MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Or what if there's a three-way or four-way tie?  If head-to-head results and best record against #3, #4 (and so on) still result in a deadlock, then what are the remaining tiebreakers?

I'm sure Bob knows, but it appears the conference handbook that spells all this out is likely behind an administrative login on the CCIW website.

[Gregory Sager]

If those two teams happen to tie for first place... which team would host the tournament?

Or what if there's a three-way or four-way tie?  If head-to-head results and best record against #3, #4 (and so on) still result in a deadlock, then what are the remaining tiebreakers?

As Ryan said, the tiebreaker formula is now behind an administrative wall on the CCIW website. But we've posted it on CCIW Chat countless times over the years. Here it is:

Men's & Women's Basketball
Seeding will be determined by regular season finish. Ties are broken by the following:

1. Head-to-head competition.
2. Record against team(s) above the tie beginning with the highest ranked team.
3. Record vs. team or teams in 3 rd place. If still tied, go to the next place for determination, et cetera.
4. Road record against conference schools.
5. Record in their last seven conference games.
6. The point spread of the tied teams' head-to head competition.
7. Coin toss

(I've bookmarked it in the past, since this comes up so many times.)

[Peter Nicholson]

The not-so-secret tie-breaker formula has been modified slightly this year:

Item 3 in Greg's list now reads "below the tie" instead of "in 3rd place"
Item 5 now reads "in their last eight conference games (reflecting the change to a 16-game schedule)

Sources:  CCIW Basketball Sports Guides (2019 editions)

The Women's Guide also includes an example of how to determine "head to head" records when more than two teams are tied.

[Titan Q]

Big Blue broadcast crew breaks down Matt Leritz's mustache and it's impact on his ability to get the girls -  https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1225418540964044801?s=20.


MU broadcast crew explains the "bad team" officiating theory - https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1225421850488033280?s=20.

[bbfan44]

url="https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1225421850488033280?s=20."]https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1225421850488033280?s=20.[/url]

Can't disagree.  I also believe an All American player gets the benefit, and the big maybe a bit slow center suffers the refs bias...
I know...the refs do their best, you'll say.  But they're at the D3 level just like the players...which means that they're a step slow and an inch or two short in their ability to call a game.
Not looking for an argument... I'm firmly convinced.

[Gregory Sager]

It wouldn't be a school year on d3boards.com without someone griping about Aric Lee, the WSOY broadcaster who does PBP for Millikin sports. I've done it myself. Two years ago an NPU wide receiver named Micah Lowe went up for a pass against the Big Blue at Lindsay Field, got drilled in the lower thigh, spun in mid-air, and came down hard on the same leg. He was down on the turf for a good ten minutes before the stretcher came out and carted him off to the ambulance. His leg was broken and his knee was wrecked, ending his football career.

While Lowe was lying motionless on the turf being tended to by NPU and Millikin training staff, Aric Lee was riffing on the air about how the Big Blue cornerback was just doing his job in responding to the suggestion implied by the Vikings receiver's name by hitting Micah "Lowe", as though this was the right time to be joking and making clever puns about the kid's name. It was disgusting, and I went off about it on the CCIW football board.

Big Blue broadcast crew breaks down Matt Leritz's mustache and it's impact on his ability to get the girls -  https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1225418540964044801?s=20.


MU broadcast crew explains the "bad team" officiating theory - https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1225421850488033280?s=20.

The question is, Bob, why aren't you directing your ire at the source? On Twitter the night before your tweets, Aric Lee gave vent to those same sentiments about there being an anti-Millikin officiating bias:

https://twitter.com/ESPN_Aric/status/1225276799183183872?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Gregory Sager]

The not-so-secret tie-breaker formula has been modified slightly this year:

Item 3 in Greg's list now reads "below the tie" instead of "in 3rd place"
Item 5 now reads "in their last eight conference games (reflecting the change to a 16-game schedule)

Sources:  CCIW Basketball Sports Guides (2019 editions)

The Women's Guide also includes an example of how to determine "head to head" records when more than two teams are tied.

Thanks for the updates, Peter. I've changed my bookmarks accordingly.

[Ultimate Titan Fan]

Big Blue broadcast crew breaks down Matt Leritz's mustache and it's impact on his ability to get the girls -  https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1225418540964044801?s=20.


MU broadcast crew explains the "bad team" officiating theory - https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1225421850488033280?s=20.

Yeah, both those comments were eye rollers.

[Titan Q]

Illinois Wesleyan (14-6, 8-3) vs Augustana (15-6, 9-3), Sat. 2/8, 7:00pm...

Illinois Wesleyan (14-6, 8-3)
G - Luke Yoder, 6-0/170 Fr.  10.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.2 apg
G - Keondre Schumacher, 5-11/175 So.  12.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 2.1 apg
G - Pete Lambesis, 6-4/195 So.  12.1 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.8 apg
F - Doug Wallen, 6-5/210 Jr.  10.6 ppg, 6.1 rpg
F - Charlie Bair, 6-7/220 Jr.  8.7 ppg, 8.9 rpg
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F - Matt Leritz, 6-7/235 So.   7.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg
G - Cory Noe, 6-2/175 So.  7.2 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.5 apg


Augustana (15-6, 9-3)
G - Jack Jelen, 5-10/176 Jr.  4.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 3.9 apg
G - Austin Elledge, 6-0/167 Sr.  13.9 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.2 apg
G - Lucas Simon, 6-5/173 Sr. 6.0 ppg, 3.6 ppg, 2.3 apg
F - Pierson Wofford, 6-3/198 Sr.  16.9 ppg, 6.8 rpg
C - Micah Martin, 6-11/242 Sr.  13.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg
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F - Jacob Pauley, 6-4/178 Jr. 5.2 ppg, 2.1 rpg
F - Justin Bottorff, 6-6/202 So.  3.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg

Links
IWU Notes - https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/iwusports.com/documents/2020/2/6/Game21_Augustana_mbb2.pdf

Pantagraph - https://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-wesleyan/illinois-wesleyan-basketball-awaits-augustana-for-crucial-cciw-contest/article_29ae87f9-ac23-53e3-8d03-562f78115ddd.html

WEXG Radio - http://radio.securenetsystems.net/v5/WWHP

Video - https://portal.stretchinternet.com/iwu/

Live stats - https://www.iwusports.com/sidearmstats/mbball/summary

D3 Championship Belt - http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5070.2295

[Titan Q]

Jase Bergschneider @jase_bergy
I'm proud to announce my commitment to Elmhurst for next 4 years! A huge thanks to @baines_john and @PeytonWyatt for making this possible!
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* Jase Bergschneider, 6-0 PG (Taylorville HS)

[Gregory Sager]

Ken's HAL-9000 foresees a road sweep in the CCIW today:

Augustana 77, @ Illinois Wesleyan 72 (AC 66%, IWU 34%)
Carthage 79, @ Millikin 69 (CC 81%, MU19%)
Elmhurst 77, @ North Central 75 (EC 55%, NCC 45%)
Wheaton 77, @ North Park 60 (WC 93%, NPU 7%)

[Titan Q]

Scott Burgess @scottybscout
Althoff 2020 SF Daulton Burgner @daultonburgn has committed to #Elmhurst! Tough & skilled forward will be a great fit at that level! @jbarrington85 @ILBearsBball
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* Daulton Burgner, 6-5 G/F (Belleville Althoff HS)

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10506060/5de471cd2347d80fa4b23528

[Mr. Ypsi]

At the half, Augie 41, IWU 39.  A VERY different game than the one they played in Rock Island!

[voxelmhurst]

Unless Elmhurst can reverse a 19 point halftime deficit on the road at North Central, they are set to lose for the 3rd time in their last 4 games. Have they flown too close to the sun?

[Gregory Sager]

Wheaton 88
North Park 69

Toby Marek: 33 pts (5-6 trey)
Karl Polk, Jr.: 15 pts
Matt Szuba: 10 rebs, 4 blks
Izaiah Sanders: 10 rebs

Tyson Cruickshank: 22 pts, 11 rebs, 3 stls
Nyameye Adom: 22 pts, 6:0 a:to
Anajuwon Spencer: 22 pts (6-8 trey)
Cade Alioth: 9 rebs
Luke Anthony: 4:0 a:to

Toby Marek set a new personal scoring high tonight for his career. It's his second 30-plus game in two weeks.