MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Greek Tragedy]

"...another line change for North Park..."

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

40 minutes of hell doesn't use a lot of subs, just 6-8 REALLY well conditioned players.

[Greek Tragedy]

I do remember and enjoyed those Razorbacks games. However, I was a big Runnin' Rebel fan.

[Gregory Sager]

40 minutes of hell doesn't use a lot of subs, just 6-8 REALLY well conditioned players.

... and that's exactly why I used the qualifier "like", because I know that part of Sean Smith's strategy is to play a deep rotation.

I don't know anything but the broad particulars of what Sean is going to do, nor would I share them with this board in the preseason if I did know his X's and O's. All I do know, because Sean has reiterated this to me in order to set the record straight, is that he is not going to employ Grinnell's Arseneault System, or any modification of it such as what George Barber employs at Greenville or what Michelle Roof used to have with the North Central women's team. I don't even know if Sean is going to use line changes or not.

Honestly, guys, if you listen to Bob Quillman's excellent interview of Sean back in May on YouTube, particularly the interval at about the 32:00 mark, you'll know everything that Sean has disclosed thus far in terms of the style of basketball that the Vikings are going to play under him (aside from the size of the rotation he wants to use) ... including the fact that NPU is not going to use the Arseneault System.

[markerickson]

NPU will definitely not employ The System due to a severe shortage of guys who will hit the trey.  Gabe Johnson, last year's "sharpshooter," is not on the roster, and none of the returnees demonstrated proficiency.  Jalen Boyd (18-63/.286) is the top returnee to rely upon to hit a trey.

[Gregory Sager]

NPU will definitely not employ The System due to a severe shortage of guys who will hit the trey.

Incorrect, Mark. Sean Smith will definitely not employ the System due to the fact that Sean Smith does not want to employ the System. Nothing more, nothing less. Sean could recruit four or five guys who could stroke it at a .400 clip from beyond the arc against CCIW competition, and I'm pretty certain that he still wouldn't use the Arseneault System. I know a David Arseneault acolyte when I see one, and Sean's not a David Arseneault acolyte. (I carry around a mental image of George Barber sitting at his desk thumbing through his well-worn, leather-bound, red-letter edition of Arseneault's Basketball: The Running Game that he keeps on his office bookshelf at Greenville, right next to his Bible. )

https://athletics.northpark.edu/sports/mens-basketball/roster  Gabe Johnson, last year's "sharpshooter," is not on the roster, and none of the returnees demonstrated proficiency.  Jalen Boyd (18-63/.286) is the top returnee to rely upon to hit a trey.

I've made comments a couple of times already to Sean about NPU's shooting woes, including mentioning the facts that both the top shooter, Jonathan Johansson, and most prolific shooter, Gabe Johnson, from last season's Vikings are gone. Sean is too polite to reply, "Tell me something I don't already know," whenever I state something that is blindingly obvious to him as the head coach. If there is anybody on this planet who eats, sleeps, and breathes the fact that the North Park University men's basketball team needs to dramatically improve how well it shoots the basketball, it's Sean Smith.

[lmitzel]

News out of Naperville today as NCC assistant Dijon Knight took a role as an assistant at Anderson (also their head men's golf coach).

Anderson got a good one.

[Gregory Sager]

News out of Naperville today as NCC assistant Dijon Knight took a role as an assistant at Anderson (also their head men's golf coach).

Anderson got a good one.

It just seems weird and sad that Owen Handy (who, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, was a CCIW Chat poster under the moniker "Norman Dale" while a Wheaton undergrad) is no longer the guy running the Anderson men's basketball program.

[Gregory Sager]

The CCIW athletic administrators made a decision over the past few days to require a two-and-a-half-hour gap between start times when there is a basketball doubleheader. For example, a 2 pm start must now be followed by a start no earlier than 4:15 pm, and a 5 pm start must be followed by a start no earlier than 7:15 pm. This will obviously have a greater effect upon men's basketball start times than women's basketball start times.

[lmitzel]

The CCIW athletic administrators made a decision over the past few days to require a two-and-a-half-hour gap between start times when there is a basketball doubleheader. For example, a 2 pm start must now be followed by a start no earlier than 4:15 pm, and a 5 pm start must be followed by a start no earlier than 7:15 pm. This will obviously have a greater effect upon men's basketball start times than women's basketball start times.

I don't know about elsewhere, but I feel like at the hangar we're usually not hitting a 7pm tip in the second game of a doubleheader anyway (I can't remember what we've usually set our warmup time to, if it's been 20 or 30 minutes).

Gives me more time to eat/do last minute prep between games, I suppose.

[Gregory Sager]

Yeah, speaking as another game-staff worker, I'm all for it for the same reason.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Interesting decision.  If I think back on MIAA games, I think I recall witnessing too much time between games (players probably don't mind the extra shoot-around time) as often as I've seen second games starting late. 

Also, a question: Wouldn't a two-and-a-half-hour gap mean a 2pm start must be followed by a 5:30pm start?

[Gregory Sager]

Interesting decision.  If I think back on MIAA games, I think I recall witnessing too much time between games as often as I've seen second games starting late. 

That might be specifically a reflection of your Hope perspective, FDF, because I'm guessing that the Dutch have a lot more crossover in their men's and women's fan bases than is typical of CCIW teams. If you're sitting in the stands for both games, "too much time between games" can definitely be a thing, as opposed to just showing up to watch one game or the other.

Also, a question: Wouldn't a two-and-a-half-hour gap mean a 2pm start must be followed by a 5:30pm start?

Only if you're playing the first half of the doubleheader in Illinois and the second half of the doubleheader in Michigan.

[kiko]

The CCIW athletic administrators made a decision over the past few days to require a two-and-a-half-hour gap between start times when there is a basketball doubleheader. For example, a 2 pm start must now be followed by a start no earlier than 4:15 pm, and a 5 pm start must be followed by a start no earlier than 7:15 pm. This will obviously have a greater effect upon men's basketball start times than women's basketball start times.

Clarifying question: do you mean this has a greater effect on the scheduled start time for the men's games, or on the actual start time?

When I read this, I assumed that the scheduled start for the early game would be moved up, but I'm just making that up and spreading scandalous rumors on the internet.

[Gregory Sager]

Heh. Admittedly, it's probably the former and not the latter.