MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[iwu70]

Ypsi, men's side look'n good.  Would be great to see all three in the Sweet Sixteen.  We'll see tomorrow.  There will be better days for the women.  Sorry to see our Titans play so poorly tonight.

IWU'70

[lmitzel]

When, if ever, has the CCIW gone 3-0 in the first round?  Kudos!!

Actually happened four years ago. Augie made the national title game that year, while Illinois Wesleyan and Elmhurst both won their openers before dropping their second round matchups.

In 2012, the conference actually got three to the Sweet 16 (North Central and Wheaton both lost there, Illinois Wesleyan made it to Salem).

[lmitzel]

North Central 77
Chatham 48

NCC was actually down by one at the half, 25-24. The Cards couldn't hit a shot to save their lives, no matter where on the floor they took it, and the small and gritty Cougars were definitely outhustling them. But the Napervillains came out with a sense of purpose at both ends of the floor in the second stanza, and blew by the Cougars like they were standing still, outscoring the visitors by an impressive 53-23 margin.

Connor Raridon had an 18 and 7 game in only 25 minutes played, and Will Clausel scored 14 in only 17 minutes. Matt Cappelletti grabbed 11 boards, and Blaise Meredith garnered nine of 'em.

Tomorrow night's Loras @ NCC contest should be a doozy.

Yeah it will.

North Central was actually kind of lucky to only be down one at the intermission. Chatham, a 70 percent free throw shooting team, went 3-9 from the stripe in the first half (and 7-17 for the game). I don't know that the Cougars making about their season average and thus being up four at halftime as opposed to one would have changed the outcome though.

Connor Raridon put on a pretty nice show to open the second half, scoring four in a decisive 9-0 run to open the second half, then broke out the midrange game to help put it away. He also made a pretty 60 foot pass to a streaking Matt Cappelletti for a layup to really help get things going during that stretch.

Tale of two halves: 1-13 from three in the first half; 5-11 in the second. It was a little weird not being able to do my normal three call in the interests of neutrality, but it worked.

[AndOne]

North Central 77
Chatham 48

NCC was actually down by one at the half, 25-24. The Cards couldn't hit a shot to save their lives, no matter where on the floor they took it, and the small and gritty Cougars were definitely outhustling them. But the Napervillains came out with a sense of purpose at both ends of the floor in the second stanza, and blew by the Cougars like they were standing still, outscoring the visitors by an impressive 53-23 margin.

Connor Raridon had an 18 and 7 game in only 25 minutes played, and Will Clausel scored 14 in only 17 minutes. Matt Cappelletti grabbed 11 boards, and Blaise Meredith garnered nine of 'em.

Tomorrow night's Loras @ NCC contest should be a doozy.

C'mon Gregory. The Cardinals shot a robust 32.3% overall in the 1st half, and an even more impressive 7.7% from three. 🤮

Not only did Will Clausel score 14 points in 17 minutes, but he was a perfect 6-6 from the field, including 1-1 from three, and 1-1 from the line. As a bonus he added 3 boards and 2 assists.

Sensing the intensity level will through the roof from start to finish tomorrow night. 🏀 💥

[AndOne]

If it matters, Albion has played both losing to Loras by 11 tonight and North Central way back in December by 19  77-58.

Could just be me, but I honestly don't think it matters one bit. 🤔 🤷🏻‍♂️

[kiko]

So I wandered over to the PAC board to see if there was any perspective from the Chatham side on the game at the Hangar this evening.  Wasn't expecting much, but figured 'what the heck'...

And I discovered that traffic there is so sparse that the most recent page of posts dates back to December 2009.

I knew this board was prolific, but wow...  I may purchase the rights to d3ghosttown.com and point it there...

[Titan Q]

Thinking of a potential Sectional that is...
- Nebraska Wesleyan
- Wittenberg
- UW-Oshkosh
- North Central

The location that requires no flights is Naperville, IL.  Official mileage:
- Nebraska Wesleyan to North Central = 496.0
- Wittenberg to North Central = 336.0
- UW-Oshkosh to North Central = 187.0

In this Sectional scenario, neither Wittenberg (770.0) or Oshkosh (575.0) can get to Lincoln, NE without a flight. 

UW-Oshkosh as the Sectional host would require one flight.  Wittenberg (486.0) and North Central (186.0) can bus there...Nebraska Wesleyan (575.0) can't.  With Oshkosh a higher overall seed than NCC, the Titans could be the choice to host...if the NCAA is willing to pay for one flight.  But in this scenario, I think NCC would have like a 75% chance of hosting the Sectional.  Seems like zero flights would win out over one flight.

Thinking of a potential Sectional that is:
- Nebraska Wesleyan
- Guilford (Guilford hosts Wittenberg tonight)
- UW-Oshkosh
- North Central

There is no zero flight option.  NCC is the only location that requires just one flight.  Nebraska Wesleyan and UW-Oshkosh would require two flights, and obviously Guilford has no chance (three flights).  So in this scenario, I think NCC would be almost a lock to host.

If NCC wins tonight, the Cards have a really good chance to host the Sectional.

[Titan Q]

Thinking of a Sectional that is:
- Augustana
- Wooster
- Marietta
- Baldwin Wallace

Wooster (500.0) and Marietta (603.0) can't bus to Rock Island.  I'm told the mileage cutoff is -- 499.9 bus, 500.0 flight. Baldwin Wallace (486.0) can. 

Baldwin Wallace is a zero flight option here.  Two flights vs zero would be a no-brainer.

Thinking of a Sectional that is:
- Augustana
- Wheaton
- Marietta
- Baldwin Wallace

Wheaton is three miles too far west to be a zero flight option - Marietta (502.0) can't bus to Wheaton.

But, again, Baldwin Wallace is a zero flight option.  Would top four overall seed Augustana be shipped to Baldwin Wallace to save one flight? Maybe.

Thinking of a Sectional that is:
- Augustana
- Wooster
- Marietta
- Oswego State (they host Baldwin Wallace tonight)

Augie would be two flights (Oswego State, Marietta)...Marietta and Oswego State would be just one flight (Augie).  I think Oswego State is a higher overall seed than Marietta...but that is close.

So Augustana does have some challenges in terms of hosting the Sectional, in that either winner of Oswego State vs Baldwin Wallace pulls the pod way east.

Here is the one Augie hosts for sure:
- Augustana
- Wheaton
- Marietta
- Oswego State

Two flights either way you slice it...highest seed (Augustana) wins.

When we know the four teams tonight, it will be easier to break down.

Official NCAA mileage calculator - https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles.

[Titan Q]

Anyone know what the bus/flight cutoff is?  Is 500.0 a bus or flight?

[GoPerry]

Here is the one Augie hosts for sure:
- Augustana
- Wheaton
- Marietta
- Oswego State

Marietta (502.0) can't bus to Wheaton.

Two flights either way you slice it...highest seed (Augustana) wins.

Or let Wheaton host this one and make Marietta leave from the Shoney's out by the interstate - saves the 2 miles . . .

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

You should remember, though, if it's Wooster to Augie or Augie to Wooster, the teams probably will choose to bus anyway.  Wooster has driven it before and busing to and from the airport isn't going to save you much time or effort.  You have to budget for a flight, and pay for it if they ask, but those chances aren't real high.  You can probably bus faster than flying, when you figure in all the time that goes with getting to an airport and on a plane.

[Titan Q]

You should remember, though, if it's Wooster to Augie or Augie to Wooster, the teams probably will choose to bus anyway.  Wooster has driven it before and busing to and from the airport isn't going to save you much time or effort.  You have to budget for a flight, and pay for it if they ask, but those chances aren't real high.  You can probably bus faster than flying, when you figure in all the time that goes with getting to an airport and on a plane.

Well yes, but that doesn't factor into the committee's Sectional decision.  They don't go to Wooster before the decision and say, "Hey, would you mind busing to Rock Island so we can put the Sectional there?"

The hosting decision is made on the rules (500+ is a flight) and then each team decides after that how they actually want to travel.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

You should remember, though, if it's Wooster to Augie or Augie to Wooster, the teams probably will choose to bus anyway.  Wooster has driven it before and busing to and from the airport isn't going to save you much time or effort.  You have to budget for a flight, and pay for it if they ask, but those chances aren't real high.  You can probably bus faster than flying, when you figure in all the time that goes with getting to an airport and on a plane.

Well yes, but that doesn't factor into the committee's Sectional decision.  They don't go to Wooster before the decision and say, "Hey, would you mind busing to Rock Island so we can put the Sectional there?"

The hosting decision is made on the rules (500+ is a flight) and then each team decides after that how they actually want to travel.

Exactly, I'm just saying, if it's a flight either way, the chances of it getting cashed in are pretty low - and they certainly must have known that when they set this up.  If we end up with a school in between, then it's all moot anyway.

[augie77]

The software package shows the distance between Augustana and Wooster as 500 miles, which by definition requires a flight.  Mileages are rounded to whole numbers.  Might there be a more nuanced version of this program that would give a more precise mileage.  The true mileage might be 500.4 (flight), but it could just as easily be 499.6 (bus).

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

The software package shows the distance between Augustana and Wooster as 500 miles, which by definition requires a flight.  Mileages are rounded to whole numbers.  Might there be a more nuanced version of this program that would give a more precise mileage.  The true mileage might be 500.4 (flight), but it could just as easily be 499.6 (bus).

The official mileage software goes to tenths of a mile - https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles