MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Red and black]

Carthage 68
Oshkosh  67 in overtime

The Red Men were leading by 2 to end regulation, but were called for a foul on oshkosh's 3rd tip in attempt at the buzzer. They put .3 seconds on the clock and made both feee throws to force overtime.

Carthage was down 5 with about 2 min left in OT. Mike Stevenson hit a three around 20 seconds left to get them up one and Turned out to be the game winner.

A good afternoon for the CCIW against a couple of top half WIAC schools

[Titan Q]

Carthage 68
Oshkosh  67 in overtime

The Red Men were leading by 2 to end regulation, but were called for a foul on oshkosh's 3rd tip in attempt at the buzzer. They put .3 seconds on the clock and made both feee throws to force overtime.

Carthage was down 5 with about 2 min left in OT. Mike Stevenson hit a three around 20 seconds left to get them up one and Turned out to be the game winner.

A good afternoon for the CCIW against a couple of top half WIAC schools

Very impressive road win for Carthage vs the preseason pick to win the WIAC.

[Gregory Sager]

#1-Babson 82
Chicago 70

Chicago led most of the 1st half, and by 3 at halftime.  The 2nd half was all Babson.

In a year with a lot of parity, I think Babson is a very solid #1 pick.  1st Team All-American Joey Flannery is a stud and then they have all kinds of other very talented guys. 

That said, I don't see much separation, really, between Babson and many other Top 25 teams.  But overall, I'd say Babson has to be one of the favorites to win the national championship this year.

I agree with everything Bob said. Babson's got plenty of weapons besides Flannery; 6'7 forward Bradley Jacks came into the game averaging a modest 9 ppg, and he went off for 23 this afternoon -- and it clearly wasn't a fluke, either, as he's a talented scorer. As for Flannery, I'd seen him several times online, but you have to see him live to really appreciate his talents. He has a deceptively quick burst and phenomenal body control; you just don't see many guys at this level who can switch hands in midair or redirect themselves the way that he can.

Babson's certainly a top five team, and in the context of what's going on right now at the top of the d3hoops.com poll the Beavers are as good a choice as any for #1. Like Bob, I think that they're a good candidate for Salem but that they're hardly a lock to get there, even coming out of the Northeast Region.

If they were in the CCIW I'd say that the Beavers would be the favorite by a nose over NCC with a healthy Connor Raridon.

[Gregory Sager]

Carroll's slide continues. The Pioneers will certainly be glad to leave the Lone Star State, as they dropped their second game in Texas to Austin, 75-60, extending their losing streak to three. For the second game in a row the Pios, heretofore one of the top shooting teams in the league, had a subpar afternoon from the field, following up their 40% and 32% performance against Dallas with a 41% and 27% effort against the Kangaroos. Tanner Zaeske led the way with 14 and 8, while Tyler Ingebrigtsen contributed 13 off the bench for Carroll (6-5).

Thus, as the CCIW heads back into league play, with only three stray regular-season non-con games remaining, the cumulative record is 49-29 (.628). That's not very impressive by the CCIW's usual standards.

[4samuy]

Augustana was led by:

* Sortillo: 17 pts (4-8 3-point), 4 assists
* Wofford: 14 pts, 4 reb
* Benning: 14 pts (3-5 3-point), 3 reb
* Ebel: 11 pts, 7 assists

When things were on the line, they seemed to play:
G - Orange, 6-2 So. or Ebel, 6-1 So.
G - Sortillo, 6-3 Jr.
G - Benning, 6-6 So. or (F) Wofford, 6-6 So.
F - Johnston, 6-5 Sr.
C - Martin, 6-10 Fr.

It looks like big Micah Martin has emerged as the lead 5-man - he played 19 minutes today w/ Dollmeyer playing 11 and Ferguson 10.  The 6-10 freshman did some really good things on both ends of the floor today in crunch time - he's going to be quite a player.

Augie also continued its remarkable free throw shooting at 80% today and 80% for the season which puts them in the top three in the country as a team.

[4samuy]

I watched the last couple of minutes of the UWSP-NCC game last night.  I have no idea if UWSP had their full complement of players, but, I'd say that NCC would be quite favored in a rematch on a neutral court with Raridon in the lineup.  And, presumable different ref's in the last 40 seconds or so of play.

I watched the last couple of minutes of the UWSP-NCC game last night.  I have no idea if UWSP had their full complement of players, but, I'd say that NCC would be quite favored in a rematch on a neutral court with Raridon in the lineup.  And, presumable different ref's in the last 40 seconds or so of play.

For what it's worth, UWSP is normally a 75% free throw shooting team. Had they shot their normal percentage instead of 60%, that would have been worth 6 more points... And an 8 point victory instead of 2.

I didn't realize that Connor Raridon had risen to Kent Raymond level and any (negative) results that occurred in his absence required an asterisk.

NCC is a good squad. They're 2-2 without Connor. But they were 5-2 with him. It wasn't like they were blowing the doors off of everybody.

And I hope that there is an NCC/UWSP rematch. That'll mean that this young Point team has exceeded expectations.

All in all, though, with how young both these squads are, they're both going to continue to improve this season and should be really good next year too.

UWSP sure did shoot above avg FT % today as well as lights out from three.  Nice road win for Augie

[AndOne]

#1-Babson 82
Chicago 70

Chicago led most of the 1st half, and by 3 at halftime.  The 2nd half was all Babson.

In a year with a lot of parity, I think Babson is a very solid #1 pick.  1st Team All-American Joey Flannery is a stud and then they have all kinds of other very talented guys. 

That said, I don't see much separation, really, between Babson and many other Top 25 teams.  But overall, I'd say Babson has to be one of the favorites to win the national championship this year.

I agree with everything Bob said. Babson's got plenty of weapons besides Flannery; 6'7 forward Bradley Jacks came into the game averaging a modest 9 ppg, and he went off for 23 this afternoon -- and it clearly wasn't a fluke, either, as he's a talented scorer. As for Flannery, I'd seen him several times online, but you have to see him live to really appreciate his talents. He has a deceptively quick burst and phenomenal body control; you just don't see many guys at this level who can switch hands in midair or redirect themselves the way that he can.

Babson's certainly a top five team, and in the context of what's going on right now at the top of the d3hoops.com poll the Beavers are as good a choice as any for #1. Like Bob, I think that they're a good candidate for Salem but that they're hardly a lock to get there, even coming out of the Northeast Region.

If they were in the CCIW I'd say that the Beavers would be the favorite by a nose over NCC with a healthy Connor Raridon.

I don't know, some of those NCC 🏀 guys have pretty big noses. 👃👃👃

[4samuy]

#1-Babson 82
Chicago 70

Chicago led most of the 1st half, and by 3 at halftime.  The 2nd half was all Babson.

In a year with a lot of parity, I think Babson is a very solid #1 pick.  1st Team All-American Joey Flannery is a stud and then they have all kinds of other very talented guys. 

That said, I don't see much separation, really, between Babson and many other Top 25 teams.  But overall, I'd say Babson has to be one of the favorites to win the national championship this year.

I agree with everything Bob said. Babson's got plenty of weapons besides Flannery; 6'7 forward Bradley Jacks came into the game averaging a modest 9 ppg, and he went off for 23 this afternoon -- and it clearly wasn't a fluke, either, as he's a talented scorer. As for Flannery, I'd seen him several times online, but you have to see him live to really appreciate his talents. He has a deceptively quick burst and phenomenal body control; you just don't see many guys at this level who can switch hands in midair or redirect themselves the way that he can.

Babson's certainly a top five team, and in the context of what's going on right now at the top of the d3hoops.com poll the Beavers are as good a choice as any for #1. Like Bob, I think that they're a good candidate for Salem but that they're hardly a lock to get there, even coming out of the Northeast Region.

If they were in the CCIW I'd say that the Beavers would be the favorite by a nose over NCC with a healthy Connor Raridon.

This was the first time I've watched Flannery as well.  I thought Waller Perez really set a tone early on and was in Flannery's J Strap defensively over the first ten minutes.  As all good players do, Flannery figured things out and really let the game come to him.  I would have expected him to start forcing things and he never did.  When you had Jacks playing the way he did, it probably took a little pressure off, but Flannery does have rare skill set.

[4samuy]

Augustana was led by:

* Sortillo: 17 pts (4-8 3-point), 4 assists
* Wofford: 14 pts, 4 reb
* Benning: 14 pts (3-5 3-point), 3 reb
* Ebel: 11 pts, 7 assists

When things were on the line, they seemed to play:
G - Orange, 6-2 So. or Ebel, 6-1 So.
G - Sortillo, 6-3 Jr.
G - Benning, 6-6 So. or (F) Wofford, 6-6 So.
F - Johnston, 6-5 Sr.
C - Martin, 6-10 Fr.

It looks like big Micah Martin has emerged as the lead 5-man - he played 19 minutes today w/ Dollmeyer playing 11 and Ferguson 10.  The 6-10 freshman did some really good things on both ends of the floor today in crunch time - he's going to be quite a player.

With regards to Micah Martin,  it looks as if the staff has has done a nice job with his body and footwork.  He still has the tendency to commit unnecessary fouls. Because of his length he is starting to understand that staying vertical can be very effective at the this level.  But for a guy his size he has a really nice stroke from the line and shoots at a good percentage.  For guy that size it's a nice bonus

[iwu70]

I also don't think Rose was "sour grapes" about the T called on Seibring.  It was, after all, a double T, called on the poor little "mofo" from Middlebury too.   So their must have been blame to go around on both sides.  I'd expect Rose to defend his senior captain and top player.  Sure, it was unfortunate and ill-advised for Trevor to get that call and be out of the game, though the key block making possible the tie at 75-75 was made, I believe, by Trev's backup, Tyler Burdine.  Anyway, what's done is done and the Titans can move on now to the rest of the CCIW season.  I agree with Q that this is a very good, balanced and deep IWU squad, with every chance to win the CCIW and be there at the end of the season in the CCIW Tournament, competing for the AQ.  11-2 the rest of the way would be nice.  Now comes the tough grind against many very good, and some fast improving teams, esp. MU and CC.

Good win for young Augie.  Great game by NPU's Robinson, which I also watched.  Seems MU and CC are improving quickly now.  WC and Carroll not so much.

Already 2017 in HK.  Happy New Year all.

IWU'70

[4samuy]

I also don't think Rose was "sour grapes" about the T called on Seibring.  It was, after all, a double T, called on the poor little "mofo" from Middlebury too.   So their must have been blame to go around on both sides.  I'd expect Rose to defend his senior captain and top player.  Sure, it was unfortunate and ill-advised for Trevor to get that call and be out of the game, though the key block making possible the tie at 75-75 was made, I believe, by Trev's backup, Tyler Burdine.  Anyway, what's done is done and the Titans can move on now to the rest of the CCIW season.  I agree with Q that this is a very good, balanced and deep IWU squad, with every chance to win the CCIW and be there at the end of the season in the CCIW Tournament, competing for the AQ.  11-2 the rest of the way would be nice.  Now comes the tough grind against many very good, and some fast improving teams, esp. MU and CC.

Good win for young Augie.  Great game by NPU's Robinson, which I also watched.  Seems MU and CC are improving quickly now.  WC and Carroll not so much.

Already 2017 in HK.  Happy New Year all.

IWU'70

Yeah IWU'70,  I was probably a little harsh as it relates to "sour grapes". Rose was just protecting his player.  I just have a "next man up" philosophy and if someone goes down the story line shouldn't be who you lost, but who stepped up.  My bad.

[4samuy]

I know you it's early, but based on what I've seen, factoring in strength of  schedule, quality of play, depth, talent,  coaching etc. I would give NPU, IWU and NCC the best chances to make the CCIW tournament.  Since Augie has already beaten Carthage I would give them the fourth spot.  I said early on and will continue to believe that IWU will win the regular season title.  To much talent and depth.

[iwu70]

Actually, the "next man up" for IWU in that situation played well, making a key play.  Burdine is a pretty good back up for Seibring.  IWU didn't lose because of Trevor being out, because of the T.  They lost because they missed key front-end of 1 and 1, then couldn't defend the great step back 15 foot jumper by the Middlebury guy, with 2 seconds to go.  Titans just needed one more possession, to complete the comeback.  Too bad, tough loss.  You're bound to have a few of those each season.  Move on.  MU is up next at The Shirk.  Gotta get wins, one game at a time.  Build the resume.

I share your view, 4samuy, of the four who are likely to be there at the end, in the CCIW tournament. 

IWU70

[bbfan44]

I know you it's early, but based on what I've seen, factoring in strength of  schedule, quality of play, depth, talent,  coaching etc. I would give NPU, IWU and NCC the best chances to make the CCIW tournament.  Since Augie has already beaten Carthage I would give them the fourth spot.  I said early on and will continue to believe that IWU will win the regular season title.  To much talent and depth.

This guy is hoping for NPU or NCC to win the title.  Trips to IWU and Augie are not easy.  From what has played out so far, it's anybody's guess.

[markerickson]

Manchester's leading ppg and apg player, Tyler Alexander, impressed me.  He's a lefty who knows how to use a pivot foot and pump fake.  He hit some treys as well.  G Adrian Johnson showed speed and flashes of talent (15 pts), but sat too much due to foul trouble.  I thought he got jobbed on ticky-tack calls as did others.  This game and the loss to Carroll had different refereeing crews, but their MO was the same, and that is not a compliment.  NP benefited this time as Robinson and Henry went 23-26 from the charity stripe in contrast to their .500 performance against Carroll.  Robinson shot "only" 50% (3-6) from downtown.