MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Mr. Ypsi]

Brice Robinson ‏@Brice9R
Proud to say I will carry on the tradition of Oswego High School #42s next year at Illinois Wesleyan University! 🏀

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Ron Rose and the Titans have landed Brice Robinson, a 6-7 forward from Oswego H.S..  Robinson averaged 15.9 points and 7.6 rebounds as a senior and was named Beacon-News area Player of the Year.  He was offered a scholarship by NCAA D2 UW-Parkside and was recruited heavily at the small college level.

I believe this is a significant addition for the Titans.

Significant PG recruit for IWU...

* Grant Wolfe, 6-0 PG, Effingham H.S.  21 ppg, 5 rpg, 6 apg

Yes, a couple recent IWU commits per Twitter...


* Max Muller, 6-5 G/F, Porta H.S. (Petersburg, IL)

Muller seems to be a significant recruit for IWU.  He is a 6-5, extremely skilled wing player - can handle the ball, shoot it, and post up.  He was recruited heavily at the small college level and, I believe, had an offer from D2 Quincy.  I've heard his name since the late-summer.

TQ,

I think it might be a good idea for you to come up with a new adjective to describe your IWU recruits.
"Significant" seems to be a bit of a jinx. 😔

One of last year's "significant" recruits, Brice Robinson, who averaged 15.9 PPG and 7.6 RPG as a HS senior, played a grand total of 14 minutes all year, and another, Daniel Hoekstra, the leading scorer in the history of his HS, didn't even make the IWU varsity team!
Perhaps "nice," "good," or even "desired" would suffice until such time as the recruit actually makes the varsity and becomes a significant contributor, or at least until he plays significant minutes.

While your post has some merit, may I remind you of Keelan Amelianovich.  I can't seem to find his freshman year stats, but he was basically JV.  Sophomore year, he was CCIW MOP.

While I wouldn't expect Q to bat 1.000, if he says 'significant', I'm content if he is batting .500.   (Heck, .350 would likely put you in the HoF ).

[AndOne]

Amelianovich was not a significant recruit, but certainly developed into a significantly special player. 
I'll take that .350 anytime too, Ypsi. 

[iwu70]

I trust Q's assessment.  I'm sure some of the JV players will have to step up now and have their day in the IWU program.  Very few significant players were very significant in their freshman year.  In IWU's entire illustrious basketball history, I can only think of 2-3 freshman who really played a key role their first year.  Patience and development have to be in play, then significant can usually happen junior and senior year. 

I'd love to see Wolfe and Muller play significant varsity minutes by their second year at IWU. 

IWU actually needs to recruit some bigs, some post presence, paint defense, and rebounding, not all these wing players and gunners. 

IWU70

[Titan Q]

I think it's pretty obvious that "significant recruit" is not synonymous with playing time as a freshman.  And it would be a waste of time to even type any more words to explain that a college athletic career consists of 4 years.

Based on the evaluations of people not affiliated with IWU in any way (other CCIW/D3 coaches, AAU coaches, HS recruiting evaluators, etc) who I have spoken with, I will stick by "significant" for Brice Robinson, Grant Wolfe, and Max Muller. 

[Titan Q]

One of last year's "significant" recruits, Brice Robinson, who averaged 15.9 PPG and 7.6 RPG as a HS senior, played a grand total of 14 minutes all year, and another, Daniel Hoekstra, the leading scorer in the history of his HS, didn't even make the IWU varsity team!

The extent of what I posted about Daniel Hoekstra a year ago...

IWU has landed Daniel Hoekstra, a 6-3 SG from Bishop McNamara H.S...

https://twitter.com/TheReal_Hook31/status/712064194422685700

http://www.prephoops.com/2016/03/daniel-hoekstra-illinois-wesleyan/

http://www.daily-journal.com/sports/boys-basketball-meet-our-all-area-team/article_6b8debb6-496d-5cc4-bd75-1905039a339d.html


Hoekstra averaged 19.5 points and 7.2 rebounds as a senior.  He is Bishop Mac's all-time leading scorer.

[Pat Coleman]

It seems significant that a word is missing there.

[Gregory Sager]

I'm contemplating whether or not to crank up the fog machine by using the word "insignificant" to describe all of NPU's recruits from now on.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I'm contemplating whether or not to crank up the fog machine by using the word "insignificant" to describe all of NPU's recruits from now on.

Now THAT would make you really popular with the team!

[iwumichigander]

It seems significant that a word is missing there.

A significant observation!

[iwu70]

What IWU really needs is a significant recruit like another Victor Davis, or someone significantly similar.

'70

[Gregory Sager]

I'm contemplating whether or not to crank up the fog machine by using the word "insignificant" to describe all of NPU's recruits from now on.

Now THAT would make you really popular with the team!

They're all aware that there's typically a method to my madness.

[AndOne]

I'm contemplating whether or not to crank up the fog machine by using the word "insignificant" to describe all of NPU's recruits from now on.

Now THAT would make you really popular with the team!

They're all aware that there's typically a method to my madness.

With the key word being madness! 🃏 

[Gregory Sager]

Madness, you say?

[AndOne]

Madness, you say?

Oh yes. But, with affection! 😉 😊

[AndOne]

I think it's pretty obvious that "significant recruit" is not synonymous with playing time as a freshman.  And it would be a waste of time to even type any more words to explain that a college athletic career consists of 4 years.

Based on the evaluations of people not affiliated with IWU in any way (other CCIW/D3 coaches, AAU coaches, HS recruiting evaluators, etc) who I have spoken with, I will stick by "significant" for Brice Robinson, Grant Wolfe, and Max Muller.

Definition of significant

1:  having meaning; especially :  suggestive * a significant glance

2  a :  having or likely to have influence or effect :  important a significant piece of legislation; also :  of a noticeably or measurably large amount a significant number of layoffs producing significant profits
    b :  probably caused by something other than mere chance statistically significant correlation between vitamin deficiency and disease

While a college athletic career usually does indeed last 4 years, use of the word "significant" in describing a recruit is suggestive that said significance will emerge sooner rather than after an extended time out. The inference being that if something is "significant" it will remain so in the near future rather than rather quickly dropping almost entirely out of sight. Accordingly, its difficult to correlate the term "significant," when describing a recruit, with a player who after another entire season since being removed from his "significant" recruit status, has seen a total of 14 minutes of playing time. Where is the significance in only 14 minutes?

Likewise, we have all seen recruits with gaudy high school stats basically disappear at the next level. Such stats are no guarantee that a recruit will have success at the next level. His HS career may have been significant, but once the high school segment of his career is over, he needs to meet a new set of standards in order to maintain his significance as he transitions to the next level.

Additionally, as far as evaluations of "people not affiliated with IWU in any way," the CCIW coach you named evidently didn't excel at identifying significant recruits, or at least not enough of them. AAU coaches are almost always prejudiced in favor of their team members. And HS recruiting evaluators (who are getting to be a dime a dozen) often get their information, and thus largely base their evaluations on the info provided to them by those biased AAU coaches.

Lastly, please remember that only a limited number of whatever group you may be making reference too can truly be identified as being "significant." Accordingly, not all or almost all of the recruits who will matriculate into green uniforms next year will meet the qualifications.
There are only a limited number of those slots left. 
Be judicious with your remaining evaluations.