1 PG/SG (Rockford Lutheran H.S.)
* Jake Nowak, 6-3 G/F (Plainfield North H.S.)
* Sean O'Neil, 6-6 PF (South Eugene H.S., Oregon)
* Chrishawn Orange, 6-2 PG (Jacobs H.S.)
* Pierson Wofford, 6-4 G/F (Springfield Lutheran H.S.)

Carthage
* Matt Acevedo, 6-3 SG (Maine West H.S.)
* Mike Canady, 5-10 PG (Jacobs H.S.)
* Chris Dolce, 6-2 SG (Conant H.S.)

Elmhurst
* Adam Braxton, 6-3 G/F (Leyden Township H.S.)
* Aaron Twist, 6-11 C (West Frankfort H.S.)

Illinois Wesleyan
* Danny Baker, 6-5 F (Vianney H.S., Missouri)
* Nick Coleman, 6-2 PG (St. Patrick H.S., Chicago)
* Mark Falotico, 6-1 PG (St. Viator H.S., Chicago)
* Jason Gregoire, 6-4 SG (Cary-Grove H.S.)
* Chasen Peez, 6-7 F/C (Batavia H.S.)
* Ben Sestak, 6-6 F (Sacred Heart-Griffin H.S., Springfield)

Millikin
* Matt Kruse, 6-9 PF (NCAA D2 McKendree/Monticello H.S. '13)
* Nathaniel Lackey, 6-8 F/C (Fairfield Community H.S.)
* Nathan Lovekamp, 6-3 SG (Cerro Gordo H.S.)
* Tyler Pygon, 5-11 PG (Providence Catholic H.S.)
* Jack Simpson, 5-11 PG/SG (Kickapoo H.S., Springfield, Mo)
* Thomas Williams, 6-2 SG (Byron Nelson H.S., Trophy Club, TX '14...formerly Kaneland H.S.)

North Central
* Jack Bronec, 6-8 C (St. Charles East H.S.)
* Aiden Chang, 6-2 PG/SG (Aquin H.S., Freeport)
* Tanner Gardon, 6-7 SF/PF (Larkin H.S.)
* Logan Ivy, 6-6 F/C (Plainfield Central H.S.)
* Josh Jandron, 5-10 SG (Woodstock North H.S.)
* Connor Raridon, 6-5 G/F (Neuqua Valley H.S.)
* Tommy Koth, 6-3 SF (West Aurora H.S.)

North Park
* Cory Boeckh, 5-10 SG (Jacobs H.S.)

Wheaton
* Reagan Jones, 6-7 PF (Lake Braddock H.S., Burke, VA)
* Trae Masten, 6-6 SF (South Side H.S., Fort Wayne, IN)
* Luke Peters, 6-3 G/F (Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy, Stow, OH)

AO

Quote from: iwumichigander on April 30, 2015, 11:10:01 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2015, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 10:23:23 PM
I don't see an e-mail address on his profile, either, Pat.

Sorry to have to draw from the tech support 101 playbook, but you are logged in when you look at his profile, right? I don't see any settings in his profile that would hide his email address from a logged-in user.

It's not particularly revealing, by the way -- just a yahoo address.

No need to apologize, Pat, since the only way that I could pass Tech Support 101 is by cheating. ;)

I logged out and then logged back in, and I still don't see an e-mail address on iiwwuu's profile.
ditto. - no email address
out of curiosity I looked through the member list and noticed that anyone registering after February 2013, had a much less likely chance of having their email visible to normal posters. 

GoPerry

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2015, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 10:23:23 PM
I don't see an e-mail address on his profile, either, Pat.

Sorry to have to draw from the tech support 101 playbook, but you are logged in when you look at his profile, right? I don't see any settings in his profile that would hide his email address from a logged-in user.

It's not particularly revealing, by the way -- just a yahoo address.



No need to apologize, Pat, since the only way that I could pass Tech Support 101 is by cheating. ;)

I logged out and then logged back in, and I still don't see an e-mail address on iiwwuu's profile.

In your profile, you can check or uncheck the box allowing others to email you.  If you leave the box unchecked, your email address will not appear in your profile.

Greek Tragedy

Here's a serious question.  And before you misunderstand the direction I'm going here, I'm not comparing the WIAC to the CCIW and trying to claim one league is better than the other.

I know this board has been boasting (and for good reason) about 3 different teams in the last four Final 4s. Yet they've lost in the semis in three of them. The WIAC on the other hand, has had 2 dominant teams for the last 10+ years.

Admittedly,  I'm envious with the fact that the CCIW has so much parity with the likes of Augie, IWU,  Wheaton,  NCC, Carthage and Elmhurst (my apologies to Millikin and Sager's North Park). I'm actually a little disappointed in the WIAC since Stevens Point and Whitewater have only had sporadic challenges from the likes of Platteville and River Falls recently.  I almost feel the WIAC has fallen into that MIAA (Hope and Calvin), NESCAC (Amherst and Williams) category; where it's generally a 2-team top-heavy league.

Better to have parity or two dominant teams winning championships?

Pointers
Breed of a Champion
2004, 2005, 2010 and 2015 National Champions

Fantasy Leagues Commissioner

TGHIJGSTO!!!

GoPerry

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 10:23:23 PM

Quote from: GoPerry on April 30, 2015, 11:35:45 AMAppreciate the feedback men and for the gentle correction.   Having thought about it some more, it does make sense that coaches can't afford to sit around and wait for players to come to them if they hope to compete, especially in this league.   That would be true at Wheaton as well even with their different situation(much smaller pool, more targeted pool).  I think my initial suspicion still applies situationally (certain schools/certain sports) but less so with bigger team sports and certainly not in our league and location.

I can tell you that each and every NPU head coach is out there actively recruiting (i.e., making the contacts rather than waiting for the contacts to happen from the student-athlete's end) for his or her sport. The reason isn't just because he or she wants his or her program to succeed; it's because each NPU head coach has to operate with a recruitment quota imposed upon him or her by the administration. And that's because NPU is not a wealthy school; it is to a certain degree tuition-driven with regard to the annual operating budget. In other words, the school counts upon getting x number of new students every year because it needs their tuition money in order to pay the bills and fund the payroll, and it needs the athletic department to function as an adjunct of admissions in that regard.

I know that this is not just the case with North Park. Other CCIW schools have recruitment quotas as well; Carthage football may be the most notorious one in the entire league, given the brobdingnagian size of the Carthage roster every season; there's sometimes been as many as 150 enrollees who show up in the summer at the start of Carthage's preseason camp, and the late Tim Rucks never made any bones about telling people that he was compelled by the school's administration to recruit huge numbers like that. But the point is, for several CCIW schools at least, that coaches have to go out and recruit as a part of their job requirements rather than waiting for potential recruits to come to them. They not only need good players; they need a certain amount of recruited players of any type ... and by recruited players I exclude the D3 equivalent of walk-ons, the guys whom AO indicated as being former high school players who just show up unannounced at an open tryout in the fall. Since they enrolled without any prodding from the coach, he or she doesn't get credit for them as far as the school's administration is concerned.


Now this is a fascinating subtlety in the process which I had never picked up on but also makes sense- especially since a private school that doesn't have at least $400-500M in endowment is likely tuition-driven. 

Would that then be the primary driver, albeit probably unspoken, of a 27 man(IWU), 23(Millikin), or 20(EC) man roster?  It certainly appears so.

GoPerry

#40319

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 30, 2015, 10:23:23 PM

The other part of that is that the CCIW is (cover your ears, WIAC and SLIAC and MWC and NACC fans ;)) one of the best all-around conferences in the entirety of D3.

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on May 01, 2015, 09:01:46 AM
Here's a serious question.  And before you misunderstand the direction I'm going here, I'm not comparing the WIAC to the CCIW and trying to claim one league is better than the other.



Somehow, I knew Greek Tragedy wasn't going to cover his ears . . .  ;)