MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[AndOne]

In last night's game vs. North Park, North Central senior Aiden Chang set a new all-time Cardinal career record by playing in his 113th game. Many of you, particularly those favoring orange and blue, will recall the devastating injury Aiden sustained last year at Wheaton when he suffered 2 separate breaks to his lower leg and ankle plus ligament/tendon damage. The extent of his injury necessitated surgery with insertion of hardware followed by months of recovery and rehab.

It might be easy to dismiss this achievement due to the fact that Aiden is now playing in his fifth year of competition as opposed to a standard four year career. However, what merits recognition and applause in his case is what Aiden had to endure, both in agony on the floor that night in King Arena, and throughout his surgery and many months of rehab, is his determination to overcome his injuries and return to the game he loves. 

At the D3 level, where athletes receive no scholarship monies to support their efforts and the investment of time required to participate, Aiden's determination to overcome his injuries and return to the hardwood is the perfect manifestation of the D3 principle of playing for the love of the game. That principle being the foundation of this site and these pages on which we celebrate the D3 philosophy and both applaud and smite each other for reasons that are sometimes obvious, and sometimes known only to the poster.

At any rate, congrats Aiden. 🏀 👍

[Pat Coleman]

You have such a great tribute to Aiden, but then you finish it by complaining about karma? 

[Titan Q]

An update on how I see Pool C at this point - http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4232.msg1975650#msg1975650.

[AndOne]

You have such a great tribute to Aiden, but then you finish it by complaining about karma? 

If I had only mentioned the smiting aspect then you could well take it as complaining.
However, my point in mentioning both the positive (applause) as well as the negative possibilities was to encompass the entire posting experience beginning with the opportunity to comment on D3 related news/items followed by a reader's opportunity to either effectively reward or punish the poster depending on their viewpoint/position regarding the post. Also, as I mentioned, I don't think you can deny that there is often no rhyme or reason as to why a certain post might elicit a positive, negative, or no response at all.

In this case, I wonder why you chose to focus on the one and only sentence merely mentioning the possibility of a negative response to an overall positive post rather than the main point of the post as a whole. Your comment only reinforces the fact that some people derive pleasure from turning a positive into something negative.

[Gregory Sager]

In last night's game vs. North Park, North Central senior Aiden Chang set a new all-time Cardinal career record by playing in his 113th game. Many of you, particularly those favoring orange and blue, will recall the devastating injury Aiden sustained last year at Wheaton when he suffered 2 separate breaks to his lower leg and ankle plus ligament/tendon damage. The extent of his injury necessitated surgery with insertion of hardware followed by months of recovery and rehab.

It might be easy to dismiss this achievement due to the fact that Aiden is now playing in his fifth year of competition as opposed to a standard four year career. However, what merits recognition and applause in his case is what Aiden had to endure, both in agony on the floor that night in King Arena, and throughout his surgery and many months of rehab, is his determination to overcome his injuries and return to the game he loves. 

At the D3 level, where athletes receive no scholarship monies to support their efforts and the investment of time required to participate, Aiden's determination to overcome his injuries and return to the hardwood is the perfect manifestation of the D3 principle of playing for the love of the game. That principle being the foundation of this site and these pages on which we celebrate the D3 philosophy and both applaud and smite each other for reasons that are sometimes obvious, and sometimes known only to the poster.

At any rate, congrats Aiden. 🏀 👍

Karma sentiments aside, that was a well-written tribute to both Aiden and to D3 student-athletes in general. Thanks for posting it, Mark.

[AndOne]

Thanks. I was happy to do so.
I only mentioned the Karma factor because it seems like no matter how positive some posts are, or are intended to be, it seems like some people want to demean the post itself, the poster, or both. Sad. 

[Gregory Sager]

I don't disagree with you about the karma issue. I just think that mentioning it in the same post as your tribute to Aiden and to D3 student-athletes in general sidetracks the reader from the main point. Personally, I would've stuck to focusing upon the players rather than throwing in the bit at the end about posters. But, as the song says, you do you, let me do me.

[AndOne]

You're probably right.
Is that the same song that says lovers gonna love, haters gonna hate? 

[Gregory Sager]

Nope.

[bbfan44]

Nope.

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[AndOne]

Moving on.....................

To the subject of Pool C;

I realize it may well not be true in all cases, but generally, isn't to true that, absent of winning an AQ, a team is not likely to be a Pool C selection without amassing a winning percentage of at least .700??

If so, it seems like a minimal 18-7 regular season record plus going 1-1 in the conference tourney would be necessary for selection. The key being to get to a minimum of 19 wins out of 27 games.
A 18-7 regular season would be .720 but a first round loss in the conference tourney and a final record of 18-8 would drop that to .692 likely dashing any hope of Pool C selection. A 1-1 outcome in the CCIW tourney, or 19-8 overall, works out to .704 keeping, likely slim, hopes alive.

If the above proves out, it seems both Wheaton and Carthage, with 7 current losses, need to run the table plus pick up another win in the CCIW tourney.
With 6 losses IWU can only afford one more loss (5-1) the rest of the way before picking up a first round conference tournament win.
Augie also has 6 losses, but only has 5 games left. They then need to go 4-1 plus one.
At 16-4, NCC, also with 5 left, needs a 2-3 mark down the stretch plus one.
Apparent shoo-in Elmhurst needs only to go 1-4 the rest of the way plus the one required CCIW tourney win to have a minimal chance of Pool C.

Again, these would be minimal requirements for any possibility of National Tournament selection.
Or, am I missing something?

[Mr. Ypsi]

New poll is up - down week for the CCIW.  Elmhurst falls from 4 to 8, NCC falls from 13 to 17, Augie loses 3 pts, retaining 6.  Only bright spot was IWU receiving votes for the first time in several weeks, netting 5 points.

[Pat Coleman]

In this case, I wonder why you chose to focus on the one and only sentence merely mentioning the possibility of a negative response to an overall positive post rather than the main point of the post as a whole. Your comment only reinforces the fact that some people derive pleasure from turning a positive into something negative.

Wouldn't have been any possibility of it being something negative without you bringing up the possibility of it being something negative.

[Titan Q]

To the subject of Pool C;

I realize it may well not be true in all cases, but generally, isn't to true that, absent of winning an AQ, a team is not likely to be a Pool C selection without amassing a winning percentage of at least .700??

There are usually a couple sub-.700 winning percentage teams picked for Pool C.

2018-19 Season
1. (C) Augustana: .889, 24-3/.547/8-3
2. (S) Randolph-Macon: .893, 25-3/.534/6-3
3. (NE) Hamilton: .885, 23-3/.553/4-3
4. (NE) Williams: .769, 20-6/.598/6-5
5. (C) UW-Oshkosh: .885, 23-3/.542/3-3
6. (W) Loras: .778, 21-6/.587/2-2
7. (GL) Marietta: .769, 20-6/.549/6-4
8. (MA) York (Pa.): .750, 21-7/.561/6-4
9. (W) St. Thomas: .846, 22-4/.532/4-1
10. (GL) Wooster: .821, 23-5/.543/3-4
11. (E) Rochester: .800, 20-5/.539/5-2
12. (GL) Capital: .741, 20-7/.546/6-4
13. (E) Plattsburgh State: .760, 19-6/.531/6-6
14. (AT) New Jersey City: .741, 20-7/.551/6-6
15. (NE) MIT: .846, 22-4/.555/1-0
16. (NE) Middlebury: .708, 17-7/.600/4-5
17. (MA) Salisbury: .704, 19-8/.575/4-7
18. (C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.574/4-5
19. (AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
20. (C) UW-La Crosse .654, 17-9/.574/4-4

2017-18 Season
1. Hamilton (NE/NESCAC): .846 (22-4)/.573/6-3 
2. Wesleyan (NE/NESCAC): .778 (21-6)/.590/8-4   
3. UW-Platteville (CE/WIAC: .833 (20-4)/.577/4-1   
4. Whitman (WE/NWC): .962 (25-1)/.515/4-1
5. Swarthmore (MA/CC): .815 (22-5)/.542/3-4   
6. St. John's (WE/MIAC): .880 (22-3)/.524/3-2 
7. Middlebury (NE/NESCAC): .760 (19-6).590/4-6   
8. Wooster (GL/NCAC): .778 (21-6)/.565/4-3
9. Marietta (GL/OAC): .778 (21-6)/.564/4-5   
10. New Jersey City (AT/NJAC): .731 (19-7)/.567/6-4   
11. Emory (SO/UAA): .840 (21-4)/.530/4-2 
12. Christopher Newport (MA/CAC): .777 (21-6)/.546/3-2   
13. UW-Oshkosh (CE/WIAC): .741 (20-7)/.554/2-4   
14. St. Olaf (WE/MIAC): .731 (19-7)/.544/3-2   
15. Albright (MA/Commonwealth): .769 (20-6)/.544/3-2   
16. Franklin and Marshall (MA/CC): .769 (20-6)/.536/3-4 
17. North Central (CE/CCIW): .692 (18-8)/.563/4-5   
18. Illinois Wesleyan (CE/CCIW): .731 (19-7)/.550/3-6 
19. Springfield (NE/NEWMAC): .692 (18-8)/.558/4-2 
20. Brockport (E/SUNYAC): .731/.529/3-3
21. LeTourneau (SO/ASC): .852 (23-4)/.511/2-2

2016-17 Season
1. Babson (NE/NEWMAC): .926/.574/4-1
2. Williams (NE/NESCAC): .731/.592/7-4   
3. Susquehanna (MA/LAND): .800/.556/4-4
4. UW-Whitewater (C/WIAC): .769/.567/3-5
5. Rochester (E/UAA): .840/.534/4-2
6. Amherst (NE/NESCAC): .708/.598/5-5
7. Tufts (NE/NESCAC): .769/.566/4-4
8. Wesleyan (NE/NESCAC): .760/.560/4-3
9. Whitworth (W/NWC): .852/.544/0-3
10. Salisbury (MA/CAC): .741/.546/3-4
11. New Jersey City (AT/NJAC): .750/.533/5-4
12. Hope (GL/MIAA): .800/.525/2-1
13. Cabrini (AT/CSAC): .760/.531/2-3
14. Emory (S/UAA): .720/.547/2-3
15. Skidmore (E/LL): .731/.527/6-1
16. St. Lawrence (E/LL): .769/.526/3-5
17. Augustana (C/CCIW): .704/.542/2-2
18. Keene State (NE/LEC): .679/.575/3-4
19. Endicott (NE/CCC): .786/.532/1-1
20. St. Thomas (W/MIAC): .731/.530/1-2
21. UW-Oshkosh: (C/WIAC): .630/.601/5-6

[bbfan44]

New poll is up - down week for the CCIW.  Elmhurst falls from 4 to 8, NCC falls from 13 to 17, Augie loses 3 pts, retaining 6.  Only bright spot was IWU receiving votes for the first time in several weeks, netting 5 points.

Ya lose on a buzzer beater on the road to an ORV team and you're knocked down four spots.  Life is rough.