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Augie6

Quote from: Titan Q on March 03, 2018, 08:53:19 AM
Brady Rose's 21.4 points per game average in 2017-18 was IWU's 3rd highest single season average in the last 20 years, and 6th highest in the last 40 years. He's the first Ron Rose-recruited IWU player to average 20.0+ ppg in a season.

Last 20 seasons
-Korey Coon (22.0 ppg), 1999-00
-Zach Freeman (21.6 ppg), 2006-07
-Brady Rose (21.4 ppg), 2017-18
-Brent Niebrugge (20.0 ppg), 1997-98

Last 40 seasons
-Blaise Bugajaski (26.4 ppg), 1983-84
-Jeff Kuehl (25.0 ppg), 1987-88
-Bryan Crabtree (22.6 ppg), 1996-97
-Korey Coon (22.0 ppg), 1999-00
-Zach Freeman (21.6 ppg), 2006-07
-Brady Rose (21.4 ppg), 2017-18
-David Caldwell (20.9 ppg), 1990-91
-Jeff Kuehl (20.8 ppg), 1989-90
-Blaise Bugajaski (20.5 ppg), 1982-83
-Greg Yell (20.5 ppg), 1980-81
-Brent Niebrugge (20.0 ppg), 1997-98
-Chris Simich (20.0 ppg), 1994-95

I think you mean Greg Yess.  He went to the same high school that I did.
Augie Football:  CCIW Champions:  1949-66-68-75-81-82-83-84-85-86-87-88-90-91-93-94-97-99-01-05-06     NCAA Champions:  1983-84-85-86

Titan Q

Quote from: Augie6 on March 03, 2018, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on March 03, 2018, 08:53:19 AM
Brady Rose's 21.4 points per game average in 2017-18 was IWU's 3rd highest single season average in the last 20 years, and 6th highest in the last 40 years. He's the first Ron Rose-recruited IWU player to average 20.0+ ppg in a season.

Last 20 seasons
-Korey Coon (22.0 ppg), 1999-00
-Zach Freeman (21.6 ppg), 2006-07
-Brady Rose (21.4 ppg), 2017-18
-Brent Niebrugge (20.0 ppg), 1997-98

Last 40 seasons
-Blaise Bugajaski (26.4 ppg), 1983-84
-Jeff Kuehl (25.0 ppg), 1987-88
-Bryan Crabtree (22.6 ppg), 1996-97
-Korey Coon (22.0 ppg), 1999-00
-Zach Freeman (21.6 ppg), 2006-07
-Brady Rose (21.4 ppg), 2017-18
-David Caldwell (20.9 ppg), 1990-91
-Jeff Kuehl (20.8 ppg), 1989-90
-Blaise Bugajaski (20.5 ppg), 1982-83
-Greg Yell (20.5 ppg), 1980-81
-Brent Niebrugge (20.0 ppg), 1997-98
-Chris Simich (20.0 ppg), 1994-95

I think you mean Greg Yess.  He went to the same high school that I did.

Yess, that is what I meant.

USee

#48167
The match ups for tonight's 2nd round game:

Augustana Vikings (22-5, 12-4 CCIW)
G-Nolan "Cain and" Ebel
G-Chrishawn Orange "is the new Black"
G-"Bob" Dylan Sortillo
G- Brett "Favre-Annette" Benning
F-Donovan "Mitchell" Ferguson

F-Micah "Kenyon" Martin
F-"Johnny" Carson Frakes
G-Joe "Biden" Kellen "Winslow"
G-Lucas "Oil Stadium" Simon "Sez"


Hope  Flying Dutchmen(19-9, 10-4 MIAA)
G-Jason "Kidd" Beckman
F-Teddy "Kaczynski" Ray "Allen"
G-Dennis "Bridges" Towns
F-Dante "Hersey" Hawkins
C- Preston "Away in A" Granger

C-Rob "Reiner" McGivney
G-Danny "Manning" Beckman
G-Riley "Curry-King" Louis "XIV"
G-Luke "Washer and" Dreyer

Gregory Sager

#48168
Nice description of the GU @ AC game, Bob. I would just add a couple of things:

Quote from: Titan Q on March 03, 2018, 09:11:25 AM#3 - It forces the opponent to use different personnel and combinations than normal.

The interesting thing about last night is that, for the most part, Augie didn't use different personnel and combinations than normal. I don't know if Grey Giovanine is just too stubborn to ever concede the need to revamp his rotation for a specific opponent, or if he felt that what he had at hand was adequate to the task of playing a team that had three sets of guys who were going to sprint up and down the floor nonstop for 35-40 seconds at a time and then exit. But he didn't really change his rotation much at all. He typically uses ten players per game, and last night that's exactly how many players he used. In fact, Sortillo and Benning played more minutes than usual, Orange was right on his season average in terms of playing time, and Ebel would've been right on his if he hadn't fouled out with three and a half minutes remaining.

The only real concessions that Giovanine seemed to make were that he cut his flotilla of aircraft carriers in half, using only Ferguson and Martin while benching Dollmeyer and Youngblut (a move which surprised me a little, because Youngblut is actually quite mobile and seemed more suited for an up-and-down game than his fellow Augie centers), and he gave Jelen the most minutes he's had since Augie played Elmhurst a month and a half ago. But he seldom went small; Ferguson and Martin played 36 minutes between them, and their combined totals (19 points on 9-11 shooting, 17 rebounds, and five blocks) justified Giovanine's insistence upon using them so much. It's also worth noting that they didn't score their points via the cherry-picking route typical of big men reaping the fruits of successful press breaks against a System team. They got them in halfcourt sets.

The only other thing that I would add to your succinct description of last night's game is a point that Dan Sand spent a big chunk of the broadcast harping about -- Greenville outworked Augustana on the boards, especially at the offensive end, for the first 25-28 minutes of the game. The Panthers gave away a mountain's worth of height to Augustana, but they were fierce and aggressive in the way that they attacked the glass, and Augie didn't really respond to that until well into the second half. The first-half rebounding stats are glaring: GU outboarded AC 29-19, including 13-5 at the offensive end. Even by game's end, well after Greenville's efforts had flagged and Augie had started to assert itself in the rebounding department, the carom numbers favored the Panthers to the tune of 51-50, and 26-14 at the offensive end. But Augie's near-catch-up in terms of rebounding, and the fact that Augie not only caught up to Greenville on the scoreboard with 8:11 to go but actually pulled ahead down the stretch by as many as 16 points (just before Ebel fouled out), illustrates a key point that GU head coach George Barber noted in the QC Online writeup of the game -- Greenville expected to wear down Augustana, and it never did. In fact, the opposite seemed to happen. Losing Dix was big, of course, but Greenville obviously did not have the legs late in the game that Augie had. Chalk up one more plus for Grey Giovanine and his stubborn insistence upon using his standard rotation.

Now, not to keep giving credit to Dan Sand, but he was right about Greenville's rebounding advantage not being a particularly "System-oriented" stat. System inventor Dave Arseneault always stressed offensive rebounding, and I've seen System games in which as many as four or even five System players would crash the boards after a shot, but Greenville didn't do that at all. As Dan said, the Panthers didn't dominate the boards because of the System; they dominated it because of hustle and good positioning, the latter of which was consistently noticeable. It really surprised me, because GU averaged -8 in rebounding margin on the season coming into last night. GU came in with a good game plan and played both hard and smart around the basket. Juco alumni have a bad reputation among some people as being undercoached and undisciplined players, but Greenville put the lie to that stereotype last night.

Greenville only loses three seniors, none of them major pieces. That could be a really interesting team next season. Maybe they'll even get hopefan to make a special trip or two up from Florida next season just to see them. ;)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

BBJones

Coach Giovanne was either stubborn or stupid. Neither a good thing.

What about Wash U not covering the inbounds pass vs. Aurora?  Major faux pas cost them the game.

Titan Q

Quote from: BBJones on March 03, 2018, 04:49:36 PM
What about Wash U not covering the inbounds pass vs. Aurora?  Major faux pas cost them the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ej71jsLiOM

I don't think Wash U really did anything wrong in that final sequence.  I think the inbounder made a tremendous decision, and pass -- and then the kid who caught it and shot it just made a spectacular play. 

(Interesting - looks like one of the AU players was trying to call timeout before the inbounds.)

Gregory Sager

#48171
Quote from: BBJones on March 03, 2018, 04:49:36 PM
Coach Giovanne was either stubborn or stupid. Neither a good thing.

Disagree. The results speak for themselves.

Quote from: BBJones on March 03, 2018, 04:49:36 PMWhat about Wash U not covering the inbounds pass vs. Aurora?  Major faux pas cost them the game.

Disagree about that, too. I've discussed it in detail on both the NACC and 2018 NCAA Tournament pages.

Quote from: Titan Q on March 03, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
I don't think Wash U really did anything wrong in that final sequence.  I think the inbounder made a tremendous decision, and pass -- and then the kid who caught it and shot it just made a spectacular play. 

(Interesting - looks like one of the AU players was trying to call timeout before the inbounds.)


As I said on the NACC page, I strongly suspect that it was a set play by Aurora. Matt Dunn (#3) turned to the AU bench, and then immediately gestured at the guy with the ball in his hands who almost pulled the Chris Webber (#20, Ty Carlson) to give the ball to Max Vickers as Vickers was stepping across the endline to inbound the ball.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Mr. Ypsi

At the half: Augie 46, Hope 40.  Sortillo with 19, on 5-7 shooting from deep.

Gregory Sager

That's the first time I've ever seen a jump ball called because two players from the same team were holding the ball.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Yogao

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 03, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
That's the first time I've ever seen a jump ball called because two players from the same team were holding the ball.

At least they didn't travel, step out of bounds, or both drop the ball for an easy Hope bucket.  It does kind of remind me of the time 2 U of Florida linemen were blocking each other on a play.

Gregory Sager

Augie pulls the plug on The Hawkins and Beckman Show, as Dylan Sortillo pre-empted the Dutch with a career-high 30 points en route to a 95-83 Augie win.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

iwu70

Congrats to Augie on Sweet 16, yet again.  Keep going.

IWU'70

Titan Q

I believe the seeding order of these 4 teams is:

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-final

1. Augustana: .815 (22-5)/.572/8-3  Central #1
2. John Carroll: .821 (23-5)/.544/7-2  Great Lakes #2
3. Emory: .840 (21-4)/.530/4-2  South #1
4. UW-Oshkosh: .741 (20-7)/.555/4-4  Central #5

Since this is a 2 flight situation either way, there is no reason to not give it to the highest seed.

4samuy


wiz

Quote from: 4samuy on March 04, 2018, 11:45:20 AM
Augustana hosting sectional March 9-10.
This should be a great one.  Hoping I can make it over!