MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Pat Coleman]

IWU has lost 6-8 Trevor Seibring to a back injury. No timetable on return.

Bump.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

IWU has lost 6-8 Trevor Seibring to a back injury. No timetable on return.

I really hope this is the Top 25 graphics jinx. I just started those for some attention this past week on Twitter... sheesh.

Here is hoping for a speedy recovering for Seibring. Backs are a bitch, but I hope it isn't that bad and we can see him play more this season.

[badgerwarhawk]

(Although tonight's defensive set would be best described as neither man nor zone, but rather none of the above. I've seen middle school teams play better D than the Vikings played tonight.)

Evidently you haven't seen us play. 

[iwumichigander]

IWU has lost 6-8 Trevor Seibring to a back injury. No timetable on return.

I really hope this is the Top 25 graphics jinx. I just started those for some attention this past week on Twitter... sheesh.

Here is hoping for a speedy recovering for Seibring. Backs are a bitch, but I hope it isn't that bad and we can see him play more this season.

according to Ron Rose post game comment , Seibring will not play Saturday either. 

[Gregory Sager]

That means plenty of Burdine-versus-Perry action in the low post.



Seriously, though, that should be a very interesting game. And it could be a pivotal contest in the CCIW race, especially if Carthage wins. I don't know if anybody's looked ahead to the second round-robin yet, but the Red Men will get Augustana, North Park, Illinois Wesleyan, and North Central all at Tarble the second time around. For that matter, they'll get Wheaton, which is probably going to be very dangerous in February, at Tarble as well.

Home court never comes with any guarantees in the CCIW, of course, a fact that the Red Men themselves have proved thus far. Nevertheless, Carthage is fantastically set up for a second round-robin run. Winning at Shirk on Saturday could be a real springboard for Bosko's Boys.

[iwumichigander]

With respect to IWU vs Augustana, IWU not having Seibring did hurt particularly with the rotation.  But give credit to Augustana as I was impressed with their young bigs.  Titans could not buy a three particularly in second half and the Vikings did a good job guarding the three. 
Chrishawn Orange had a huge 2nd half scoring 15  of his 19 points.  And Pierson Wofford coming off the bench had a really good game putting in 8 in each half at almost a point per minute - very efficient.
I think IWU might be digging out of a big hole the rest of the way this season.

[iwumichigander]

That means plenty of Burdine-versus-Perry action in the low post.



Seriously, though, that should be a very interesting game. And it could be a pivotal contest in the CCIW race, especially if Carthage wins. I don't know if anybody's looked ahead to the second round-robin yet, but the Red Men will get Augustana, North Park, Illinois Wesleyan, and North Central all at Tarble the second time around. For that matter, they'll get Wheaton, which is probably going to be very dangerous in February, at Tarble as well.

Home court never comes with any guarantees in the CCIW, of course, a fact that the Red Men themselves have proved thus far. Nevertheless, Carthage is fantastically set up for a second round-robin run. Winning at Shirk on Saturday could be a real springboard for Bosko's Boys.

Burdine will need to find a way to put the ball in the hoop, stay away from fouls and be more efficient and effective.  He also needs to let the game come to him a little more.

[realist]

2016 -- Due to the difficulty of attracting 3 quality teams, the long term, season opening Tip-Off Tournament was discontinued. Same thing is happening to a number of schools with traditional season opening tourneys.

I wonder why more programs don't do something like the MIAA/CCIW challenge (or whatever it's called).

Even if you ran it as a four team tournament... And just rotated the host annually.

The MIAA/CCIW challenge with Hope, Calvin, Wheaton and Carthage no longer exists.  One reason given was the addition of Carrol to the CCIW.  Calvin did play both Wheaton and Carthage this year.  Did well beating Carthage, but not well losing to Wheaton.

[Greek Tragedy]

2016 -- Due to the difficulty of attracting 3 quality teams, the long term, season opening Tip-Off Tournament was discontinued. Same thing is happening to a number of schools with traditional season opening tourneys.

I wonder why more programs don't do something like the MIAA/CCIW challenge (or whatever it's called).

Even if you ran it as a four team tournament... And just rotated the host annually.

The MIAA/CCIW challenge with Hope, Calvin, Wheaton and Carthage no longer exists.  One reason given was the addition of Carrol to the CCIW.  Calvin did play both Wheaton and Carthage this year.  Did well beating Carthage, but not well losing to Wheaton.

I suppose adding two conference games doesn't help, but get rid of playing a couple of WIAC scrubs instead and keep that challenge going.

[iwu70]

Yes, without Seibring, the Titans could well struggle.  No doubt.  He's a good passer, rebounding and much of the offense for good perimeter shots comes through him.  Surely not the same with Burdine in the game.  I think Rose will often play Bausch and Beasley instead as they are better passers and also can shoot the three.  Key then is having enough rebounding and rim protection.  Titans will have to find a way.

Carthage does seem well set up for the second half rotation of games and they are surely playing well.  Augie too.

IWU'70

[4samuy]

Augustana 92
IWU 77

* Chrishawn Orange: 19 pts, 5 reb, 2 assists
* Pierson Wofford: 16 pts, 6 reb, 2 assists
* Dylan Sortillo: 14 pts, 4 reb, 3 assists
* Micah Martin: 7 pts, 4 reb, 6 blocks

* Brady Rose: 16 pts
* Alec Bausch: 15 pts, 5 reb, 4 assists
* Nick Coleman: 12 pts

In the first half, 6-10 Micah Martin was a defensive force in the paint, blocking shots and altering others.  IWU hung around nicely, leading for a decent stretch of the 1st and trailing by only 1 at the half.

In the 2nd, IWU's defense was awful - the Titans gave up 53 in the final 20 minutes and had all kinds of problems with dribble penetration.  Chrishawn Orange had a great second half.

IWU (3-3) has Carthage (3-1) coming to the Shirk Center Saturday in a biggie.

Couple of thoughts on IWU vs Augie game last night.

The first 15 minutes of the game IMHO IWU was playing as if they had to win and Augie played as if they wanted to win. I thought IWUs defense was aggressive, organized, and confusing Augie switching between man and I believe a matchup zone.  defensively I thought the IWU guards were excellent on the perimeter.  Even without Seibring, I thought they were playing an excellent game both offensively and defensively.  I do believe as the game approached halftime, the Augie bigs, especially Micah Martin really influenced the course of the game.  I had mentioned in a post about a week ago that because of his length(not only 6"10 but very long wingspan) he is starting to understand how to use it as a rim protector.  IMHO, that has really helped the deficiencies that Augie has had defending the perimeter, having more confidence that they have bigs that will have their backs if they get beat off the dribble.  This was by far the best perimeter defensive effort  all year for Augie.

Augie started figure out the IWU defense and started to have success with dribble penetration in the second half, coming out of the break with an 8-0 run which ultimately made it tough on IWU to recover.  This was the second straight game that the Vikings were without 6'9 Donovan Ferguson.

IMO moving forward, teams will need to have very efficient games from the perimeter versus Augustana, which was happening early on but it looks as if Augies perimeter defense, at least over the last two games is starting to get better.

Augie has been playing real well on the offensive end and as they stated last night on the broadcast "it's not often that you see An Augie  offense ahead of an Augie defense".  That is still the case this year, but the defense seems to be coming together.

[4samuy]

Yes, without Seibring, the Titans could well struggle.  No doubt.  He's a good passer, rebounding and much of the offense for good perimeter shots comes through him.  Surely not the same with Burdine in the game.  I think Rose will often play Bausch and Beasley instead as they are better passers and also can shoot the three.  Key then is having enough rebounding and rim protection.  Titans will have to find a way.

Carthage does seem well set up for the second half rotation of games and they are surely playing well.  Augie too.

IWU'70

I was very impressed with the athleticism and first step quickness of both Rose and Coleman last night.  They are both a really tough cover.

[AndOne]

Yes, without Seibring, the Titans could well struggle.  No doubt.  He's a good passer, rebounding and much of the offense for good perimeter shots comes through him.  Surely not the same with Burdine in the game.  I think Rose will often play Bausch and Beasley instead as they are better passers and also can shoot the three.  Key then is having enough rebounding and rim protection.  Titans will have to find a way.

Carthage does seem well set up for the second half rotation of games and they are surely playing well.  Augie too.

IWU'70

Trevor Seibring is just a very darn good player and any extended absence will do nothng but hurt the Green Team.
I think the player most capable of supplying what IWU will need in Seibring's absence is Alec Bausch.
The more that Nick Coleman plays the better off IWU will be. Coleman shoots better overall, better from distance, and better from the line than a current starter. As a bonus, he also has a much better A/TO ratio. He should be IWU's starter at the point. High scorer Brady Rose could then move to the 2G where he could concentrate more on his shooting and scoring prowess without having to worry as much about floor leadership.

[iwumichigander]

Yes, without Seibring, the Titans could well struggle.  No doubt.  He's a good passer, rebounding and much of the offense for good perimeter shots comes through him.  Surely not the same with Burdine in the game.  I think Rose will often play Bausch and Beasley instead as they are better passers and also can shoot the three.  Key then is having enough rebounding and rim protection.  Titans will have to find a way.

Carthage does seem well set up for the second half rotation of games and they are surely playing well.  Augie too.

IWU'70

Trevor Seibring is just a very darn good player and any extended absence will do nothng but hurt the Green Team.
I think the player most capable of supplying what IWU will need in Seibring's absence is Alec Bausch.
The more that Nick Coleman plays the better off IWU will be. Coleman shoots better overall, better from distance, and better from the line than a current starter. As a bonus, he also has a much better A/TO ratio. He should be IWU's starter at the point. High scorer Brady Rose could then move to the 2G where he could concentrate more on his shooting and scoring prowess without having to worry as much about floor leadership.

I think sometimes overcoming injuries just depends on how you matchup with your next opponent.  NCC has found ways to overcome injury to Raridon.  The matchup with Augie at Augie was going to tough with Seibring.  But trying to plan a new rotation against a team with Augie depth of bigs - not  easy to pull off.  I think we may see some changes by IWU vs Carthage.  And no offense to Burdine, the 5 spot was IMO the weak spot for IWU before play started this season.

[Titan Q]

And no offense to Burdine, the 5 spot was IMO the weak spot for IWU before play started this season.

With Trevor Seibring returning, the 5 was the weak spot for IWU heading into 2016-17?